I honestly can't imagine anybody walking into an electronics store, playing with the Xoom and the iPad 2 side-by-side, and deciding they would rather pay $100 more and get the Xoom.
Good luck, Motorola.
Xoom and other Honeycomb tablets need to be sold at $300 or less if they want to have any chance against iPad2.
Not going to happen when the Xoom costs $300 to manufacturer.
The result would be the same as the current generation of Android tablet, complete shit user experience.
Reviewers are saying that Honeycomb is awesome. Only problem being it's buggy.
Also, competitors don't need to be sold for $300 to compete. All they have to be is similar in price which they are not which is their biggest problem.
I was replying to the comment that Android needs to be on $300 hardware.
We have seen how Android 2 runs on the imports from China, like crap.
Anything that runs on low end hardware will run like crap.
I was simply pointing out that the $300 price point (for any tablet) is an unachievable goal (at this point) without having a shitty user experience.
So we wait. This is like Windows Vista. While Vista and 7 are practically identical, Vista was introduced in a time when hardware wasn't good enough. Top notch hardware cut it, but those budget $600 laptops? No way. Here's what you have. Wait for quad, and maybe then Honeycomb will run fine.
Google won't tweak the OS to run right. We'll just have to wait. Kinda like how it is for phones now. 2.3 isn't really faster than 2.0. It's the brute force upgrading of hardware that made Android fast enough.
Indeed.
I went to Best Buy today and played with both the IP2 and Xoom. Price difference aside, I'd still pick the iPad to be honest. I was really excited to play with an Android tablet too, but it just felt unfinished. Maybe next revision.
Of course 2.3 is faster than 2.0, with 2.2 they introduced a bunch of stuff to make it faster like JIT and Javascript improvements. 2.2 is a ton faster than everything before it and 2.3 has more optimizations but 2.2 had the biggest speed impact.
In synthetic benchmarks yes, but not in day to day usability.
We have seen how Android 2 runs on the imports from China, like crap.
This 'its not Apple, therefore its crap' attitude needs to stop. Froyo as a tablet OS runs extremely well. Honeycomb may be 'optimized' for tablets, but Froyo and Gingerbread aren't crap as you claim. Just because its not a carbon copy of iOS does not mean its crap.
Well that's a lie.
There is a noticeable speed difference on my Droid1 using 2.2 compared to 2.0.
Where did I say that if it isn't Apple its crap?
Stop putting words in my mouth.
The Xoom has perfectly fine hardware, but you won't be able to get that hardware for $300 or less because that is how much the thing costs to manufacturer.
My response was relating to the claim that Honeycomb needs to be put on sub $300 tablets and that will never happen because people wont buy it. People are not buying Gingerbread tablets on sub $300 hardware right now because IT RUNS LIKE CRAP.
That doesn't mean Android is crap as you would like to think I said.
I have a 2.1 ROM that I've been using up til November on my MIlestone. No JIT. The 2.2 CyanogenMod wasn't much faster at all. In fact it was really the same. IT was more about the features CM6 brought that made me switch.
Are you talking stock ROMs?
I have a 2.1 ROM that I've been using up til November on my MIlestone. No JIT. The 2.2 CyanogenMod wasn't much faster at all. In fact it was really the same. IT was more about the features CM6 brought that made me switch.
Are you talking stock ROMs?
On a side note though, give the guys over at XDA a couple of months with the Xoom and it'll be the best thing on the market. If the price combs down, it'll be much more attractive.
Where did I say that if it isn't Apple its crap?
Stop putting words in my mouth.
The Xoom has perfectly fine hardware, but you won't be able to get that hardware for $300 or less because that is how much the thing costs to manufacturer.
My response was relating to the claim that Honeycomb needs to be put on sub $300 tablets and that will never happen because people wont buy it. People are not buying Gingerbread tablets on sub $300 hardware right now because IT RUNS LIKE CRAP.
That doesn't mean Android is crap as you would like to think I said.
Gingerbread (CM7) runs fine on my $200 NC.
And that uses an ancient SOC from Droid 1. Modern mid range SOC's are perfectly fine for running GB or HC.
The Nook Color is a loss leader.
Try again.
Loss leader??? Are you going on with this stuff again saying that because no one makes the margins that Apple does, that means they suck?
At $300 it wouldn't be a loss leader and they could sell it with Gingerbread pre-installed.The Nook Color is a loss leader AND you have to hack it.
Try again.