WI governer blocking pro union websites?

drebo

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Pretty sure that an employer can block whatever websites he wants. People shouldn't be looking at that tripe while at work anyway.

They didn't take the website down at the source. That's the only way it'd be a first amendment violation. Blocking employees or freeloaders (public wifi) from seeing it is not.
 

XZeroII

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"The Department of Administration blocks all new websites shortly after they are created, until they go through a software approval program that unblocks them," Werwie said. "Within 30 minutes of being notified this website was blocked, DOA circumvented the software and immediately made the website accessible."


This thread can now go away. Nice try spreading your FUD.
 

nageov3t

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I'm definitely not on the "yay censorship" train, but I don't think restricting access to a website on one particular wifi network that basically services a business is something to get up in arms over, regardless of the motives.

yes, the wireless network had guest accounts enabled, but it's not like it's a public wifi like some cities have.
 

Lemon law

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This whole Wisconsin Gov. Walker issue may have national legs.

Its simply the golden rule again, those that have the gold make the rules.

The fact is and remains, the foundation of American progress and prosperity was laid under American Labor Unions. When that ole 1930 ditty was laid down, what side are you on, what side are you on, in Harlan county, there are no neutrals there, you are either a Union man or a thug for J.H Blair.

Sadly, as Unions gained prosperity, they forgot the power of solidarity, and to some extent Wisconsin may help Unions regain that memory.

The American economy is sick from the power of the golden rule, only a few very rich are gaining at the expense of everyone else. Even the semi rich are falling behind, as Wisconsin, thanks to Kosh brothers donations seek to balance a falling tide in the American economy, by trying to blame only the Wisconsin government worker.

To some extent, another Republirat Pete Wilson genius move on the California scale.

I predict a come back of the American Union movement.
 

manimal

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Who do you think brought you the 40 hour work week? Medical Benefits payed by employer? Unemployment insurance?


All things pioneered by Unions..


There will always be extremes in anything, Judging unions by their extremes is too one dimensional and very simplistic...
 

nageov3t

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Who do you think brought you the 40 hour work week? Medical Benefits payed by employer? Unemployment insurance?


All things pioneered by Unions..


There will always be extremes in anything, Judging unions by their extremes is too one dimensional and very simplistic...
what does any of that have to do with a wifi network blocking a website?
 

Lithium381

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I'm not sure why it's a problem that they're browsing the web while at work? The government is paying them right? .....so taxes are paying for it. . . .what is the problem?
 

tk149

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In a move taken straight from totalitarian dictators playbooks WI is blocking pro union websites in the state capital


http://www.cnn.com/2011/US/02/22/wisconsin.budget/index.html?hpt=T2

This was already discussed in the other thread.

From your own link:

"The Department of Administration blocks all new websites shortly after they are created, until they go through a software approval program that unblocks them," Werwie said. "Within 30 minutes of being notified this website was blocked, DOA circumvented the software and immediately made the website accessible."

Try putting less tinfoil on your hat.

 

101mpg

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zomg teh republicans are censoring the internets just like egypt!!!! mah first amenmant rites!!

I think you spend too much time in r/politics
 

Jaskalas

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Pretty sure that an employer can block whatever websites he wants. People shouldn't be looking at that tripe while at work anyway.

They didn't take the website down at the source. That's the only way it'd be a first amendment violation. Blocking employees or freeloaders (public wifi) from seeing it is not.

State government is an employer, but it's a public employer that serves the people. You should beware any government censorship, we're not talking a private company.
 

Thump553

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I'm not sure why it's a problem that they're browsing the web while at work? The government is paying them right? .....so taxes are paying for it. . . .what is the problem?

Was not a matter of blocking people browsing at work-the labor union site was blocked on this publically funded wifi network so that no one, including the public in the Capitol, could access it. That raises very disturbing questions.

If the WI Administration's explanation turns out to be correct (universal policy of blocking new websites for a short time pending review) I agree it is a nonissue. Otherwise it is extremely disturbing that any government in the USA would censor for political speech.
 

drebo

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Was not a matter of blocking people browsing at work-the labor union site was blocked on this publically funded wifi network so that no one, including the public in the Capitol, could access it. That raises very disturbing questions.

If the WI Administration's explanation turns out to be correct (universal policy of blocking new websites for a short time pending review) I agree it is a nonissue. Otherwise it is extremely disturbing that any government in the USA would censor for political speech.

Publicly funded or not, it a managed service which the providers can manage however they want. They can block porn, job websites, or whatever else they want.

It's not a free speech issue unless they are blocking the speaking party.
 

spidey07

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Was not a matter of blocking people browsing at work-the labor union site was blocked on this publically funded wifi network so that no one, including the public in the Capitol, could access it. That raises very disturbing questions.

If the WI Administration's explanation turns out to be correct (universal policy of blocking new websites for a short time pending review) I agree it is a nonissue. Otherwise it is extremely disturbing that any government in the USA would censor for political speech.

Proxy servers normally default to block sites that aren't categorized yet. This is standard procedure and normal operation of them. Otherwise you can bring up a porn site that isn't categorized as porn yet and be accessible, eliminating the purpose of the proxy in the first place.

Take off the tinfoil hat and learn how the technology works.
 
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