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Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Pliablemoose, your suggestion about a stethoscope was a very good one. I'm grumpy cuz I got to go in for an outpatient procedure today to open a valve in my vein.

I have experienced poor nurses first hand. I still stick by my claim that there are many nursing jobs available across the nation. Speaking just for the SW where I live, there has NEVER been an oversupply of nurses.

I'm cranky because the FASFA crap says I can afford to pay 100% of my kid's tuition, and I have a $5600 tab to pay this week

If nurses were paid what they're worth, there would be no shortage. We're subject to an artificially manipulated supply/demand curve.

And good luck :thumbsup:
 

krylon

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Pliablemoose, your suggestion about a stethoscope was a very good one. I'm grumpy cuz I got to go in for an outpatient procedure today to open a valve in my vein.

I have experienced poor nurses first hand. I still stick by my claim that there are many nursing jobs available across the nation. Speaking just for the SW where I live, there has NEVER been an oversupply of nurses.

If nurses were paid what they're worth, there would be no shortage. We're subject to an artificially manipulated supply/demand curve.

And good luck :thumbsup:

Details?
 

Pliablemoose

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Originally posted by: krylon
Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
Pliablemoose, your suggestion about a stethoscope was a very good one. I'm grumpy cuz I got to go in for an outpatient procedure today to open a valve in my vein.

I have experienced poor nurses first hand. I still stick by my claim that there are many nursing jobs available across the nation. Speaking just for the SW where I live, there has NEVER been an oversupply of nurses.

If nurses were paid what they're worth, there would be no shortage. We're subject to an artificially manipulated supply/demand curve.

And good luck :thumbsup:

Details?

WSJ

A health-care network in upstate New York agreed to settle a class-action lawsuit alleging that managers conspired to keep registered nurses' wages artificially low, in a move that could affect other defendants in the case and four related suits across the country.

Northeast Health of Troy, N.Y., agreed to pay $1.25 million in a settlement that is scheduled to be filed Monday in U.S. District Court in the Northern District of New York. The company didn't admit any wrongdoing and called the allegations in the lawsuit "completely false and offensive." About 2,500 nurses are represented in the class, and the settlement is subject to court approval.

"We never conspired with any other hospital to suppress nurse wages, nor did we ever violate the antitrust laws in any manner," the health-care network said in a statement. The network, which has more than 5,000 employees, said it agreed to the settlement in order "to stop spending our scarce resources on this litigation." A spokeswoman declined to comment further.

The suit, brought by two Albany, N.Y., nurses, is one of five related suits filed in 2006, in which nurses alleged that hospitals agreed to enter into a conspiracy to keep nurse wages low and did so by sharing compensation information such as wage surveys.

Heidi Hartmann, president and labor economist at the Institute for Women's Policy Research, said the settlement was significant and could have a spillover effect on the related cases. One company's settling could set a precedent for the other defendants, she said.

Employers do this kind of crap to keep nurses from moving from hospital to hospital looking for better wages and working conditions.
 

KeithP

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Nurse's Week ends today, May 12 (May 6-12) so you owe her something for that as well. However, that may only be for employed nurses so you might be able to get out of that.

-KeithP
 

lupi

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Big bottle of lotion to help with all the pole stretching she'll be doing.
 

BoomerD

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Originally posted by: djheater
I just paid $165 for a personalized stethoscope. Dear Lord....
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meh, she's worth it.

Good job.

IF she likes it...you'll earn lots of brownie points...which can easily be wiped out with one bad "oh shit," but until then, you're good.
 

Mursilis

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
<---Coming up on 30 years anniversary as an RN.

Yeah, the urban myth that nurses can always find a job...

Interesting . . . I always thought that myth was true. So where have you lived/worked? What type of areas tend to have more over-supply? Urban/suburban/rural?
 

ShOcKwAvE827

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Yeah my hospital is looking for a ton of nurses right now. I always thought that nursing was in pretty high demand, its just maybe your practicular area?
 

FleshLight

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My mom was making over $100k as an RN here in Los Angeles before she retired. She wasn't a charge nurse either.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: ShOcKwAvE827
Yeah my hospital is looking for a ton of nurses right now. I always thought that nursing was in pretty high demand, its just maybe your practicular area?

Loyola Health System to Lay Off 440 Nurses

We may be the only area in the country doing it... I can't find good info. Everything you read says it's a great job market, but in the last 8 months it's dried up. Hopefully there will be an upswing.
 

dakels

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
I have no idea what the job prospects are in Chicago but, nursing is in huge demand across the U.S. Congrats to her and I'm amazed she made it out of school without getting a job offer her senior year.

At the hospitals I work in in NYC, the demand for nurses of all kinds is very very high but I think NY has the highest demand for nurses out of any state right now. They get paid pretty well too in this area.
 

krylon

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Originally posted by: djheater
I just paid $165 for a personalized stethoscope. Dear Lord....
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meh, she's worth it.

Let's see those :camera: of her and let us decide that for you.
 

phreaqe

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Originally posted by: djheater
Originally posted by: ShOcKwAvE827
Yeah my hospital is looking for a ton of nurses right now. I always thought that nursing was in pretty high demand, its just maybe your practicular area?

Loyola Health System to Lay Off 440 Nurses

We may be the only area in the country doing it... I can't find good info. Everything you read says it's a great job market, but in the last 8 months it's dried up. Hopefully there will be an upswing.

congrats OP. my wife just graduated this past sunday from nursing school. we live not to far from you up in Milwaukee(actually just a bit west of it, but she is going to work in milwaukee). she was fortunate to find a job, but yah, it is a myth that all nurses are going to find a job. normally most of her class would have a job midway through the last semester. this year 3/4 of the class did not have one at graduation. most of the hospitals she applied to are on hiring freezes. so there may be a nursing shortage, but they are no hiring to fill those spots. good luck to her on her search. she may have to take anything she can to get her foot in the door and then transfer to her desired position later on, that is what my wife is doing.
 

Geekbabe

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It's really hard for GN's to get jobs now, what she should do is begin immediately preparing for her boards, pass and then look for a Med/Surg position.
 

DrPizza

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You said "nurse" - you didn't specify if it was RN or LPN. I may be wrong, but I believe the demand for RN's is greater than the demand for LPN's these days.
:thumbsup: on the engraved stethoscope. Probably the best possible gift for a nursing graduate.

I'm very surprised she's heard nothing yet. Quite often, entry level nurses start out working 2nd or 3rd shifts, so be prepared for that. Some hospitals have shifts where they work 16's on the weekends. But, as far as demand goes, it seems that hospitals are willing to pay quite a bit to attract good nurses. I've seen many hospitals that have signing bonuses for nurses. My wife showed me an ad a week or two ago for a hospital in the southwest; $15,000 signing bonus, and a significantly higher salary than nurses in our area are making. We're quite content with where we live & have no desire to move to the Southwest, otherwise something like that would be tempting.
 

TheVrolok

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Originally posted by: Pliablemoose
If nurses were paid what they're worth, there would be no shortage. We're subject to an artificially manipulated supply/demand curve.

It can indeed be a shame. A good nurse is worth his or her weight in gold.. actually, more. A bad nurse, however, is absolutely horrifying. These swells of "nursing shortage" talk and the cyclical rates of saturation really do give a bad portrayal of the job market. Personally, I think the entire system is problematic. There are so many fantastic nurses, and there are so many fairly horrible ones. It can be hard, on paper, to differentiate (especially in the early stages of a career) and give those deserving the step up. Some of the attitudes on these out of high school right to nursing school GNs that picked up jobs prior to graduation when the saturation rates were low.. yikes. My hat is off to all the good nurses out there, they simply kick ass.

That's a very nice stethoscope. I got one as a gift when I replaced my master cardiology. Quality stuff.
 

djheater

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Originally posted by: DrPizza
You said "nurse" - you didn't specify if it was RN or LPN. I may be wrong, but I believe the demand for RN's is greater than the demand for LPN's these days.
:thumbsup: on the engraved stethoscope. Probably the best possible gift for a nursing graduate.

I'm very surprised she's heard nothing yet. Quite often, entry level nurses start out working 2nd or 3rd shifts, so be prepared for that. Some hospitals have shifts where they work 16's on the weekends. But, as far as demand goes, it seems that hospitals are willing to pay quite a bit to attract good nurses. I've seen many hospitals that have signing bonuses for nurses. My wife showed me an ad a week or two ago for a hospital in the southwest; $15,000 signing bonus, and a significantly higher salary than nurses in our area are making. We're quite content with where we live & have no desire to move to the Southwest, otherwise something like that would be tempting.

R.N. - she actually has her B.S. in biology, and wants to start a Masters program to become a Midwife, but can't really do that until she has a year of experience in labor and delivery... of course that ties into when I'll be able to start grad school, so I'm feeling just as anxious as her
Everything is frozen here, unfortunately... so far as I've seen no one gets signing bonuses... I really think the interviews are going to make her, she'll come off as competent, sincere and driven all of which she is.

The ore research I do the more I feel confident she'll get something, but I may have to accept my grad school being pushed back a year or so.
Thanks for the encouragement!

She's super-prepared for her boards. She signed up for a study\practice class and ended up scoring in the 93rd percentile nationally.
 

rudder

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Originally posted by: MagnusTheBrewer
I have no idea what the job prospects are in Chicago but, nursing is in huge demand across the U.S. Congrats to her and I'm amazed she made it out of school without getting a job offer her senior year.

I just met a nurse in knoxville who has been unable to find another job for 8 months after being laid off. I guess demand is very region specific whereas just a couple of years ago you could walk into any town and be hired before days end.
 

DrPizza

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I looked around; one of the publications my wife receives always has pages of want ads for nurses; I can't find one anywhere though, and my wife is off to college tonight so that she can advance even further.
 
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