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Lifer
Dec 26, 2001
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Dear tkdkid,

A couple thoughts.

First, I am a young, single man; I have had a few serious relationships, but I've never been married, never even close. So take my thoughts with a grain of salt.

This is such a heart-wrenching situation, it is quite possibly one of the worst possible scenarios into which a person could be placed. Regardless of the path you choose, you are going to "lose": if you seek a divorce, you lose what you have built with her, and depending on the details you could lose even more than that. If you forgive and move on, you run the risk of ending up as a cuckold. The most difficult path that I can imagine is counseling - I think of this process, one that I have been down most of my life (not marital, only myself), and I think of surgery without anesthetic. If you decide to seek professional counseling, it will be painful; it requires honesty, openness and the willingness to listen to statements and thoughts which will rip you apart. After a while you go numb, you stop listening because you can't handle any more. When you leave, you'll have to live with this person, endure car rides with them, share a house, meals, everything. Are you prepared to endure further pain for the sake of healing? Perhaps to discover other infidelity, whether physical or emotional, to learn and deal with her deep, emotional issues? Perhaps, a year down the line, to conclude that divorce really is the only resolution?

But this is the only path that brings healing and the possibility of a healthy relationship in the future. Disregard these childish, brash statements about exacting revenge - it brings immature satisfaction at first, but it is like trying to save a sinking ship with a bucket. Any revenge you could enact would only leave you bitter and empty afterwards. But I think you already know this. Divorce at this point seems useless, because you have already stated your willingness to work things out.

So, I don't know what else to say. I reexamine my thoughts, and I become enraged - an act which she commits twice, with foresight and concealment; but there is guilt there, too. Anger tempered with pain, confusion, need and habit; you say you are a religious man, a couple, Christian, I so arrogantly presume. It goes without saying that the pillar of the three monotheistic religions is forgiveness and repentence, for Christians it is death and rebirth, the conquering of sin through Jesus; He forgives sin even though it is willful. What determination it takes to forgive pain consciously and maliciously inflicted, repeatedly!

Are you strong enough to take these steps?

I would recommend talking to a pastor/priest/imam/rabbi/monk that you trust and laying this out for them, and praying about it, and praying for your wife. You will need support through this, through the counseling process, and your wife will need support, and a competent, experienced priest will be your best route, someone who will pray with and for you both.

Good luck, whichever path you choose.

Shalom!
Nate
 

dquan97

Lifer
Jul 9, 2002
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Originally posted by: tkdkid
Oh so many people have asked but I forgot to respond, no we don't have any kids.

We've been talking and it's kind of the same old story. She feels unappreciated.... That we don't flirt much with each other anymore, or that we don't act like crazy teenagers in love apparently bothers her. We do have a fair share of that, but when you get older, it's just different, you know? She has very poor self esteem...she never thought anybody else would ever like her like I did when we started going out, and this guy did and she just went with it.

We're still young, 26 and 27.... I change my mind every 5 seconds. I am hurt on the deepest level possible, I just want her to leave and never see her again. At the same time, I still love her and hope to work it out.... Well, professional counseling is something we've agreed on. No idea what to do in the meantime.

Counseling is a must for the two of you. A good book that has helped me is titled "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman.
 

rickn

Diamond Member
Oct 15, 1999
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and btw, she admitted to she had an affair, twice.

you asked what to do

get it in writing
 

kenshorin

Golden Member
Apr 14, 2001
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Originally posted by: conjur
Hear that so many times. It's that E & I factor. The woman thinks because she doesn't feel those butterflies in the stomach or kisses don't move mountains for her anymore that she's no longer in love. Then they go running off and screw some guy who gives them those feelings. She's too immature to realize that she's grown up and is in a long-term relationship. You all just got married too young (as did I).

This is the best description I have heard in a long time. All chicks do this at least once. They may not do it to you, but they have done it to someone at one point in their life.
 

Bulk Beef

Diamond Member
Aug 14, 2001
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Bail out now. As much as you tell yourself that you might be able to get past this, you will not trust her, and it will be very unhealthy for both of you. Trust is near impossible to repair once it's been violated like this. When she's late coming home from work, and you start driving yourself crazy wondering where she is, and who she's with, you'll know what I mean. When she gets home and you start interrogating her over what she's been doing, you'll know what I mean. When she starts resenting you for saying you trust her when you really don't, you'll know what I mean. Just save yourself the time and trouble.

Just my opinion.
 

edro

Lifer
Apr 5, 2002
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RESPOND tkdkid!

Did they use protection?

What will really screw you over is if you decide to take her back and you guys have un-protected sex (I am assuming you do wince you have been together for 8 years), then she gives you hepitits or something that she got from the dude at work.

It sounds funny, but it is serious... you gotta ask her.
 

tkdkid

Senior member
Oct 13, 2000
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Originally posted by: edro13
RESPOND tkdkid!

Did they use protection?

What will really screw you over is if you decide to take her back and you guys have un-protected sex (I am assuming you do wince you have been together for 8 years), then she gives you hepitits or something that she got from the dude at work.

It sounds funny, but it is serious... you gotta ask her.

Sorry man, at work right now. Yeah, she says that they did use protection.
 

allisolm

Elite Member
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Jan 2, 2001
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Did they use protection?
It sounds funny, but it is serious... you gotta ask her.

It is serious and were I in those shoes I don't think I would rely on the truthfulness of someone who just cheated on me. I would get tested. Better safe than sorry - especially when "sorry" could be a death sentence.
 

Quixfire

Diamond Member
Jul 31, 2001
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Originally posted by: dquan97
Originally posted by: tkdkid
Oh so many people have asked but I forgot to respond, no we don't have any kids.

We've been talking and it's kind of the same old story. She feels unappreciated.... That we don't flirt much with each other anymore, or that we don't act like crazy teenagers in love apparently bothers her. We do have a fair share of that, but when you get older, it's just different, you know? She has very poor self esteem...she never thought anybody else would ever like her like I did when we started going out, and this guy did and she just went with it.

We're still young, 26 and 27.... I change my mind every 5 seconds. I am hurt on the deepest level possible, I just want her to leave and never see her again. At the same time, I still love her and hope to work it out.... Well, professional counseling is something we've agreed on. No idea what to do in the meantime.

Counseling is a must for the two of you. A good book that has helped me is titled "The Five Love Languages" by Gary Chapman.
That is an awesome book, I second the motion.

 

athithi

Golden Member
Mar 5, 2002
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Hang on to her until it gets so bad that there is no more flip-flopping. Then there will be no regrets - either way.

I really don't understand western relationships - it's ok to have multiple sex partners before marriage, it's ok to get married and divorced multiple times, it's ok to have a live-in relationship and it's even ok to have kids without marraige and yet, it's the worst crime in the world when sex becomes a symptom of what's wrong with an otherwise functional marraige?

Try counselling and if that doesn't work, try fighting and accusing and name-calling until divorce becomes sweet relief.
 

OutHouse

Lifer
Jun 5, 2000
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become swingers. Your wife is looking for something different, its not that she doesnt love you, im sure she does but she wants just a little somthing different from time to time.
 

Mday

Lifer
Oct 14, 1999
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i recommend counseling. then move on with life depending on how the counseling goes.
 

Beau

Lifer
Jun 25, 2001
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www.beauscott.com
It is possible for you to forgive, and things to return to near normal, and even get better... But, there will ALWAYS be a slight pain from this, no matter if you leave her or not. It comes down to a question of whether or not you truely love her and if you BELIEVE that she loves you. If the answer is yes to both, then you have a very good chance of making it through this. Trust is a hard thing to gain once it's been lost, and no doubt it will be a while before you can give it to her again, but if you choose to work this out, you MUST realize that you have to trust her again at some point, and you cannot continually punish her for this mistake.

It's a tough position, and I can only pray that I never have to face the same with my wife.

Good luck, man.
 

JackBurton

Lifer
Jul 18, 2000
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This really hurts when I hear stuff like this. I've had this happen to me and I'll tell you, it is true, once a cheat, always a cheat. I always thought it wasn't true if you had someone "special." Yeah fvcking right! I've gone through the same sh!t. You forgive them and guess what, more bullsh!t happens down the line! And sh!t, I NEVER did anything and I had ALOT of opportunities with quite a few girls. I was the perfect guy. Loved the hell out of her and did all I could for her. Guess what I got in return, lies and more lies! And the only reason I found out was when she started acting a little fishy one day, I decided to do a little checking up. If she was good, it would show, if she was bad, it would show. Guess what, she was a whore! I just couldn't believe it! And let me tell you, I was with her longer than 8 years! :|
 

GTaudiophile

Lifer
Oct 24, 2000
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Forgive her, seek counseling. Most couples come out stronger when they weather such storms.

Also sounds like things could be hotter in bed. Talk to each other, open the lines of communication, get kinky again.

Example: A female member here who is also a loving wife likes to go without underwear around the house so hubby can grope her while making dinner or something. They seem to do a decent job of keeping the spice alive.
 

DougK62

Diamond Member
Mar 28, 2001
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Originally posted by: athithi
I really don't understand western relationships - it's ok to have multiple sex partners before marriage, it's ok to get married and divorced multiple times, it's ok to have a live-in relationship and it's even ok to have kids without marraige and yet, it's the worst crime in the world when sex becomes a symptom of what's wrong with an otherwise functional marraige?.

Are you joking? All of the things you mention deal with mutual consent and not being deceptive EXCEPT for marital infidelity. You would have to be a deaf mute retard to not see the difference between premarital sex, premarital kids, etc versus cheating on your spouse.
 

Hammer

Lifer
Oct 19, 2001
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Originally posted by: allisolm
Did they use protection?
It sounds funny, but it is serious... you gotta ask her.

It is serious and were I in those shoes I don't think I would rely on the truthfulness of someone who just cheated on me. I would get tested. Better safe than sorry - especially when "sorry" could be a death sentence.

i agree with this too. get it done right away.
 

TommyVercetti

Diamond Member
Jan 4, 2003
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Originally posted by: GTaudiophile
Forgive her, seek counseling. Most couples come out stronger when they weather such storms.

Also sounds like things could be hotter in bed. Talk to each other, open the lines of communication, get kinky again.

Example: A female member here who is also a loving wife likes to go without underwear around the house so hubby can grope her while making dinner or something. They seem to do a decent job of keeping the spice alive.

GOOD HEAVENS! You just gave me "fodder" for tonite, tomorrow night, and the night after that. The fantasies shall not end.
 

sadb0i

Golden Member
Mar 2, 2001
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that sucks dude

my ex wife had an affair too. just found out my gf made out with another dude.

i feel you.
 

alkemyst

No Lifer
Feb 13, 2001
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Originally posted by: tkdkid
Happy new year, huh? Well she just told me that two weeks ago she screwed some guy from work. Got off early and went to his place. Then did it again another day. I never considered that she would do something like that. She's never been that kind of person. We've openly criticized other couples for sleeping around. Our relationship has been great for over 8 years. We're very religious and very honest with each other. I have no idea what to do.

She says she sorry and she doesn't know what she was thinking. She still loves me very much. I'm lost.

Well hypocracy is usually rampant with people, some adamant about something wrong usually is guilty of it themselves at one point or another (ignorance is another thing).

8 years of a relationship it probably in the '7 year itch' stage....no one knows why but affairs and divorce during this time are common. You need to think if she is right for you and can be trusted (she admitting this is a pretty trustworthy thing on her part, as long as it was said to help and not hurt).

Sex is a petty thing, we put it on this pedestal but what is it really. Fun for a moment (don't get me wrong I look for it constantly, but still it's fleeting once over). The biggest problems people have with infidelity is 'are they being compared?' Women wonder if she did things she won't or was better at them or had a better body, etc. Men wonder 'am I smaller' usually, then also the looks and performance come up.

Honestly though out of the sex I have had (second marriage and lost count of who and when I have 'done') I may think about past 'flings' once in a blue moon....perhaps a dream or just deja vu spawns a memory. I am not lusting for that person back, it usually just reminds me of who I have at the time.

I would recommend councelling for both of you, it's not for 'crazy' people or just the 'guilty' one. It's a third-party that can tell you why both of you are wrong on things and right on others and help make a fair compromise.

Å
 

Ausm

Lifer
Oct 9, 1999
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Originally posted by: tkdkid
Happy new year, huh? Well she just told me that two weeks ago she screwed some guy from work. Got off early and went to his place. Then did it again another day. I never considered that she would do something like that. She's never been that kind of person. We've openly criticized other couples for sleeping around. Our relationship has been great for over 8 years. We're very religious and very honest with each other. I have no idea what to do.

She says she sorry and she doesn't know what she was thinking. She still loves me very much. I'm lost.

Been there X2....it sucks when your loved one rips your heart out. Religious or not adultery is not right in any way shape or form.

Dump the bitch

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