Wife lost job......

[goobee]

She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

 

[Ns1]

What field?

 

[amdhunter]

That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

 

[Atomic Playboy]

Tell her "I got a job for you," and point to your crotch. That should cheer her up.

But nah, that sucks. Good luck to your wife in finding new work.

 

[rasczak]

Originally posted by: Ns1
What field?

 

[Stifko]

Sorry to hear about your wife losing her job. It is a bad time to be unemployed. I hope that she got a halfway decent package at least for her 21 years!

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

This is why you should switch jobs every 5 years, so you make yourself more marketable and you adapt to the changing economy.

Sorry to hear about your wife. What field?

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

 

[FDF12389]

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

My company does 1000k with 8 plus a manager.

 

[BigJ]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

My company does 1000k with 8 plus a manager.

So your company manages a million workstations with 9 people? By any chance, are they Cylons?

 

[ryan256]

New Blood
'nü 'bl?d
noun

1. A person used to replace one seen as obsolete.
2. A young kid who can be worked twice as hard for half the pay.

 

[cjchaps]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

My company does 1000k with 8 plus a manager.

Mine does 8.6 trillion stations with -6.4 plus a team lead.

 

[hanoverphist]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

My company does 1000k with 8 plus a manager.

i realize its possible (well, not the 1,000,000 like you posted), and part of that 40 is for their web services and email services. they had like 6 techs that traveled to stores (convenience stores) and did set up/ repairs onsite, as well as others that worked with the register software. there was also web devs mixed in there, they maintain their own cell network and control all the cells in t he company. those 40 people did a remarkable amount of different fields, so it wasnt too unbelievable.

i only manage about 30 systems on my own, but i farm out email. i also only have to work internally, there is no web presence (on purpose). but IT is only a fraction of my job, im really an industrial programmer and scada/ telemetry specialist

 

[TheoPetro]

well was she performing the job to expectations? I know that there are a lot of people who just get complacent in their jobs and dont perform nearly as well as someone who has only been there for a little while.

 

[Uppsala9496]

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

In CA, all your wife has to do is go to the EEOC and claim age discrimination as a reason for being let go. Toss in gender while you are at it. That results in an investigation into the company. Most likely a "no fault" will be found however you get a "right to sue" ruling.
Turn around and hit up a lawyer. In CA, judgements are crazy. The 9th circuit in my opinion is way too liberal and that works in your favor.

I know, suing is not always the answer. But when a company decides to can someone for no reason ("at will" is a joke), a lawsuit seems to be the only recourse.

I say this as being an underwriter for employment practices liability. We are the carrier that defends the companies, and I still say sue (we pay when the deductible is met).

 

[goobee]

She was a Systems Analyst for many years and they did away with that position. She volunteered to go into a claims department and learn how to handle claims. Before she fully completed the training, they decided to hire trainees. This company makes you sign "At Will" employment contracts so that they can terminate you without cause.

 

[paulxcook]

Unemployment FTW?

 

[TheoPetro]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

In CA, all your wife has to do is go to the EEOC and claim age discrimination as a reason for being let go. Toss in gender while you are at it. That results in an investigation into the company. Most likely a "no fault" will be found however you get a "right to sue" ruling.
Turn around and hit up a lawyer. In CA, judgements are crazy. The 9th circuit in my opinion is way too liberal and that works in your favor.

I know, suing is not always the answer. But when a company decides to can someone for no reason ("at will" is a joke), a lawsuit seems to be the only recourse.

I say this as being an underwriter for employment practices liability. We are the carrier that defends the companies, and I still say sue (we pay when the deductible is met).

why not throw in sexual harassment and race too. hell anything to beat the system. who cares if this is the whole story or if the company had a legitimate reason for letting her go that wasnt fully explained...

"down with big business!!!" o wait BIG BUSINESS IS WHAT PAYS YOU AND MOST OF THE TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY

 

[jdini76]

How do you know she will experience age discrimination when looking for a new job? She has been in the same job for 21 years so all you are doing is speculating and putting false thoughts into her head! How about trying to encourage her to look instead of giving her pessimistic views. Jees.

 

[TheTony]

Originally posted by: TheoPetro
o wait BIG BUSINESS IS WHAT PAYS YOU AND MOST OF THE TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY

Well, that's not quite correct, but we'll pretend you didn't say that so your rant can still apply

 

[Xylitol]

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

It means that they found Indians to do the work

 

[Agentbolt]

Originally posted by: FDF12389

Originally posted by: hanoverphist

Originally posted by: amdhunter
That sucks. What do you mean they needed new blood? They just replaced her like nothing?

i watched an IT dept escort 10 techs out the door a couple months ago, some with major seniority as well as higher placed positions. all based on a consultants recommendations in canada, since another IT dept could handle a heavier workload in a different building with less employees. they didnt take into account the amount of work each building had, and that the IT dept here was already backlogged on work due to previous cuts. 40 employees for about 3k workstations isnt too many, IMO.

My company does 1000k with 8 plus a manager.

What is is about ATOT that makes people claim these outrageous, completely bullshit things? Did you really think anyone would believe those numbers? Do you think you've somehow impressed anyone with your completely inability to either count or at least gauge your ability to lie reasonably? Christ.

 

[JS80]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

In CA, all your wife has to do is go to the EEOC and claim age discrimination as a reason for being let go. Toss in gender while you are at it. That results in an investigation into the company. Most likely a "no fault" will be found however you get a "right to sue" ruling.
Turn around and hit up a lawyer. In CA, judgements are crazy. The 9th circuit in my opinion is way too liberal and that works in your favor.

I know, suing is not always the answer. But when a company decides to can someone for no reason ("at will" is a joke), a lawsuit seems to be the only recourse.

I say this as being an underwriter for employment practices liability. We are the carrier that defends the companies, and I still say sue (we pay when the deductible is met).

That's baloney. As liberal as CA is, 95% of these types of cases lose. Plus you will more or less be unhireable afterwards (you will be blacklisted). I have an asian friend who got "laid off" by his racist boss. He had evidence of harassment and whistleblew on him for unethical transactions made (finance field) right before he was let go. To top it his girlfriend got laid off with him. He went to a lawyer who more or less said unless you had an email that literally called him a beloved patriot, he had a 5% chance of winning in court PLUS he'd be blacklisted from Wall St if it even went to court.

 

[SacrosanctFiend]

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

In CA, all your wife has to do is go to the EEOC and claim age discrimination as a reason for being let go. Toss in gender while you are at it. That results in an investigation into the company. Most likely a "no fault" will be found however you get a "right to sue" ruling.
Turn around and hit up a lawyer. In CA, judgements are crazy. The 9th circuit in my opinion is way too liberal and that works in your favor.

I know, suing is not always the answer. But when a company decides to can someone for no reason ("at will" is a joke), a lawsuit seems to be the only recourse.

I say this as being an underwriter for employment practices liability. We are the carrier that defends the companies, and I still say sue (we pay when the deductible is met).

So, sue for something that didn't happen? Great advice...

 

[Uppsala9496]

Originally posted by: TheoPetro

Originally posted by: Uppsala9496

Originally posted by: goobee
She had 21 years in the company but management decided they needed new blood and gave her the boot. I guess years and years of prior good service means squat these days. The company is heavily into outsourcing and quite a few others have had to bite the bullet as well.

Going from 2 incomes to 1 is pretty tough. Looks like we'll need to offset some of the loss from our savings. Finding another job is going to be tough, age discrimination is going to be a tough hurdle.

Can anyone recommend some good head hunters in So. CA?

Thanks.

In CA, all your wife has to do is go to the EEOC and claim age discrimination as a reason for being let go. Toss in gender while you are at it. That results in an investigation into the company. Most likely a "no fault" will be found however you get a "right to sue" ruling.
Turn around and hit up a lawyer. In CA, judgements are crazy. The 9th circuit in my opinion is way too liberal and that works in your favor.

I know, suing is not always the answer. But when a company decides to can someone for no reason ("at will" is a joke), a lawsuit seems to be the only recourse.

I say this as being an underwriter for employment practices liability. We are the carrier that defends the companies, and I still say sue (we pay when the deductible is met).

why not throw in sexual harassment and race too. hell anything to beat the system. who cares if this is the whole story or if the company had a legitimate reason for letting her go that wasnt fully explained...

"down with big business!!!" o wait BIG BUSINESS IS WHAT PAYS YOU AND MOST OF THE TAXES IN THIS COUNTRY

I work for the big, bad, evil insurance company. I see claims like this come across my desk on a daily basis. Sometimes the company did nothing wrong. Sometimes the company decided to screw over a hard working employee to save some money. Life isn't fair.
I said toss in gender while you are at it because any lawyer worth a shit is going to say the same thing. They tack on as many claims as they can. Some stick, some don't.

Disregard the "at will" statement signed. At will basically means nothing more than there is no employment contract. Doesn't mean you can't bring a suit for wrongful termination/discrimination.

OP stated that his wife was given the opportunity to train in a new deptartment but was let go to hire trainee's (for less money I am assuming). That right there is discrimination. You may not like it, but the courts are filled with cases like this and some (not saying all) are legitimate and deserve to be there. I'm not a lawyer. I don't know all the facts to this. I have just see these kinds of things day and day out for the past 7 years.
Most, if not all settle for something. Nuisance claim for the company and for the insurance carrier, but a simple $5,000 to $25,000 go away payment is far cheaper than defending the claim in court. Hell, the comapny could lose there and pay upwards of a couple hundreds of thousands of dollars.