Wii's Virtual Console Games...this sucks!

[Trader05]

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what happened to the first Wii?

I ebayed it around Christmas time and it actually never made it to destination. Thank god i insured it through UPS and they ended up covering it. Thats why i brought up the "stolen" issue, even to nintendo. Still no go.

Well you sold it with the VC games on it, right? Why didn't you insure it for the full value including VC games?

When UPS investigates the case for their insurance, you have to have proof of value of product. I insured it for $500. Since it goes back to both parties, the person said it was an ebay item and they go by the auction price...which i think it was around $375 for a console and wii play package.

 

[CKDragon]

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what happened to the first Wii?

I ebayed it around Christmas time and it actually never made it to destination. Thank god i insured it through UPS and they ended up covering it. Thats why i brought up the "stolen" issue, even to nintendo. Still no go.

Well you sold it with the VC games on it, right? Why didn't you insure it for the full value including VC games?

When UPS investigates the case for their insurance, you have to have proof of value of product. I insured it for $500. Since it goes back to both parties, the person said it was an ebay item and they go by the auction price...which i think it was around $375 for a console and wii play package.

So then the Wii and the VC games were worth $375. I'll agree that just about any DRM sucks, but I don't think you personally have much to complain about.

 

[mugs]

Originally posted by: CKDragon

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: mugs

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: Thraxen
So what happened to the first Wii?

I ebayed it around Christmas time and it actually never made it to destination. Thank god i insured it through UPS and they ended up covering it. Thats why i brought up the "stolen" issue, even to nintendo. Still no go.

Well you sold it with the VC games on it, right? Why didn't you insure it for the full value including VC games?

When UPS investigates the case for their insurance, you have to have proof of value of product. I insured it for $500. Since it goes back to both parties, the person said it was an ebay item and they go by the auction price...which i think it was around $375 for a console and wii play package.

So then the Wii and the VC games were worth $375. I'll agree that just about any DRM sucks, but I don't think you personally have much to complain about.

Yeah, this. Sounds like this has the potential to screw other people, but the OP did not get screwed.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: SunnyD

Originally posted by: randomlinh
sigh... why can't nintendo get these simple things right? it's bad enough their online aspect is terrible. This is what will keep me from getting wii ware games.

On a similar note, the lockdown of save files for mario kart and ssbb is ridiculous. you run into the same arguments of "what if my wii breaks.. and I had over 300hrs logged into SSBB?" just play it again? I think not.

You've got bigger problems if you've invested 300 hours into SSBB...

while that was an obvious exaggeration, my point is time invested could easily be saved by not having this crap locked down.

unless there are cheat codes to unlock everything. still would be annoying out of principle

 

[Eeezee]

Originally posted by: Burrens78
I bought a Wii when it came out and purchased 2 VC games before selling it. Knowing that the VC games, and my account was tied to the console I unlinked it to my www.nintendo.com account (there is an option on the Wii to do this). I then also reformatted the Wii's memory before I sold it.

A few months later I purchased another Wii (sellers remorse) and linked it to my nintendo.com account. I too cannot re-download my purchased games, even though there is history tied to my nintemdo.com account acknowledging that I purchased the VC games previously.

That does in fact suck. As far as I can tell, that is Nintendo stealing from ME!

That is definitely fucked up, no question

 

[RaiderJ]

When I sold my Wii, I left all the VC games on it. If I were to have formatted the memory, it would have removed those games. No sense in doing that when the next owner could just play them.

Again, this is why people go towards hacks & ROM's. Microsoft actually did quite well with the 360 and its Live implementation. Very well thought out.

 

[skace]

From what I understand, neither the 360 nor the Wii has a perfect DRM solution. So neither should get a pat on the back. Having said that, I'd fully expect Microsoft to perfect theirs long before Nintendo. It really isn't surprising if you look at some of the things Nintendo has said in the past, they really look at online play as some sort of blight on the world of gaming that should be destroyed before it grows too large (oops too late). They are learning and adapting, but it will be a slow process for them because it is clearly their weakest area.

And, for what it is worth, the most common scenario of someone's Wii breaking seems to be covered. I don't pretend to understand people who buy consoles, sell them and then buy the same console again. Make up your damned minds. I just don't see this scenario happening to me at all.

 

[DivideBYZero]

From teh Wii support site:

Missing previously-downloaded games

If you have downloaded a game to your Wii console, but have since deleted it or otherwise lost it, you can re-download it:

1. Access the Wii Shop Channel (how to).

2. Select "Start Shopping" and choose "Virtual Console."

3. Browse through the available titles to find the game you need to re-download.

4. Select "Download" to download the game again.

As long as you are using the same Wii console you used to originally download the game, you will be able to re-download it should the game be lost or deleted.

So if you sell a console you sell all the VC content too. As Skace said, you should make up your feeble minds.

 

[shingletingle]

Knowing this, I'll never buy a Nintendo VC game for my Wii. What a truly awful system. The 360's isn't great, but it beats this by a mile.

 

[hooflung]

Sounds to me like people wanting an option to sell their high demand items to make a buck off people who are desperate to have them and expect that things work to their advantage. Protip: go to a Walmart or Gamestop in the middle of bumfracknowhere where they still kick it with the PS2/Xbox because they don't know any better and buy one of the wii's collecting dust off the shelve. There are quite a few of them around here in Florida with fully stocked Wiis.

Sounds to me like you want everything handed to you.

 

[randomlinh]

Originally posted by: hooflung
Sounds to me like people wanting an option to sell their high demand items to make a buck off people who are desperate to have them and expect that things work to their advantage. Protip: go to a Walmart or Gamestop in the middle of bumfracknowhere where they still kick it with the PS2/Xbox because they don't know any better and buy one of the wii's collecting dust off the shelve. There are quite a few of them around here in Florida with fully stocked Wiis.

Sounds to me like you want everything handed to you.

did you not read the thread at all? he sold the wii, unregistered the games.. and the wii was lost in shipping. he figured he could maybe try and get the VC games back.

but regardless, it still is about the lame implementation of the VC and likely wii ware as well.

 

[DivideBYZero]

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: hooflung
Sounds to me like people wanting an option to sell their high demand items to make a buck off people who are desperate to have them and expect that things work to their advantage. Protip: go to a Walmart or Gamestop in the middle of bumfracknowhere where they still kick it with the PS2/Xbox because they don't know any better and buy one of the wii's collecting dust off the shelve. There are quite a few of them around here in Florida with fully stocked Wiis.

Sounds to me like you want everything handed to you.

did you not read the thread at all? he sold the wii, unregistered the games.. and the wii was lost in shipping. he figured he could maybe try and get the VC games back.

but regardless, it still is about the lame implementation of the VC and likely wii ware as well.

No, he sold it with the VC games on it, then wanted them back. FAIL!

 

[Trader05]

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: hooflung
Sounds to me like people wanting an option to sell their high demand items to make a buck off people who are desperate to have them and expect that things work to their advantage. Protip: go to a Walmart or Gamestop in the middle of bumfracknowhere where they still kick it with the PS2/Xbox because they don't know any better and buy one of the wii's collecting dust off the shelve. There are quite a few of them around here in Florida with fully stocked Wiis.

Sounds to me like you want everything handed to you.

did you not read the thread at all? he sold the wii, unregistered the games.. and the wii was lost in shipping. he figured he could maybe try and get the VC games back.

but regardless, it still is about the lame implementation of the VC and likely wii ware as well.

No, he sold it with the VC games on it, then wanted them back. FAIL!

If i sold the console and nothing was mishandled, i would not care. The fact that it was most likely stolen in transit and i did unregister the games, the chance of attempting to get the games back was worth it. End result it did not happen, oh well, and i did end up purchasing a bare minimal amount of VC games compared to what i used to have. I created this thread to give a people heads up to what could happen if your console gets stolen and if your factory warranty expires and if you have a retail based extended warranty, you would be screwed on VC games. Thanks for reading!!!

 

[SpeedEng66]

Originally posted by: Trader05

Originally posted by: DivideBYZero

Originally posted by: randomlinh

Originally posted by: hooflung
Sounds to me like people wanting an option to sell their high demand items to make a buck off people who are desperate to have them and expect that things work to their advantage. Protip: go to a Walmart or Gamestop in the middle of bumfracknowhere where they still kick it with the PS2/Xbox because they don't know any better and buy one of the wii's collecting dust off the shelve. There are quite a few of them around here in Florida with fully stocked Wiis.

Sounds to me like you want everything handed to you.

did you not read the thread at all? he sold the wii, unregistered the games.. and the wii was lost in shipping. he figured he could maybe try and get the VC games back.

but regardless, it still is about the lame implementation of the VC and likely wii ware as well.

No, he sold it with the VC games on it, then wanted them back. FAIL!

If i sold the console and nothing was mishandled, i would not care. The fact that it was most likely stolen in transit and i did unregister the games, the chance of attempting to get the games back was worth it. End result it did not happen, oh well, and i did end up purchasing a bare minimal amount of VC games compared to what i used to have. I created this thread to give a people heads up to what could happen if your console gets stolen and if your factory warranty expires and if you have a retail based extended warranty, you would be screwed on VC games. Thanks for reading!!!

I get whatcha mean kinda sucks what happened!
I dont hack my systems or anything but if my wii decide to take a poop/breaks I hope I can get all my vc games, that I paid for! (even tho it's on another system)

 

[coldpower27]

Is there any change to this implementation now after this much time has passed, are VC games still tied to the Wii they were purchased on. That is completely ridiculous if true, they should have a system analogous to Steam.

 

[Blayze]

Is there any change to this implementation now after this much time has passed, are VC games still tied to the Wii they were purchased on. That is completely ridiculous if true, they should have a system analogous to Steam.

No change at all. The DRM has also moved on to the DSi as well. If you upgrade to the DSi XL or buy a new DSi your download content can't be moved.

I have heard a few cases where calling Nintendo got the information transferred over. It was mainly if a Wii was lost in a fire/stolen, etc... and you could prove it.

I have bought 2 items from the Wii Shop, but I doubt I will buy much more until this is changed (if it ever is).

 

[Golgatha]

Downloadable content is changing that dynamic and companies really have to try and future proof their systems instead of just thinking about the "now".

Why would they do that when they know consumers will just buy it again on the Wii 2? You assume they care about satisfying their customers over fleecing them over and over in the name of increased profits. Just another example of DRM serving its real intended purpose.