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sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
70,131
5,658
126
Ah, yes.

The epitome of right-wing pseudo think.

It's the fault of Libruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuls that the Republican base decided that they wanted a shit-tier "reality" TV moron to be their Presidential candidate by, like, going to the fucking polling station and voting for a shit-tier "reality" TV moron.

Yes, it's the libruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuls fault that the Republican base voted for Trump.

Brilliant reasoning, hoss.

Hillary rigged it. Trump was right!
 

agent00f

Lifer
Jun 9, 2016
12,203
1,242
86
lol. Enjoy the tolerant left, boomer.

Liberal tolerance implies the context of either inconsequential choices, or disadvantages of birth. First let's establish that someone's stupidity is consequential in this sort of discussion, I'm sure you would agree. Thus that means you must be asking for some tolerance of inborn disadvantages, thereby claiming to be born stupid instead of by choice, can't stop mouthing stupid things and there's nothing to be done about it? That is rather unfortunate if true, but if I'm sure if you prostrate the charity case enough the liberal bleeding hearts here will oblige.
 

sportage

Lifer
Feb 1, 2008
11,493
3,159
136
Yeah I read the whole thing and I came away as... SO?
Frankly, what she has said and how she thinks and believes comes down to quite sound advice and reasoning.
After all, we do live in a climate of corporate greed and the banks do control all the money.
So, you either deal with the truth, with the facts, or you pretend none of this is really happening.
We are not living in the world Bernie Sanders envisioned, we are living in the world Hillary Clinton addressed.
Understanding something thoroughly and the ability to intelligantly discuss it is the best way to eventually change it.
All I see is a Hillary Clinton that thoroughly understands the real world and has the intelligence to change it.
Compare that to.... oh well, never mind.
 

michal1980

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2003
8,019
43
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This is what she actually said-



John Lennon wrote a song like like that-

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VOgFZfRVaww

It's just a dream.
she said exactly what I pointed out. How stupid are you that you don't think open borders would completely destroy the America worker?

How many more millions of people do you want to bring in to lower wages?

I love how the Dems cry about low wages, they cry about the destruction of unions, they cry about trade, but then go ahead and support unrestricted immigration.
 
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michal1980

Diamond Member
Mar 7, 2003
8,019
43
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Clearly you're terrible at reading. Bill Clinton, who isn't a candidate for any office that I know of, had a consensual relationship with a White House intern, functional illiterate.

Trump brags about grabbing women by their pussy and getting away with it because of his status.

You can continue conflating the two because you're now left shouting BothSidesDoIt™ to pretend that you have any semblance of integrity, but that's all you're doing. So, congrats on that, I guess.

What any of that has to do with teachers having sex with 17 year olds, other than that is what is on your mind, I'll never know, but again, please continue making fun of yourself in public, on the record. It truly is hilarious and puzzling why you do so, but I support your right to do it. Champ.


Go back to arguing with bumper stickers. You at least have a chance at a draw, and you won't be cruelly laughed at by children. Additionally, you can do it while cowering in a nice safe space.

ISIS check stopped coming so you switched to whoring yourself out like your mom does to the DNC? Bill rape your mom yet, or is your dad hotter?
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
26,717
25,054
136
What's the over and under before michal has another meltdown and gets another vacation from P&N?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Yeah I read the whole thing and I came away as... SO?
Frankly, what she has said and how she thinks and believes comes down to quite sound advice and reasoning.
After all, we do live in a climate of corporate greed and the banks do control all the money.
So, you either deal with the truth, with the facts, or you pretend none of this is really happening.
We are not living in the world Bernie Sanders envisioned, we are living in the world Hillary Clinton addressed.
Understanding something thoroughly and the ability to intelligantly discuss it is the best way to eventually change it.
All I see is a Hillary Clinton that thoroughly understands the real world and has the intelligence to change it.
Compare that to.... oh well, never mind.

Reality? Total buzz kill, man. Righties have been working themselves up to this emotional snit for a long while & they're gonna play it out.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
27,112
318
126
Ah, yes.

The epitome of right-wing pseudo think.

It's the fault of Libruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuls that the Republican base decided that they wanted a shit-tier "reality" TV moron to be their Presidential candidate by, like, going to the fucking polling station and voting for a shit-tier "reality" TV moron.

Yes, it's the libruuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuls fault that the Republican base voted for Trump.

Brilliant reasoning, hoss.

It's not the left's fault for the most part (I'd agree that overwhelmingly it's the fault of the entitled white trash base that voted for Trump), but it's exactly what the left wanted. It completely invalidates the argument that third-party voters have an obligation to stop Trump, when the left didn't want Trump stopped until after he was confirmed.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
It's not the left's fault for the most part (I'd agree that overwhelmingly it's the fault of the entitled white trash base that voted for Trump), but it's exactly what the left wanted. It completely invalidates the argument that third-party voters have an obligation to stop Trump, when the left didn't want Trump stopped until after he was confirmed.

The left wanted any Republican stopped, not just Trump. It didn't matter which one.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
7,596
7,854
136
The left wanted any Republican stopped, not just Trump. It didn't matter which one.
Yes, yes, but you need to remember that BothSidesDoIt™.

Otherwise, we have to delve into the reality that while one political party is a typical political party that can't solve all of our problems, the other political party is batshit insane and shouldn't be allowed within a parsec of the levers of power.

So, ultimately, it's just as much the left's fault, because we didn't all go out and campaign for Ted Cruz. Or something.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
27,112
318
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The left wanted any Republican stopped, not just Trump. It didn't matter which one.

It did matter which one. Read their strategy. They wanted the most extreme and least qualified candidates to have a shot at the White House.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
7,596
7,854
136
It did matter which one. Read their strategy. They wanted the most extreme and least qualified candidates to have a shot at the White House.
And then the pig-dumb Republican base gave the Democratic party exactly what they wanted.

Wait, I'm sorry, that was offensive. Pigs are actually intelligent, reasonable creatures.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
27,112
318
126
And then the pig-dumb Republican base gave the Democratic party exactly what they wanted.

Wait, I'm sorry, that was offensive. Pigs are actually intelligent, reasonable creatures.

Yes, they did. All the more reason not to play their games and not vote for either candidate.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
It did matter which one. Read their strategy. They wanted the most extreme and least qualified candidates to have a shot at the White House.

Gawd. It's not like Repub organizations weren't running pro Bernie ads, either, or that they haven't been concern trolling mercilessly since his defeat.

Trying to pick your own opponent has been a standard method since the Greek city states, I'm sure. This time around it really didn't matter because the Repub base fell in love with the Donald & the very distant runner up was Cruz, a different kind of trainwreck. Hell, a person might think the weren't acting rationally because they weren't and haven't for a long time. They don't want much of anything other than to fight their culture war against a largely imaginary opponent they see in the rest of us.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
27,112
318
126
Already acknowledged that Repubs were doing the same thing with Bernie. They would have eaten him alive had he won the nomination as an evil crazy commie. All it tells me is that either...

1) Neither candidate is as dangerous as the other side likes to pretend; we have a constitution to minimize the damage they can inflict
2) Partisan victory is so important that you can risk a dangerous opponent making it in if it improves your own chances of winning

The "A vote not for X is a vote for Y" argument is such a load of crap.
 

nickqt

Diamond Member
Jan 15, 2015
7,596
7,854
136
Already acknowledged that Repubs were doing the same thing with Bernie. They would have eaten him alive had he won the nomination as an evil crazy commie. All it tells me is that either...

1) Neither candidate is as dangerous as the other side likes to pretend; we have a constitution to minimize the damage they can inflict
2) Partisan victory is so important that you can risk a dangerous opponent making it in if it improves your own chances of winning

The "A vote not for X is a vote for Y" argument is such a load of crap.
Let's be real clear here.

The Democratic party, and the people who voted in the Democratic primaries had absolutely Zero to do with the Republican base coming out in record numbers to put an unhinged shit-tier reality TV moron at the top of the Republican presidential ticket.

This has nothing to do with a partisan victory and allowing your opponent to get into anything. The Democratic party did not control who ran as a Republican, and who the Republican base voted for.
 

HamburgerBoy

Lifer
Apr 12, 2004
27,112
318
126
So do you think the strategy that they sent out was pure hopeful fantasy, which ended up working out in their favor anyways?
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Already acknowledged that Repubs were doing the same thing with Bernie. They would have eaten him alive had he won the nomination as an evil crazy commie. All it tells me is that either...

1) Neither candidate is as dangerous as the other side likes to pretend; we have a constitution to minimize the damage they can inflict
2) Partisan victory is so important that you can risk a dangerous opponent making it in if it improves your own chances of winning

The "A vote not for X is a vote for Y" argument is such a load of crap.

Democrats didn't pick Trump. Republicans picked Trump
So do you think the strategy that they sent out was pure hopeful fantasy, which ended up working out in their favor anyways?

Sometimes wishes do come true.
 

0roo0roo

No Lifer
Sep 21, 2002
64,862
84
91
Yeah I read the whole thing and I came away as... SO?
Frankly, what she has said and how she thinks and believes comes down to quite sound advice and reasoning.
After all, we do live in a climate of corporate greed and the banks do control all the money.
So, you either deal with the truth, with the facts, or you pretend none of this is really happening.
We are not living in the world Bernie Sanders envisioned, we are living in the world Hillary Clinton addressed.
Understanding something thoroughly and the ability to intelligantly discuss it is the best way to eventually change it.
All I see is a Hillary Clinton that thoroughly understands the real world and has the intelligence to change it.
Compare that to.... oh well, never mind.

Like Merkel is I'm sure
"open borders" the failure to understand the differences in cultures, the importance of identity, nationhood, ideology, seeing people as just interchangeable widgets for the optimum flow of cheap labor. She's as intelligent as the blank slate theorists of the communist states so many decades ago where they applied these beliefs through force. There is nothing intelligent about holding onto utopian visions of engineered human societies, let alone when the real world examples have proven how flawed they are.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
62,365
14,681
136
Like Merkel is I'm sure
"open borders" the failure to understand the differences in cultures, the importance of identity, nationhood, ideology, seeing people as just interchangeable widgets for the optimum flow of cheap labor. She's as intelligent as the blank slate theorists of the communist states so many decades ago where they applied these beliefs through force. There is nothing intelligent about holding onto utopian visions of engineered human societies, let alone when the real world examples have proven how flawed they are.

Our situation is in no way like that of Germany. There is simply no way that we will experience the influx of middle eastern refugees that we've seen in Germany. It's bullshit to even fantasize that we might.
 
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