Wikileaks releases Podesta's emails

[Starbuck1975]

I'll assume you can think on and figure out how centrism works. Might need some help on honesty though: http://www.portvapes.co.uk/?id=Latest-exam-1Z0-876-Dumps&exid=thread...-michelle-obama.2480583/page-14#post-38369383

Also, try not to make me look foollish by continuing to insist that the end is nigh. It's as dumb now as 8 years ago.



It's your first world problems blown out of proportion.

The Democrats are the ones using "the end is nigh" argument. You can't deny that Clinton is using the state of global affairs and her experience as being more qualified as a selling point. My point is that experience is not a measure of judgment and the state of the world is such that the next President will be called upon to exercise it extensively.

I am incapable of making anyone look foolish through mere words, although some of the Clinton fan club in these forums do just fine on their own with no help from me.

As for centrism, its a matter of perspective. Sanders and Trump both tapped into a similar vein of discontent with centrism and the status quo. Sanders did so with an inspired but perhaps inpractical populist message. Trump is the nuclear option. Is it any wonder that so many establishment Republicans are privately and in some cases publicly siding with Clinton? Centrism is an excuse for the status quo.

 

[Jaskalas]

Centrism is an excuse for the status quo.

It's a banner for Wall Street domestic policy and Neocon foreign policy. Both of which should have been nuked last decade.

 

[agent00f]

The Democrats are the ones using "the end is nigh" argument. You can't deny that Clinton is using the state of global affairs and her experience as being more qualified as a selling point. My point is that experience is not a measure of judgment and the state of the world is such that the next President will be called upon to exercise it extensively.

I am incapable of making anyone look foolish through mere words, although some of the Clinton fan club in these forums do just fine on their own with no help from me.

As for centrism, its a matter of perspective. Sanders and Trump both tapped into a similar vein of discontent with centrism and the status quo. Sanders did so with an inspired but perhaps inpractical populist message. Trump is the nuclear option. Is it any wonder that so many establishment Republicans are privately and in some cases publicly siding with Clinton? Centrism is an excuse for the status quo.

No, the democrats are saying that if nothing is done about economic fairness this country is gradually going the way of a dickens novel, which is supported by all academic evidence.

Do me a solid and ponder the difference here to freaking about Saddam bin laden Al Queda ISIS.

 

[Jhhnn]

Is anything I said untrue?

It's strong leader bullshit.

 

[Starbuck1975]

No, the democrats are saying that if nothing is done about economic fairness this country is gradually going the way of a dickens novel, which is supported by all academic evidence.

Do me a solid and ponder the difference here to freaking about Saddam bin laden Al Queda ISIS.

Sanders was saying that but then again he is not truly a Democrat. You can't honestly claim there's been any economic populist thread since Sanders dropped out.

Saddam was a totalitarian ruler in the mold of Tito and Mussolini, who simultaneously evoked Islamic religious and Persian historical themes when it suited him. Bin Laden was a bored rich kid and Al Quaida was born of our failed foreign policy in Afghanistan. ISIS was born of our failed foreign policy in Iraq and Syria.

I have a question for you. Why did Bin Laden attack America when just a few years prior to 9/11 American troops were actually protecting Muslim fighters and minority populations, and in some cases mujadeen, from the Serbs.

 

[Starbuck1975]

It's strong leader bullshit.

History celebrates and studies strong leaders, both good and bad. No one remembers the bureaucrats.

 

[Jhhnn]

History celebrates and studies strong leaders, both good and bad. No one remembers the bureaucrats.

So what?

 

[agent00f]

Sanders was saying that but then again he is not truly a Democrat. You can't honestly claim there's been any economic populist thread since Sanders dropped out.

He was the leftist running against the centrist. Centrism won the primary; elections have consequences.

Saddam was a totalitarian ruler in the mold of Tito and Mussolini, who simultaneously evoked Islamic religious and Persian historical themes when it suited him. Bin Laden was a bored rich kid and Al Quaida was born of our failed foreign policy in Afghanistan. ISIS was born of our failed foreign policy in Iraq and Syria.

I have a question for you. Why did Bin Laden attack America when just a few years prior to 9/11 American troops were actually protecting Muslim fighters and minority populations, and in some cases mujadeen, from the Serbs.

The point was people looking for it will always find something to be terrified of.

 

[sdifox]

I bet Assange wishes he had released this sooner, before the latest Trump situation exploded. Now it's just a footnote.

 

[Jaskalas]

I bet Assange wishes he had released this sooner, before the latest Trump situation exploded. Now it's just a footnote.

Not true. The ammo against Trump was just waiting for an opportune moment. They always knew he was dirty, and where to dig.
Clinton's criminal activity is "just a footnote" speaks to our media's active participation in her campaign.

 

[sdifox]

Not true. The ammo against Trump was just waiting for an opportune moment. They always knew he was dirty, and where to dig.
Clinton's criminal activity is "just a footnote" speaks to our media's active participation in her campaign.

Huh? The media has only one interest, make money. They don't really care whose dirt it is. If it is right wing dirt, right wing media will deflect or ignore while left wing media bring out 90pt font. Should left wing dirt be found, the reverse happens.

Ignore their noise is your best option.

The two party system is really hurting democracy. Particularly the electoral college.


From what I have seen, Hillary is a very skilled operator. I have no doubt she has broken laws. However, I don't see her ever getting nailed for it since she is very good at it.

 

[fskimospy]

It's a banner for Wall Street domestic policy and Neocon foreign policy. Both of which should have been nuked last decade.

Only one candidate is talking about invading other countries and it isn't Clinton. Trump is a bigger neocon than she ever was.

 

[senseamp]

"Lock her up" folks seem to ignore that Trump would be in jail and/or have to register as a repeat sex offender if he was a regular guy and went around groping women.
Also, up to 10 years in prison for violating Cuba embargo. That's just stuff we know or he admitted to.

 

[soundforbjt]

Trump did zero opposition research on himself (imagine that).Because of that, he has zero reason to whine about his current situation since it's his campaign's fault this came out like it did. If they had done their job they could've headed this off early in the campaign.

 

[Jhhnn]

Not true. The ammo against Trump was just waiting for an opportune moment. They always knew he was dirty, and where to dig.
Clinton's criminal activity is "just a footnote" speaks to our media's active participation in her campaign.

Gawd. Have you forgotten the media carrying water for the Repubs all through Benghazi & this whole heaping pile of email bullshit? The whole "Can't trust Hillary!" smear campaign?

The media isn't liberal at all. They're corporate opportunists feeding on sensationalism. Sometimes they're like a cat chasing a laser pointer dot & sometimes they actually catch some nice juicy vermin like Donald Trump.

 

[HamburgerBoy]

Has this one been posted yet?

“URSULA BURNS: So long means thumbs up, short means thumbs down; or long means I support, short means I don't. I'm going to start with -- I'm going to give you about ten long-shorts.

SECRETARY CLINTON: Even if you could make money on a short, you can't answer short.

URSULA BURNS: You can answer short, but you got to be careful about letting anybody else know that. They will bet against you. So legalization of pot?

SECRETARY CLINTON: Short in all senses of the word.”

[Hillary Clinton Remarks, Remarks at Xerox, 3/18/14]

 

[ivwshane]

Has this one been posted yet?

Has what been posted? A context less conversation?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

The interviewer seems to set up all the context that would be required to know where Clinton really stands on legalization of marijuana. What more context do you need?

 

[ivwshane]

The interviewer seems to set up all the context that would be required to know where Clinton really stands on legalization of marijuana. What more context do you need?

How about a link to the whole exchange?

 

[HamburgerBoy]

It was an excerpt from a collection of Clinton's speeches over the last several years. Someone on the Clinton team compiled hundreds of quotes from her speeches, highlighting specific ones she wanted to look into and "give an extra scrub". There's other juicy and funny stuff in there too, feel free to read for yourself:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

(The entirety of the quotes are under the attachments section)

 

[ivwshane]

It was an excerpt from a collection of Clinton's speeches over the last several years. Someone on the Clinton team compiled hundreds of quotes from her speeches, highlighting specific ones she wanted to look into and "give an extra scrub". There's other juicy and funny stuff in there too, feel free to read for yourself:

https://wikileaks.org/podesta-emails/emailid/927

(The entirety of the quotes are under the attachments section)

I read it and not only did I not see anything of concern but I didn't see the exchange you posted.

My understanding is that hillary is for medical marijuana and if I had to guess I'd imagine she is for letting the state determine its legality.

 

[DrDoug]

I read it and not only did I not see anything of concern but I didn't see the exchange you posted.

My understanding is that hillary is for medical marijuana and if I had to guess I'd imagine she is for letting the state determine its legality.

All Wikileaks has served is a huge yawning nothingburger with a heaping side of meh and an empty barrel of air to sip on. It would be funny if the Clinton campaign knew the info would be leaked and rather than put it out themselves for the press and wingers to harp on so instead let the leakers do it for them.

What's really funny is that Donald's own words are drowning out everything Clinton's emails...lol! There's something to be said about train wrecks getting attention...

 

[HamburgerBoy]

I'm not saying that a mainstream politician supporting the war on drugs is anything shocking or scandalous. It's just funny when I know there are at least one or two hardcore partisan Dems here that think she has a genuine interest in legalization. Enjoy your pro-military intervention, anti-drug candidate.

 

[DrDoug]

I'm not saying that a mainstream politician supporting the war on drugs is anything shocking or scandalous. It's just funny when I know there are at least one or two hardcore partisan Dems here that think she has a genuine interest in legalization. Enjoy your pro-military intervention, anti-drug candidate.

I will, I live in Oregon. Fvck Trump.

 

[TeeJay1952]

I am the biggest Pothead since Cheech and I am not a one note voter. I can do what is best for country regardless of my own personal whims.