Regretfully, I have been busy. Also, unless new info comes along, people are trying to spin what has already been shown to be true. MAnning deliberately released classified documents; some may have gotten people killed.
Documents that are classified are done so for a reason. One may not approve, but to take it upon yourself to generate an unauthorized release is wrong.
To release them outside the authorized chain is a break of your oath.
Punishment should be jail time and/or discharge from ones position.
First off, no one has shown, what, 6 months later?, that anyone died. So stop with that, it just shows you are making up hypothetical possibilities.Even the military now admits the leak was a nuisance and not really dangerous. Stop with the intentional FUD.
Second, I don't think anyone here, including myself, has said he should not be tried, and if convicted, sentenced to whatever the judge says. You make it seem like everyone wants to let him go. Do you always try to obfuscate so much? Nothing else to argue?
The point, which you are so pointedly ignoring, is if the military is breaking the law by punishing (abusing) Manning pre-conviction. And you continue to ignore this point.
Some simple, undisputed facts that both sides already agree on:
1. UCMJ specifically states you cannot punish someone pre-conviction
2. Manning, while in Quantico, was the *only* prisoner treated as harshly as he was.
3. Military psychologists have said, time and time again, he is not a suicide risk, and is not a threat to hurt himself.
4. The Marines have ignored that, and continued to increase the severity of his treatment (stripped naked at night and for role call), again, Manning is the only one treated this way.
4. He continued to be on POI (prevention of injury) watch - Now how could you do that when the doctors say he isn't a suicide risk?
5. His lawyer has filed a complaint to the base commander (denied) and appealed to SecNav (denied). Note that these aren't lawyers. Again, it's like asking a policeman to investigate police abuse. There is a strong possibility that they won't stop it, and you know it. No military judge has yet heard anything about Manning. Again, it's possible this move was to stop a judicial complaint, like I mentioned above? It's been done before.
Given all of that, your only excuse was that the military wouldn't do anything wrong, and if they did, they would stop it 24 hours.
Your quote:
Abuses can be identified; brought to a judge and ordered corrected inside 24 hours.
BTW, that is utter BS and you know it. If you read his lawyers blog, you would know how incorrect you are. Why do you argue things you don't know? Trivial googling would have found this info.
So given the above facts, no one to date has yet explained why he is treated so severely. It isn't to prevent him hurting himself (see the doctors reports), it can't be to protect him from other inmates (lots of less abusive ways to do that), so what is it? So what else could it be, other then punishment? Again, UCMJ doesn't allow anything more then to get him safely to trial uninjured.
Based on the facts, it looks like abuse. Why else is he singled out. What is your case? Facts please, not the blanket "they wouldn't do it if it was illegal", everyone knows that isn't an argument.
And since you are so into traitors, you ignored my other point. Where is your faux outrage over Ellsberg not being tried for treason? Where is your outrage for all the other anonymous people that leak classified info every month to reporters? I don't see you complaining for them. Double-standard much?
And no comment on werepossum's fact free insult, since he can't argue any facts? That is the second time various trolls couldn't respond to my argument, and throw out homophobic statements and slurs.
So give a logical reason why he is singled out for such harsh treatment before a trail?