Will Anandtech review the HDFury?

[Ultimadark]

Hi

I've been following the development of the HDFury for the last month at www.hdfury.com. In a new statement they say that they are shipping HDFurys to review sites now, and I'm wondering if Anandtech (the only hardware-site I regurlarly visit) are going to review it. I think that you can apply to them at www.hdfury.com if you didnt know this (I would very much want a anandtech review, since I feel kinda insecure in buying this thing without a serious review)

 

[nismotigerwvu]

spam, the canned ham..yum

 

[Puffnstuff]

Ah they're seeding the tech sites hoping for a bite.:roll:

 

[Ultimadark]

Im sorry if you feel that this is spam, if someone would just ask my question I would be happy to delete my post

 

[Captante]

He figured changing his Avatar would throw us off!

 

[Ultimadark]

Lol its not spam....

 

[MercenaryForHire]

'05 with 7 posts, wtflurker :Q

- M4H

 

[Ultimadark]

Last time I posted was when I had some trouble with my computer I visit anandtech regurlarly though

 

[bX510]

LOL sounds like spam to me.

 

[SynthDude2001]

How much is that thing supposed to cost? Last I'd checked, all such devices were prohibitively expensive (as in, several hundred dollars).

 

[Ultimadark]

I think its supposed to be around 120 dollars (this is why I'm interested in it, but also why I feel that it would be best to see a review of it first). However, when I entered the site that took preorders for it, it was gonna cost me around 170 euros with shipping and VAT.

 

[superHARD]

I don't get it, what does it do?...upscale 1080i to 1080p?

 

[Ultimadark]

No. Its not a scaler. It strips away the HDCP protection on, for instance, the output from the PS3. My TV only accepts a 1:1 pixelmapped image on the VGA input, so this would be great for me

 

[bX510]

this sounds very sexy.

 

[jkresh]

it seems kind of silly, since it goes to vga and broadcast flag wont be used for a few years you could already go to vga or component (for the ps3) to bypass hdcp, hdcp is only an issue with digital output. So while this is ok for much older displays is doesn't help if you have a display that can take DVI but is not hdcp compliant. Ie right now if I want to watch an hd-dvd through my pc (and xbox 360 drive) using my 2405fpw I have to either connect through vga or use anydvd hd or something like that, this product would be useless in that example. If it had a dvi output instead of vga it might be worth considering (though it would probably violate the dmca...)

 

[1and1]

Originally posted by: jkresh
it seems kind of silly, since it goes to vga and broadcast flag wont be used for a few years you could already go to vga or component (for the ps3) to bypass hdcp, hdcp is only an issue with digital output. So while this is ok for much older displays is doesn't help if you have a display that can take DVI but is not hdcp compliant. Ie right now if I want to watch an hd-dvd through my pc (and xbox 360 drive) using my 2405fpw I have to either connect through vga or use anydvd hd or something like that, this product would be useless in that example. If it had a dvi output instead of vga it might be worth considering (though it would probably violate the dmca...)

What is looking silly is the type of comments people can do when they know nothing about the subject

To make it clear, this product is adding a DIGITAL HDMI / HDCP input to any RGB display.

You cannot get 1080p from component displayed on your RGB screen because in the world there is may be 5 displays that accept 1080p by component !!
They are all limited to 1080i !!!

Now about the purpose of this device it's quiet easy.

You want 1080p and you have a display technically able to output 1080p such as millions PC screens, millions projector , think about those who paid thousands USD for first HDTV / Plasma, or those who have BARCO/NEC/MARQUEE projector, etc...

They just have 3 choices and nothing else:

- Use their expensive display (not HDCP) with low resolution (they don't want this solution)
- Resell their display, loose lot of money and buy a brand new display. (they don't want this solution because the industry already sold them expensive display technically able to output 1080p, they just don't understand why the ****** they got a black screen when they connect a HDMI source to it)
- Get HDfury and use their display at 1080p and be happy.

Please don't make conclusion too fast when you don't know what you are talking about.

There is MILLIONS displays technically able to support HDMI 720 or 1080p
They just CANNOT be used without HDfury.

 

[Lonyo]

Originally posted by: 1and1

Originally posted by: jkresh
it seems kind of silly, since it goes to vga and broadcast flag wont be used for a few years you could already go to vga or component (for the ps3) to bypass hdcp, hdcp is only an issue with digital output. So while this is ok for much older displays is doesn't help if you have a display that can take DVI but is not hdcp compliant. Ie right now if I want to watch an hd-dvd through my pc (and xbox 360 drive) using my 2405fpw I have to either connect through vga or use anydvd hd or something like that, this product would be useless in that example. If it had a dvi output instead of vga it might be worth considering (though it would probably violate the dmca...)

What is looking silly in the type of comments people can do what they know nothing about.

To make it clear, this product is adding a DIGITAL HDMI / HDCP input to any RGB display.

You cannot get 1080p from component displayed on your RGB screen because in the world there is may be 5 displays that accept 1080p by component !!
They are all limited to 1080i !!!

Now about the purpose of this device it's quiet easy.

You want 1080p and you have a display technically able to output 1080p such as millions PC screens, millions projector , think about those who paid thousands USD for first HDTV / Plasma, or those who have BARCO/NEC/MARQUEE projector, etc...

They just have 3 choices and nothing else:

- Use their expensive display (not HDCP) with low resolution (they don't want this solution)
- Resell their display, loose lot of money and buy a brand new display. (they don't want this solution because the industry already sold them expensive display technically able to output 1080p, they just don't understand why the ****** they got a black screen when they connect a HDMI source to it)
- Get HDfury and use their display at 1080p and be happy.

Please don't make conclusion too fast when you don't know what you are talking about.

There is MILLIONS displays technically able to support HDMI 720 or 1080p
They just CANNOT be used without HDfury.

Now THAT sounds like spam.

 

[1and1]

[/quote]
Now THAT sounds like spam.
[/quote]


SPAM what ?
I came, i read , i comment on wrong beliefs, and all what you can write down is "SPAM" !?

May i ask WHY/HOW come ?

Because actually , a forums/ ongoing discussion, should be all about ARGUMENTS, where are yours ?

It looks like saying "SPAM" is a game for you ?

Can you not write something with good sense ?

I mean, isn't it YOU that actually looks like a SPAM ? because all you can do is post the same answer "it's spam !" when someone is bringing arguments on the table ?

 

[NotQuiteAPCGuru]

Please, everyone. Calm down. There is no reason to get upset or irritated.

A. Everyone has an opinion.
B. Not everyone has an argument.
C. I am disinclined to believe the opinions without an argument or some type of empirical evidence.
D. What you believe is up to you. Don't be offended by someone posting about something you posted about. Be objective and look at everything from an open and professional standpoint.

If two people are debating a point, and the conversation becomes escalated. To the casual passersby; all they see is two idiots, regardless of who is correct.

 

[xylem]

Originally posted by: 1and1

Now THAT sounds like spam.
[/quote]


SPAM what ?
I came, i read , i comment on wrong beliefs, and all what you can write down is "SPAM" !?

May i ask WHY/HOW come ?

Because actually , a forums/ ongoing discussion, should be all about ARGUMENTS, where are yours ?

It looks like saying "SPAM" is a game for you ?

Can you not write something with good sense ?

I mean, isn't it YOU that actually looks like a SPAM ? because all you can do is post the same answer "it's spam !" when someone is bringing arguments on the table ?




[/quote]

I agree. 1and1 may only have N posts, but he contributed what could potentially be useful information for people with older, non-HDCP-compliant display devices.

Is it spam? Maybe, but if you're calling it as such, please elaborate.

 

[1and1]

[/quote]

I agree. 1and1 may only have N posts, but he contributed what could potentially be useful information for people with older, non-HDCP-compliant display devices.

Is it spam? Maybe, but if you're calling it as such, please elaborate.[/quote]

Thanx for your support dude !
I'm just visitor and i've preordered HDfury and i already have Vision FC4 HDCP stripper, so i know what i'm talking about, and i was just giving my view on it.

Finally another argument you people with PS3 and component should consider seriously:

last couple of days, firmware 1.80 for PS3 was released which allow upscalling of DVD, PS1 and PS2 games up to 720p and 1080p BUT THROUGH HDMI only !!

So here again, if your display is not HDMI, HDfury is prolly what u need

 

[JackBurton]

Ok, let's be logical about this. If you are using a PC, just buy a 360 HD-DVD drive, use a FREE ripping tool to rip your movies and watch it on whatever connection you'd like, DVI or VGA (HDCP compliant or not).

If you are watching a movie using an HD-DVD or Blu-Ray player (PS3 included), just use your component cables. Most modern day TVs are progressive, so they can not display an interlaced picture anyway. What they'll do is convert a 1080i picture to 720p or 1080p. So with film and a modern day TVs, movies outputted at 1080i will be displayed at 720p or 1080p. So really, for movies, 1080i=1080p. And seriously, if you have a TV that can display 1080p, you'll most likely have a TV that has at least ONE HDMI connection. My brother with an older 720p DLP and has ONE HDMI connection. And if you do have an older TV that DOESN'T have an HDMI connection, that TV is OLD! I'd recommend just buying a new HDTV and not wasting any more money on an older TV. HDTVs have come a LONG way in the past few years and you can get some great deals on them now.

I just don't see the point to this product now. I'd say it's too little too late.

- Resell their display, loose lot of money and buy a brand new display. (they don't want this solution because the industry already sold them expensive display technically able to output 1080p, they just don't understand why the ****** they got a black screen when they connect a HDMI source to it)

Umm, why would they get a black screen when they connect an HDMI source to it? All HDMI connections are HDCP compliant.

There is MILLIONS displays technically able to support HDMI 720 or 1080p
They just CANNOT be used without HDfury.

Again, why would someone with a display that had an HDMI connection not be able to view 720p or 1080p content without this device?

 

[1and1]

All display sold prior to 2004 ARE NOT HDCP Compliant !!
Even some sold in 2004 ARE NOT HDCP Compliant !!

If you bought a display 4 years ago, you think it's OLD ?

Finally, if you want to extend your knowledge please have a serious read:
http://www.edn.com/article/CA6402885.html
and there:

http://arstechnica.com/articles/paedia/hardware/hdcp-vista.ars

 

[XMan]

Why not just use AnyDVD HD?

 

[1and1]

Originally posted by: XMan
Why not just use AnyDVD HD?

Yes sure, AnyDVD HD is also a solution.

Basically there is 2 solutions, Software lik AnyDVD HD or hardware : HDCP stripper.
Both will work.

If someone is doing all his media stuff through his computer, he may prefer using a software solution (which is prolly cheaper, available for free, but still it's a software and you have to launch it, tweak it, use it everytime, etc..)

But Yes, for PC, AnyDVD HD is a good solution especially for low budget.

For other Hardware like X360 HDMI, PS3, any Blu-ray, HD-DVD, SAT topbox
you came back to earlier choices:

- If your display have component input, you can use this, it will give you 720p, 1080i max
It will not allow you many options such as upscalling DVD , PS1, PS2 games on PS3 for example, but it's "honorable" enough.

- If your display have no component input, you can get it your component through another video converter such X2VGA and at the end you will have 720p, 1080i like first option.

- If your display is technically able to output 720p or 1080p but no HDCP then you can get HDCP stripper such as VISION FC4, CP252 or HDfury, and you will get all HDMI advantage and compliant display to any others HDMI source (where you still need to buy more components cable in previous solution)