Will AOC and her squad help get Trump reelected for POTUS 2020?

Mai72

Lifer
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IMO, it seems that AOC is giving Trump what he wants. Trump is labeling AOC and her squad as unAmerican, an it might be working. An anonymous Dem group just leaked a poll that shows swing voters deepluy dislike AOC and the left. IMO, she's doing a very good job of alienating her group from the majority of Democrats. Trump is going to seize this opportunity and coast in as POTUS for another 4 years.

Dem group leak poll:
https://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-democratic-group-leaked-poll-205906247.html

AOC, the gift that keeps on giving:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aoc-is-the-gift-that-keeps-giving-11563404196
 

dank69

Lifer
Oct 6, 2009
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I hope so. The GOP has been destroying democracy for decades yet muppets like you are constantly searching for any excuse to not vote for Democrats, the only ones standing in the way of them.

It's clearly time for the Democrats to get out of the way and let the GOP finish the job.
 
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IMO, it seems that AOC is giving Trump what he wants. Trump is labeling AOC and her squad as unAmerican, an it might be working. An anonymous Dem group just leaked a poll that shows swing voters deepluy dislike AOC and the left. IMO, she's doing a very good job of alienating her group from the majority of Democrats. Trump is going to seize this opportunity and coast in as POTUS for another 4 years.

Dem group leak poll:
https://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-democratic-group-leaked-poll-205906247.html

AOC, the gift that keeps on giving:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aoc-is-the-gift-that-keeps-giving-11563404196

holy fuck you linked a karl rove opinion piece.
 

ch33zw1z

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Nov 4, 2004
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Trump voters will find any excuse to vote for him. Doesn't matter. Independent voters should carefully review what actions the administration has actually taken while in power. It hasn't been for the good of the country, that's for sure. GOP isn't on the average Americans side.
 
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brycejones

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AOC and her “squad” have radical positions like health care for everyone, don’t be cruel to migrants, climate change is happening and we should do something about it, and finally the most radical position of all: people who work should be able to live a decent life.

If those positions are “anti-American” then what kind of country have we become?
 

zinfamous

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Jul 12, 2006
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AOC and her “squad” have radical positions like health care for everyone, don’t be cruel to migrants, climate change is happening and we should do something about it, and finally the most radical position of all: people who work should be able to live a decent life.

If those positions are “anti-American” then what kind of country have we become?

It's the kind of country that Karl Rove and OP are terrified to have been born in. If only there were a solution....
 
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fskimospy

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Mar 10, 2006
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IMO, it seems that AOC is giving Trump what he wants. Trump is labeling AOC and her squad as unAmerican, an it might be working. An anonymous Dem group just leaked a poll that shows swing voters deepluy dislike AOC and the left. IMO, she's doing a very good job of alienating her group from the majority of Democrats. Trump is going to seize this opportunity and coast in as POTUS for another 4 years.

Dem group leak poll:
https://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-democratic-group-leaked-poll-205906247.html

AOC, the gift that keeps on giving:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aoc-is-the-gift-that-keeps-giving-11563404196

Your post is based on an anonymous poll and a Karl Rove op-ed.

Anonymous polls are 100% worthless because it’s impossible to know what their methodology or target sample was. It’s the same as just literally making numbers up.

It should go without saying as to why someone who lies for Republicans for a living should not be taken seriously.
 

sandorski

No Lifer
Oct 10, 1999
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"We the People" seems where the solution lies. Unfortunately, the People are divided. Who stands to Profit from this division?
 

Bitek

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Your question should be "Trump is doubling down on racism for 2020 as part of his key election strategy, can the Democrats stop him this time?"

So how much do you think America loves racism?
 
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dank69

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Oct 6, 2009
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Trump voters will find any excuse to vote for him. Doesn't matter. Independent voters should carefully review what actions the administration has actually taken while in power. It hasn't been for the good of the country, that's for sure. GOP isn't on the average Americans side.
Roughly 1% of the American population is capable and willing to do that. Everyone else operates on feelings.
 

DrDoug

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According to Hair Furor, he's enjoying this fight with Pelosi and the Squad and hoping to ride it into a 2020 win like he did with Hillary and the "deplorables" line. There he was able to spin Hillary's words into building support for himself by positioning her into an enemy of him and his supporters. He's doing the exact same thing here but this time he's actively setting this one up where last time Hillary gave him the line. He's P.T. Barnum reincarnate, putting on his show and roping in the suckers with his acts.

That's why you like him so much and want him to win again.
 

khon

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Politically I am much closer to the "Squad" than I am to Trump, but I am worried that Trump's tactic of using the "Squad" to create divisions within the left will succeed, and could allow him to win a narrow victory in 2020.

There are people on the left who like to divide by race (identity politics), and people on the right that do the same (white nationalism), and since there are more white voters than minority voters, this is not a winning strategy for the left. Even if you think the left wing version is morally superior, it is still numerically inferior.

The strategy of the left should be a message of unification like MLK, where everyone is in it together regardless of skin color, and there are many people trying to bring that message, but right now it is being drowned out by the message of racial conflict.
 

zinfamous

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In no surprise whatsoever, it appears that Challenger and someone called JockoJohnson are a bit bored to the point of apathy when it comes to child rapists. Doesn't matter, because all that matters is the MAGA!
 

K1052

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The real question is does this do anything to woo back the voters the party shed in 2018? Constant escalating reminders of how truly horrible you are does not seem likely to accomplish that.
 

Moonbeam

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IMO, it seems that AOC is giving Trump what he wants. Trump is labeling AOC and her squad as unAmerican, an it might be working. An anonymous Dem group just leaked a poll that shows swing voters deepluy dislike AOC and the left. IMO, she's doing a very good job of alienating her group from the majority of Democrats. Trump is going to seize this opportunity and coast in as POTUS for another 4 years.

Dem group leak poll:
https://news.yahoo.com/anonymous-democratic-group-leaked-poll-205906247.html

AOC, the gift that keeps on giving:
https://www.wsj.com/articles/aoc-is-the-gift-that-keeps-giving-11563404196
I am not sure what you are feeling here. Are you happy that Trump will coast to victory or are you mad that Democrats are making that possible, in your and some other people's opinion?
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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Politically I am much closer to the "Squad" than I am to Trump, but I am worried that Trump's tactic of using the "Squad" to create divisions within the left will succeed, and could allow him to win a narrow victory in 2020.

There are people on the left who like to divide by race (identity politics), and people on the right that do the same (white nationalism), and since there are more white voters than minority voters, this is not a winning strategy for the left. Even if you think the left wing version is morally superior, it is still numerically inferior.

The strategy of the left should be a message of unification like MLK, where everyone is in it together regardless of skin color, and there are many people trying to bring that message, but right now it is being drowned out by the message of racial conflict.

Exactly. I dislike Trump. I actually voted for Hillary last election. This upcoming election has me deeply worried. Seems the democrats are being pulled apart, which will do nothing but harm our chances. And Trump is following the same path that he took in 2016. I couldn't even watch last nights rally. It was disgusting.
 

Mai72

Lifer
Sep 12, 2012
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I am not sure what you are feeling here. Are you happy that Trump will coast to victory or are you mad that Democrats are making that possible, in your and some other people's opinion?

I hope he loses. My fear is that we are going too far to the left which will alienate many voters from voting for a democratic president. Maybe I'm wrong.
 

umbrella39

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Feigned concern is feigned...

When we have gone so far "left" that Saint Ronald is considered a radical liberal socialist...

Concern that the left is too far left... lmfao

Next...
 

Moonbeam

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I hope he loses. My fear is that we are going too far to the left which will alienate many voters from voting for a democratic president. Maybe I'm wrong.
There are at least two ways to be wrong. One is that there will be damaging movement to the left and that moving to the left would actually be damaging. In my opinion, my focus seems best directed on the nature, the reality, and the origins of any fears I might have in those directions. Worry, I have read, is a means by which we make ourselves unnecessarily sick. We can devote a lot of psychic energy, in my opinion, agonizing over external concerns that are if fact, rooted far in the past and have already happened.
 

hardhat

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Why do people keep bringing up AOC? She isn't running for president, is she? Is she going to take Mitch's place and impose her will over literally a whole branch of our government?

Seriously, she probably wouldn't make it past a primary where I live. Let her do what she wants and have her constituents judge her. She has nothing to do with Trump. Only people with a specific narrative keep bringing her up.
 
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