Will AOC and her squad help get Trump reelected for POTUS 2020?

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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
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Why do people keep bringing up AOC? She isn't running for president, is she? Is she going to take Mitch's place and impose her will over literally a whole branch of our government?

Seriously, she probably wouldn't make it past a primary where I live. Let her do what she wants and have her constituents judge her. She has nothing to do with Trump. Only people with a specific narrative keep bringing her up.
There must always be a Lich King, and the those that hold the leash of Republicans have decided that AOC (and less specifically, any of our less-than-white D representatives) are the new 'face of the Democrats', and are attempting to use her/them as the evil that the populists must get support to fight against. They've done this for decades, it's nothing new, and it'll never end until the Republican party doesn't exist anymore.

They have no policies worth a shit to raise themselves up, so they must attempt to tear down their opponent instead.

As for why her specifically? Because she's intelligent, outspoken, not white, and female. Basically everything that the Republican base hates nowadays, since the party has abandoned any form of actual governance.
 

ivwshane

Lifer
May 15, 2000
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Why do people keep bringing up AOC? She isn't running for president, is she? Is she going to take Mitch's place and impose her will over literally a whole branch of our government?

Seriously, she probably wouldn't make it past a primary where I live. Let her do what she wants and have her constituents judge her. She has nothing to do with Trump. Only people with a specific narrative keep bringing her up.

If you haven't figured it out yet, I'll help; the vast majority of the electorate are idiots. At best they read headlines and Facebook posts, they rarely look into what's actually being said/done.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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If you haven't figured it out yet, I'll help; the vast majority of the electorate are idiots. At best they read headlines and Facebook posts, they rarely look into what's actually being said/done.
Or they watch Fox News which is far worse.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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There must always be a Lich King, and the those that hold the leash of Republicans have decided that AOC (and less specifically, any of our less-than-white D representatives) are the new 'face of the Democrats', and are attempting to use her/them as the evil that the populists must get support to fight against. They've done this for decades, it's nothing new, and it'll never end until the Republican party doesn't exist anymore.

They have no policies worth a shit to raise themselves up, so they must attempt to tear down their opponent instead.

As for why her specifically? Because she's intelligent, outspoken, not white, and female. Basically everything that the Republican base hates nowadays, since the party has abandoned any form of actual governance.
Yep, according to Hannity, AOC is the leader of the House. He calls Pelosi the Speaker in name only.
 
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[DHT]Osiris

Lifer
Dec 15, 2015
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Yep, according to Hannity, AOC is the leader of the House. He calls Pelosi the Speaker in name only.
The day that man ends his career cannot come soon enough.

TBH at this point I wish someone really rich would just buy fox, the whole company, and dissolve it. Sink the whole ship in one go.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Why do people keep bringing up AOC? She isn't running for president, is she? Is she going to take Mitch's place and impose her will over literally a whole branch of our government?

Seriously, she probably wouldn't make it past a primary where I live. Let her do what she wants and have her constituents judge her. She has nothing to do with Trump. Only people with a specific narrative keep bringing her up.

She's the straw man opponent of the GOP spin machine.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
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The day that man ends his career cannot come soon enough.

TBH at this point I wish someone really rich would just buy fox, the whole company, and dissolve it. Sink the whole ship in one go.
You can thank Saint Reagan for vetoing the reinstatement of the Fairness Doctrine.
 

UNCjigga

Lifer
Dec 12, 2000
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I really don't see how any of this is the "Squad's" fault--President hits at them on Twitter and they hit back, NBD.

I think if you want to blame someone for boosting Trump, blame the media for wasting news cycles and talking heads on "was this racist? Is Trump a racist? Can Pelosi call Trump a racist? Did Omar really support Al Qaeda?" That just fires up his base and helps them ignore issues like "wow, what did that judge just unseal today in that Cohen campaign finance violation case?"
 
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khon

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Feigned concern is feigned...

When we have gone so far "left" that Saint Ronald is considered a radical liberal socialist...

Concern that the left is too far left... lmfao

Next...

My concern is not that we have gone to far left, my concern is that some on the left have started to embrace divisive language, and that is not a winning strategy for the left.

In terms of policy the left is doing a fine job at the moment, and that's where the focus should remain.
 

soundforbjt

Lifer
Feb 15, 2002
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I really don't see how any of this is the "Squad's" fault--President hits at them on Twitter and they hit back, NBD.

I think if you want to blame someone for boosting Trump, blame the media for wasting news cycles and talking heads on "was this racist? Is Trump a racist? Can Pelosi call Trump a racist? Did Omar really support Al Qaeda?" That just fires up his base and helps them ignore issues like "wow, what did that judge just unseal today in that Cohen campaign finance violation case?"
I agree, if Trump wins a second term it will be because the media gives him far too much attention. Ignore him and devote that time to showcasing the Democratic candidates platforms/ideas would be the best course of action. Trump does this crap to dominate the news and control the narrative, whether good or bad.
 

Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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AOC is not the problem. AOC is the solution.

Trump knows that but doesn't want a solution.. because then people don't hate.
 

dainthomas

Lifer
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Your question should be "Trump is doubling down on racism for 2020 as part of his key election strategy, can the Democrats stop him this time?"

So how much do you think America loves racism?

Every time POC protest racism, the right become outraged at the protesters. Every. Single. Time. And Dump's poll numbers go up every time he says something racist.

So I'd say the right loves it a lot.
 

brycejones

Lifer
Oct 18, 2005
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Every time POC protest racism, the right become outraged at the protesters. Every. Single. Time. And Dump's poll numbers go up every time he says something racist.

So I'd say the right loves it a lot.

He is just being truthful in the face of “political correctness”.

Unfortunately not sarcasm for his base.
 

trenchfoot

Lifer
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I really don't see how any of this is the "Squad's" fault--President hits at them on Twitter and they hit back, NBD.

I think if you want to blame someone for boosting Trump, blame the media for wasting news cycles and talking heads on "was this racist? Is Trump a racist? Can Pelosi call Trump a racist? Did Omar really support Al Qaeda?" That just fires up his base and helps them ignore issues like "wow, what did that judge just unseal today in that Cohen campaign finance violation case?"


Although I agree with what you've posted, IMO, it needs to be emphasized that Trump's base should not be the target audience of the Dem's efforts to have Trump voters switch sides or switch back to voting Dem. It's the independents and undecided's that really need to be convinced to, if not vote Dem and the platform they promote, then at the least vote against Trump on principle.
 
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soundforbjt

Lifer
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Although I agree with what you've posted, IMO, it needs to be emphasized that Trump's base should not be the target audience of the Dem's efforts to have Trump voters switch sides or switch back to voting Dem. It's the independents and undecided's that really need to be convinced to, if not vote Dem and the platform they promote, then at the least vote against Trump on principle.
And the millions of Obama voters that stayed home because they didn't like HRC or felt Bernie got a raw deal..
 
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IronWing

No Lifer
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I hope he loses. My fear is that we are going too far to the left which will alienate many voters from voting for a democratic president. Maybe I'm wrong.
When the Dems move left, they win. When they offer milquetoast conservatives, they lose. Clinton was too far right to inspire the Dem base so they sat out the 2016 election. When the Dems moved left in 2018, they made fantastic gains in the face of Republican gerrymandering.
 
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Feigned concern is feigned...

When we have gone so far "left" that Saint Ronald is considered a radical liberal socialist...

Concern that the left is too far left... lmfao

Next...

"LOL Trump is running for president?!"

"Okay, he is running - but he will never be the nominee"

"Okay, he is the nominee, but he will never win the election".


You just keep telling yourself these things lol. I have my popcorn ready for 2020.
 

umbrella39

Lifer
Jun 11, 2004
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One has nothing to do with the other...

The "left" didn't elect this fuck nor did the "left" move too far to the left and such = TRUMP

... if anything the "left" is what the right used to be 20 years ago... When you only move one set of goalposts the other side seems like they have moved further to the other side. Nothing could be further from reality in year 2019...

Nope, the right is RIGHT where it wants to be... RIGHT back in 1960...
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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And the millions of Obama voters that stayed home because they didn't like HRC or felt Bernie got a raw deal..

She got slimed. She was the most progressive Dem nominee in our lifetimes.

The crookedest person to ever run for President rode in on the "Crooked Hillary!" slogan. I never imagined that so many Americans could be as fucked in the head as there apparently are.
 

Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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"LOL Trump is running for president?!"

"Okay, he is running - but he will never be the nominee"

"Okay, he is the nominee, but he will never win the election".


You just keep telling yourself these things lol. I have my popcorn ready for 2020.

He's the greatest con artist our society has ever produced & he's got your number.
 
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Indus

Lifer
May 11, 2002
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"LOL Trump is running for president?!"

"Okay, he is running - but he will never be the nominee"

"Okay, he is the nominee, but he will never win the election".


You just keep telling yourself these things lol. I have my popcorn ready for 2020.

If you wanna blame anyone.. blame the media..

one image is worth a 1000 words



It doesn't matter what the headline is: 'Send her back!' chant shows Trump's ugly plan to get reelected "

And I think media makes society forget "violent" > "just talking".

For example talking about wanting social healthcare and college education is more evil than violent right wing thugs!

We've lost our minds over in America.
 
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Jhhnn

IN MEMORIAM
Nov 11, 1999
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Tell them they're being attacked! It works the same in any Country.
 
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