will balistix work well with fx-53

alb1221

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I am buying a new amd system with the fx-53

and a socket 939 mobo: http://www.newegg.com/app/viewproductdesc.asp?description=13-127-181&DEPA=1


and I was told the memory was great by somebody on this board as well as several others.. here is thebalistix recommendeded and purchased by me
http://www.crucial.com/ballistix/store/PartSpecs.asp?imodule=BL6464Z505&cat=

it seems to fit my mobos requirements perfectly and work very well on 64 bits but my friend who has worked for verizon and emachines says it isint the best memory and I choose wrong... will this memory scream on my fx-53 on a socket 939.. (the one I posted a link too) will it even run well on an fx-53 at all

here is the memory specifications for that motherboard

CPU Integrated Dual Channel Memory Controller
- Four 184-pin DIMM sockets (Un-buffered Non-ECC DIMM)
- Supports Dual Channel DDR 400/333/266 (Max. 4GB)

thx in advance for any advice,

I actually already have the stuff shipped to my house (its all still in its boxes im on vacation) so hopefully I wont have to make any returns


alb
 

Sonic587

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That RAM is way more than you'll possibly ever need. It's great stuff. A chunk of change, sure, but it's high quality nevertheless. What does your friend suggest you get?
 

wfbberzerker

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any quality pc4000 ram will run fine on your rig, you dont need "premium" memory to get the best performance.
 

alb1221

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for some reason he said this would have worked much better on my fx-53 socket-939 system (make sure you check links on above post to see if he is right or wrong)

eUpHoRiC SEACOW: what is the best memory for fx-53
IceL0gic: corsair
IceL0gic: ecc registered
IceL0gic: pc 3200
IceL0gic: latency 3-3


again thx
 

alb1221

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is what I got better or worse then what he recommended for my mobo/cpu does anybody know? this is the first pc I have built

I dont even think my mobo supports the memory he suggested...
 

wfbberzerker

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woah woah woah... you definitely don't need ECC (or registered memory). ECC memory is error correcting, and not only is it slower and more expensive than regular non-ecc ram, but you don't need it unless you're running a server (where data integrity is important). as for the brand, its really up to you, but the following brands are generally acceptable: kingston, mushkin, crucial, corsair (a few others have been recommended, those are all i can think of). latency isn't a hugely important thing you need to pay attention to, but generally, lower = faster. as for the speed... lemme check the fx-53... pc3200 should be fine.

just remember - memory is not something you want to break the bank on in order to get the best performance. you're much better suited spending the extra cash on a faster/larger hard drive, or better video card, and buying, say, 1 gig of mushkin pc3200 ram.
 

alb1221

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im getting 4 sticks of 512 pc-4000 dimm ballistix ddr dimm (overkill I know but I do alot of multitaskin so i want it to run perfectly with my processor/mobo and im worried it wont

no need to upgrade vid card im just yanking my 9700 pro from my cranky old dell

im just concerned that my memory wont work well with my mobo/cpu
 

undyingpayne

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I just bought some PC4000 to go with my AMD 3500.

I'll tell you though, Ballistix PC3200 will be much much better for your system than the ram your friend is suggesting. Ballistix PC4000 will also be good, but if you're not overclocking.. the 3200 would be better. Unless you bring down the speed on the 3200 and give it tighter timings.

Though it is quite expensive
 

alb1221

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will it work well with fx-53 and the that abit mobo I link to in my original post, some guy said nay (tech bud of mine) though he could be full of it
 

Zebo

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My tech friend, Anand, says it's the best possible memory you can buy for A64 systems.

"Crucial seems to be pleasing Enthusiasts in many areas these days, and we are honored to award Crucial Ballistix 3200 the Gold Editors Choice for Best Performance in the DDR400 2-2-2 roundup. Crucial Ballistix is the first memory that we have tested to achieve consistent, stable DDR timings of 2.5-2-2 at DDR500, in addition to the incredible range of usable timings at the most aggressive 2-2-2 timings. In the range from DDR400 to DDR514, Crucial Ballistix was clearly the fastest memory in the roundup. Crucial Ballistix was also a winner in being the only memory in the roundup that achieved the same impressive performance on the Socket 939 Athlon 64 as it achieved on the Intel 478 platform."

http://www.anandtech.com/printarticle.aspx?i=2145
 

KpocAlypse

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Originally posted by: alb1221
will it work well with fx-53 and the that abit mobo I link to in my original post, some guy said nay (tech bud of mine) though he could be full of it

Work yes, but (await verfication from the masses) i think the Ballistix 512 sticks are double banked. Now according to the Abit manual, with 4 DIMMs installed, it runs at 333mhz, not 400mhz. Which i could have swore that it was stated somewhere that it didn't make much of a difference between 333 and 400, but dunno. I'm a noob when it comes to the KT800.

Either way, spending the $$$ to run 4 sticks of Ballistix at 333 sounds abit odd..
 

alb1221

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so will it slow down my machine to have 4 512 pc-4000 balistix in there?? the money is already spent


does my mobo support to voltage requirments of 4 sticks of ddr500 pc-4000 ballistix 512


I have the 420watt power supply that comes with the xaser III at newegg.. should I get a better cooling solution or return some of the memory or should it all work out fine?

thanks for all the help
 
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Well, I would recommend upgrading your PSU.

Also, I don't know why your friend would recommend memory that is slower in every proportion, even the latency was higher on the RAM he recommended.

I would ignore his recommendations, because he's showing that he doesn't quite know what he's talking about.
 

imported_whatever

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your friend was thinking about the (relatively old now) socket 940 fx53, which does need registered ecc ram. however, the socket 939 ends up being a bit faster because of no ecc and is much cheaper to build, again because of the ram not being ecc.
 

Wahsapa

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two 1 gig sticks of regular pc3200 would have been fine

your friend is confused, he doesnt know about socket 939 if he thinks you have to have ECC ram.
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Remember, with 4 dimms installed the memory setting switches to 2t timings which has showed to slow performance down by 10-15% so I would do what Wahsapa suggests above and get two 1gig dimms at PC3200 for 2gig and keep the 1t memory timings and not get 4 512 dimms.

Also, Wahsapa is right about the memory and 939. Your friend is confusing the 940 server/workstation chipset that came out first supporting Opeterons and registered dimms only (not necessarily ECC but have to be registered) but then AMD released the 939 processor and corresponding chipsets came out which are basically the same things as the 940 but do not require registered dimms (which are often slower and more utilized for reliability and error control than blazing speeds and overclcocks) but uses the same dimms that the P4 chipsets use.

Also don't buy the FX-53 but spend an extra 20 bucks and get the FX-55 which is 200mghrtz faster and gets you better overclocks due to strained silicon. With a good aftermarket heatsink you should be able to get to 2800 with only a little voltage increase
 

Demo24

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WHY are you buying that motherboard when your buying such and expensive CPU? I really dont think 20 more bucks will hurt you. get the MSI k8n neo2 plat. better overall than a ABIt with a VIA chipset
 

imported_michaelpatrick33

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Originally posted by: DEMO24
WHY are you buying that motherboard when your buying such and expensive CPU? I really dont think 20 more bucks will hurt you. get the MSI k8n neo2 plat. better overall than a ABIt with a VIA chipset


and why not get the FX-55 at this point for so little more money you get 200mghrtz more and better overclocking
 
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