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pcgeek11

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I would have to say that at this point anyone associated with Trump has LONG since lost the benefit of the doubt when it comes to if they are lying or not.

It's always possible what they allege is true but things coming from the Trump camp should be assumed to be lies until shown otherwise.

I think the allegation was brought by her alleged lover's soon to be ex-wife. Is she associated with Trump or his camp?
 

NWRMidnight

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What a cluster. They needed to have an airtight case, none of this is a good luck.

You do realize this is all coming from the prosecutor's "wife" who he has been separated from for 2 years, and are currently going thru a divorce. The "evidence" is supposedly from bank statements, ones that are from 6 months to a year after they separated.

Now ask yourself this: how would bank statements show who the money was spent on, and how would the "wife" have access to those bank statements? Most separations include separating finances, including separate bank accounts.

So, it's only a bad look for those who don't have any critical thinking skills.
 

brycejones

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Xcobra

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Okay, You have no facts. Got It.

As I said before who Fani is screwing has no bearing on anything but possibly her morals and that dudes divorce case.

Yawn...
Oh fuck off, you disingenuous dickwad. Whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty?' Oh, right... She's brown... Fucker.
 
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Moonbeam

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In my opinion this will be like Benghazi, Huge effort to make something out of nothing for political purposes having nothing to do with anything but the filthy politics Republicans play. Next up, Willis is a transgender male who became a woman to avail himself of an all female only affirmative action scholarship to law school.
 

eelw

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As per the NYT 7% of Biden’s voters in 2020 voted for Trump in 2016. That may not sound like a lot but they essentially count twice as they are one fewer vote for Trump and one more for Biden. Ignore this at your peril!

Which is moot since he somehow got 12 million more to still vote for him offsetting the defections. Again new voters made the difference
 

fskimospy

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Which is moot since he somehow got 12 million more to still vote for him offsetting the defections. Again new voters made the difference
Yes, Trump’s strategy was to edit: motivate his base, and it was effective! The only problem with a base motivation strategy is it motivated the other guys’ base too while turning off independent voters who defect to the other guy and then you lose, haha. It doesn’t help to gain a voter if you just gain the other guy one too! If Trump had kept that 7% he would have won. Biden had the best of both worlds - Trump moronically motivated Biden’s base for him so he could concentrate on persuadeable voters.

‘There are no persuadeable voters’ is an attractive theory because it means there is no need to moderate your policy views on anything as it won’t matter. It’s not true though.
 

Greenman

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In my opinion this will be like Benghazi, Huge effort to make something out of nothing for political purposes having nothing to do with anything but the filthy politics Republicans play. Next up, Willis is a transgender male who became a woman to avail himself of an all female only affirmative action scholarship to law school.
A criminal trial is a lot different than a media trial. If the defense can prove the prosecution was using the trial for personal gain it's going to get messy, and it taints the entire process. If, and so far it's still an "if", Ms. Fani is involved with her hired hand, she should have kept a distance until the proceeding was finished, or disclosed it right at the start.
Right now it looks cheesy, and it didn't need to. That's a major tactical error.
 
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fskimospy

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A criminal trial is a lot different than a media trial. If the defense can prove the prosecution was using the trial for personal gain it's going to get messy, and it taints the entire process. If, and so far it's still an "if", Ms. Fani is involved with her hired hand, she should have kept a distance until the proceeding was finished, or disclosed it right at the start.
Right now it looks cheesy, and it didn't need to. That's a major tactical error.
So if a jury decided something what do you think?
 

HomerJS

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A criminal trial is a lot different than a media trial. If the defense can prove the prosecution was using the trial for personal gain it's going to get messy, and it taints the entire process. If, and so far it's still an "if", Ms. Fani is involved with her hired hand, she should have kept a distance until the proceeding was finished, or disclosed it right at the start.
Right now it looks cheesy, and it didn't need to. That's a major tactical error.
Is there any evidence the lawyer Fani hired didn’t do his job?

Was there a broken law or rule?

If not what is the problem? Appearances? We already know Republicans don’t give a shit about appearances.

To bring court action plaintiff must have standing. How does the ex-wife have standing?
 

Moonbeam

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A criminal trial is a lot different than a media trial. If the defense can prove the prosecution was using the trial for personal gain it's going to get messy, and it taints the entire process. If, and so far it's still an "if", Ms. Fani is involved with her hired hand, she should have kept a distance until the proceeding was finished, or disclosed it right at the start.
Right now it looks cheesy, and it didn't need to. That's a major tactical error.
As a liberal who thinks like a conservative and therefore based on my gut instincts, I am sticking with my opinion that this MS. Fani thingi is criminally conjured bull shit, an wild swing at trying to get her thrown off the case or build some horse shit basis for an appeal.
 

interchange

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As a liberal who thinks like a conservative and therefore based on my gut instincts, I am sticking with my opinion that this MS. Fani thingi is criminally conjured bull shit, an wild swing at trying to get her thrown off the case or build some horse shit basis for an appeal.

I think Trump cares about getting elected a whole lot more than winning in court. People who support him often do so because they identify with his victim role.
 

FirNaTine

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Is there any evidence the lawyer Fani hired didn’t do his job?

Was there a broken law or rule?

If not what is the problem? Appearances? We already know Republicans don’t give a shit about appearances.

To bring court action plaintiff must have standing. How does the ex-wife have standing?
She’s not his ex yet, Wade is still married though has been separated from her for a bit. They’re actively going through divorce proceedings now.
 

Moonbeam

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I think Trump cares about getting elected a whole lot more than winning in court. People who support him often do so because they identify with his victim role.
I am not sure how to respond to your statement for a couple of reasons. The attempt, without evidence, to impugn Willis in some sort of job related corruption was not done by Trump, but by a fellow alleged conspirator, Mike Roman. The opinion I expressed was directed at him.

But, leaving that aside, I am not sure how to evaluate your statement. I see Trump as a person whose fear of failure is so great that he lives in a completely delusional state, one in which he is actively playing the role of a prosecutor in a perpetual role of the hero who dolls out retribution for all the wrongs done to him.

I see his appeal as one that resonates with the feeling of victimization we all feel for having been made into victims ourselves by being put down as children as worthless. What I see as his attraction to people is their own lust to get even they are too emotionally unable to express. He is a representative of the disease they long to be, the very thing they came to fear and now calls to them to join in getting even.

So, in my opinion Trumps mental illness is so profound and complete any and all slights to his ego, losing in court, losing an election, losing a golf match are all the same, they will be met with maximum resistance, maximum retribution and absolute denial. He is a victim that has mastered the art of getting even. Trump is a role, a gold toilet, a front, a pretense of greatness born from utter self contempt.

I guess it would be fair to say hey caring more or less about different issues that he has priorities. But I bet he sees a criminal conviction as a potential threat to getting re-elected.
 

Moonbeam

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A detailed analysis of the legal issues involved and why there is nothing there:


In sexually repressed racist sexist America you can be slimed if you are a Black professional woman who also is sexually active. Such icky types should never be allowed to prosecute white people. No inferior people should have that right.

All judgments rendered are the result of the victimization that arises when a democracy tries to take seriously the notion that we are all equal in the eyes of the law. Where could such an insane notion have come from. It’s an affront to real American’s dignity.
 

pcgeek11

Lifer
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Oh fuck off, you disingenuous dickwad. Whatever happened to 'innocent until proven guilty?' Oh, right... She's brown... Fucker.

Speaking of being disingenupous...

I didn't make any proclamation of her guilt or innocence. You need to learn how to read and understand words.

As I stated in my original post:

First I don't know if these allegations are true and don't really care who she decides to go to bed with. It shouldn't have any impact with the Trump Proceedings.

Do you have some evidence that these are lies other than your opinion?
 
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