Will i5 2500k keep pace with PS4/Xbox720 CPU?

[futurefields]

Hey guys, do you think I will have to upgrade my CPU to play the "next gen" PS4/Xbox720 games on my computer or will a GPU update suffice?

Current rig

i5 2500k@ 4.0ghz
Sapphire HD6850 1gb GDDR5
8 GB G.Skill DDR3-1600
@ 1080p

Danke,

 

[ShintaiDK]

The 2500K is much faster than the PS4 CPU. With your OC it might even be twice as fast.

Just wait and see. The PS4 aint even out yet.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Hey guys, do you think I will have to upgrade my CPU to play the "next gen" PS4/Xbox720 games on my computer or will a GPU update suffice?

Current rig

i5 2500k@ 4.0ghz
Sapphire HD6850 1gb GDDR5
8 GB G.Skill DDR3-1600
@ 1080p

Danke,

Well, if your cpu is inadequate at that clockspeed, we are all screwed, because there is not that much on the horizon that is really any faster, unless Haswell proves to be a super overclocker.

Seriously though, I think it should be more than adequate. The only weakness is lack of more cores or hyperthreading, but I would think when they port console games to the PC, they would optimize them for less and faster cores instead of 8 slow cores.

 

[SPBHM]

in terms of pure CPU performance the 2500k destroys the 8 core 1.6GHz Jaguar CPU (much lower clock and IPC),
but it all depends on the level of optimization, so in reality I don't know if 4 years from now the 2500k will have problems to keep up with the console ports, but it's possible I think.

Core 2 Duos should also be much faster than the X360 CPU, but, in some games that's not the case.

 

[loccothan]

just pick HD 7970 GHz ED and you'll be just fine, but u'll have to Upgrade your Rig for FX 8350 cuz upcoming Games will be Optimized for Modular AMD Builds and that is for sure 8/6 cores is the current minimum for Playing Games on UE4.... so FX 8350 8GB RAM and 7970 GHz on Sabertooth 990FX or Maximus --->

 

[SPBHM]

I can't believe someone would recommend the 8350 as an upgrade to a 4GHz sandy bridge when it comes to gaming.

 

[Maximilian]

just pick HD 7970 GHz ED and you'll be just fine, but u'll have to Upgrade your Rig for FX 8350 cuz upcoming Games will be Optimized for Modular AMD Builds and that is for sure 8/6 cores is the current minimum for Playing Games on UE4.... so FX 8350 8GB RAM and 7970 GHz on Sabertooth 990FX or Maximus --->

BS :|

 

[2is]

just pick HD 7970 GHz ED and you'll be just fine, but u'll have to Upgrade your Rig for FX 8350 cuz upcoming Games will be Optimized for Modular AMD Builds and that is for sure 8/6 cores is the current minimum for Playing Games on UE4.... so FX 8350 8GB RAM and 7970 GHz on Sabertooth 990FX or Maximus --->

Lol... Funny guy

 

[jpiniero]

It really depends on how well games can utilize the compute power of the GPUs in HSA mode. It's possible that 2-3 years down the line you would need the CPU to have the compute power similar to the PS4's 7970M, which basically doesn't exist right now.

 

[ShintaiDK]

It really depends on how well games can utilize the compute power of the GPUs in HSA mode. It's possible that 2-3 years down the line you would need the CPU to have the compute power similar to the PS4's 7970M, which basically doesn't exist right now.

Its not a 7970M. And you can do the same on a discrete card for now. Not to mention HSA is still a dream without anything.

 

[frozentundra123456]

Its not a 7970M. And you can do the same on a discrete card for now. Not to mention HSA is still a dream without anything.

Plus even if (and it is a big if) HSA takes off, I seriously doubt when they port a game to the PC that they would make it run poorly on the 75% of the computers that have intel processors or force someone to buy a new cpu to play the game.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I can't believe someone would recommend the 8350 as an upgrade to a 4GHz sandy bridge when it comes to gaming.

Where do these new posters come from? Seems to be a constant influx with an agenda to promote.

 

[Arachnotronic]

frozentundra123456,

There has been an unusual amount of activity from individuals trying to pump AMD's stock on stock market message boards. I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to spread their agendas on the enthusiast hardware forums as well.

 

[2is]

It really depends on how well games can utilize the compute power of the GPUs in HSA mode. It's possible that 2-3 years down the line you would need the CPU to have the compute power similar to the PS4's 7970M, which basically doesn't exist right now.

We have discrete GPUs which far more compute power, and we have them now.

 

[NTMBK]

frozentundra123456,

There has been an unusual amount of activity from individuals trying to pump AMD's stock on stock market message boards. I wouldn't be surprised if they're trying to spread their agendas on the enthusiast hardware forums as well.

First, anyone who advocates any AMD product must be an AMD shill. Now, they must own AMD stock. :hmm:

 

[ghost03]

Agreed with others that 4 GHz 2500k isn't going to be improved upon much.

As far as HSA mattering, it's possible, but I wouldn't worry about it. Basically, HSA allows you to use the GPU to process things in system memory without the overhead of transferring the data. If a game were to be totally dependent on this, then yeah, it'd be a problem on a conventional system as that data transfer would kill frame rates. That said, you can do whatever the GPU was going to do with the CPU, just, slower. It'd take longer, but you're probably not going to offload a majority percentage of the workload to the GPU anyway.

TL;DR? You're most likely OK with a 2500k for a while, but who knows in this industry.

 

[grimpr]

First, anyone who advocates any AMD product must be an AMD shill. Now, they must own AMD stock. :hmm:

From the looks of it, our friend Ashraf is a financial speculator and stock market trader, dont ask why he attacks AMD, its pretty obvious.

 

[Arachnotronic]

First, anyone who advocates any AMD product must be an AMD shill. Now, they must own AMD stock. :hmm:

AMD's graphics cards are great, and I think what they're doing with Never Settle is wonderful. However, when people start claiming that their CPUs are going to magically dethrone Intel's thanks to a game console design win, despite a relatively anemic (and shrinking) R&D budget, and at least a process node behind, I have to raise my eyebrows. Luckily for gaming, it's the GPU that counts, and I don't see AMD's advantage there eroding against Intel in any really mainstream products until at least Broadwell.

In the low power space, AMD is actually doing some interesting things with "Jaguar"...I am looking forward to seeing AMD and Intel duke it out in the Windows 8 tablet space. Current "Clover Trail" and "Z-60" parts from both Intel and AMD aren't quite there yet (Intel's on performance, AMD on power consumption).

 

[frozentundra123456]

First, anyone who advocates any AMD product must be an AMD shill. Now, they must own AMD stock. :hmm:

Did I mention anything about amd stock or financials in my post? Believe it or not I hope amd survives, and I am using an amd graphics card. So I would advocate an amd product for a purpose for which I think it best meets my criteria of price/performance/power usage.

 

[jpiniero]

We have discrete GPUs which far more compute power, and we have them now.

Yes, but it's not as useful because you need direct access to the system memory, and the bandwidth to support it. Neither of which exist today.

 

[Arachnotronic]

Did I mention anything about amd stock or financials in my post? Believe it or not I hope amd survives, and I am using an amd graphics card. So I would advocate an amd product for a purpose for which I think it best meets my criteria of price/performance/power usage.

It was I who mentioned stocks, frozentundra123456. I hope AMD survives, too. I think they will, but they won't be the same company that we know today. It will be much more of an embedded design house rather than a major force that really competes with Intel in the PC space.

I am glad, though, that they're "all in" on graphics. The tech they put out there is really good, and my experience with the 78xx cards in builds I've done for friends has been nothing short of positive.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Yes, but it's not as useful because you need direct access to the system memory, and the bandwidth to support it. Neither of which exist today.

So why would HSA matter then? In your context you say it wont be useful for any discrete card. So now we are down to what? <5% of the gaming market?

Also PC gaming is expanding, the same cant be said for consoles.

 

[2timer]

Interesting thread. :thumbsup:

 

[tweakboy]

Your 2500k OCed a bit is much much faster then xbunks 720 or ps4

 

[Pilum]

Plus even if (and it is a big if) HSA takes off, I seriously doubt when they port a game to the PC that they would make it run poorly on the 75% of the computers that have intel processors or force someone to buy a new cpu to play the game.

There are no HSA systems in the market. Even when they're introduced, given AMDs current marketshare, it will take several years for HSA-enabled systems to make up even 10% of the installed base. And even that is not enough to justify adding some HSA features to a software title, unless AMD pays for that... with the money they don't have.

HSA is completely irrelevant to anything PC. Embedded is different, but also of little to no concern for PC enthusiasts like us.