Will it be worth it to buy a Skylake i3?

[piasabird]

I think if you look at skylake reviews you will see they also improved the IGP.

I purchased an i-3 4330 almost 2 years ago. It has a faster clock rate than an i-5 solely based on Megahertz (at the time), it was rated with a lower wattage rating, and it had 4 Megs of L3 Cache RAM, and had the HD4600 graphics. It is a good running CPU, but I dont do any gaming on it.

I bought it because I wanted a nice CPU to watch videos on the Internet. You figure you may want to have like 3-10 windows open at once so you want something a little more powerful. I could not really tell much difference from my 2500k downstairs in the basement that doesnt have a video card either.

I am using mine on a Gigabyte Z??N-Wifi Motherboard and streaming from my Wireless n router downstairs in the basement to the first floor. Works great.

I think if you look at skylake reviews you will see they also improved the IGP.

 

[DrMrLordX]

You just made yurimans point,except for heavily unoptimized code like 7-zip and x264 or rendering (so basically only rendering) is pretty much "in almost all cases" .

Since when was 7-zip heavily unoptimized? Have you looked at the source for the most recent Windows builds?

Also, OP, we'll find out exactly what will be revealed on Sept. 1st so I'd rather defer to that date than try to remember exactly when Skylake i3 will launch, though I've heard a few people say that the locked skylake-s quads will be Sept 1st and that i3s, pentiums, etc. will come later on Q1 2016 or Q4 2015. I don't want that to be true, but wanting it doesn't mean anything.

 

[TheELF]

Since when was 7-zip heavily unoptimized? Have you looked at the source for the most recent Windows builds?

You dont't have to look at the source,just run it with more threads than default gives you, on a strong core, and it will give you more speed this happens with 7-zip and x264 because both are not the best code wise.

Try the same with cinebench or any other benchmark than can fully utilize a modern core and you will not see any improvement.

 

[Sweepr]

Since when was 7-zip heavily unoptimized? Have you looked at the source for the most recent Windows builds?

Also, OP, we'll find out exactly what will be revealed on Sept. 1st so I'd rather defer to that date than try to remember exactly when Skylake i3 will launch, though I've heard a few people say that the locked skylake-s quads will be Sept 1st and that i3s, pentiums, etc. will come later on Q1 2016 or Q4 2015. I don't want that to be true, but wanting it doesn't mean anything.

Locked quads will launch in early September (next week). Core i3 and Pentium September 1st in Asia and late September everywhere else.

 

[Absolute0]

Echoing some earlier sentiments RE Skylake i3: unlocked BLCK is big news here, taking budget chips and just cranking them up has always been best bang for the buck.

 

[jpiniero]

Echoing some earlier sentiments RE Skylake i3: unlocked BLCK is big news here, taking budget chips and just cranking them up has always been best bang for the buck.

I have seen nothing that suggests that the unlocked BCLK will be for anything other than the K/C models AND you'd need a Z170 board.

 

[Yuriman]

I have seen nothing that suggests that the unlocked BCLK will be for anything other than the K/C models AND you'd need a Z170 board.

BCLK is unlocked on all previous chips; the problem is that other things are tied to BCLK and raising it too much causes things like data corruption. Intel would have to intentionally lock it where it was unlocked before, which they may well do.

 

[Absolute0]

Yes, BLCK unlocked by default and it's more work for Intel go start locking it now.

I do believe it needs a Z170 board... but cheap-ish ones are available and cheaper ones will be around. Pair with a low-clocked i3 and $20 Hyper 212 fan and you got some big bang for the buck.

Even better once some decent, cheaper DDR4 kits come out - then you can put that BLCK to use with overclocked mem.

HMM sounds fun.

 

[StrangerGuy]

Yes, BLCK unlocked by default and it's more work for Intel go start locking it now.

I do believe it needs a Z170 board... but cheap-ish ones are available and cheaper ones will be around. Pair with a low-clocked i3 and $20 Hyper 212 fan and you got some big bang for the buck.

Even better once some decent, cheaper DDR4 kits come out - then you can put that BLCK to use with overclocked mem.

HMM sounds fun.

If there's a 4GHz 2C/4T Skylake for $110...even without an overclock it will already be a winner. It would match a stock 2500K in MT and surpass it in ST with far less power on a much better platform.

 

[DrMrLordX]

You dont't have to look at the source,just run it with more threads than default gives you, on a strong core, and it will give you more speed this happens with 7-zip and x264 because both are not the best code wise.

Try the same with cinebench or any other benchmark than can fully utilize a modern core and you will not see any improvement.

That's contrary to what Anandtech has said about the bench in the recent past. They go on about how well-optimized it is, saying that it will run faster than even some archive programs that make use of OpenCL. If you look at the source, you will see that some of the code is in ASM. The idea that Cinebench is well-optimized is a bit silly.

BCLK is unlocked on all previous chips; the problem is that other things are tied to BCLK and raising it too much causes things like data corruption. Intel would have to intentionally lock it where it was unlocked before, which they may well do.

There needs to be some clarification here. On LGA1150, bclk is unlocked as you say. You can also use bclk straps to default to a different bclk without throwing other subsystems out of whack (which is what prevents people from running, say, 106 mhz bclk or higher). The straps are non-functional except for k CPUs, and I'm pretty sure you don't see the straps on anything but Z87 and Z97 boards. Probably.

So when people talk about unlocked bclk for Skylake, it could mean anything. It could mean that you require a board that supports bclk straps (which will probably require Z170 or *maybe* H170) and a CPU that supports it, too (namely, a k CPU). Or maybe they implemented locks on everything bclk-dependent, allowing free use of custom bclk speeds, which will only require UEFI support from the motherboard OEMs. Or maybe something else entirely. Until we see the locked CPUs in action and get someone to test things out for us, we won't know. Or maybe one of us will just have to do it by ourselves.

If there's a 4GHz 2C/4T Skylake for $110...even without an overclock it will already be a winner. It would match a stock 2500K in MT and surpass it in ST with far less power on a much better platform.

I doubt Intel would sell an i3 with that clockspeed for such a low price. But hey, that would be great.

 

[ryrynz]

If there's a 4GHz 2C/4T Skylake for $110...even without an overclock it will already be a winner. It would match a stock 2500K in MT and surpass it in ST with far less power on a much better platform.

Nor so sure about it matching multi threaded performance overall. Could be some give and take depending on the code.

 

[mohit9206]

Skylake i3 should be powerful and good for gaming but starting price will be $130 with gt2 graphics.
It makes the A8-7600 at $83.50(newegg) much better value for money with true quad core cpu and much more powerful igpu for gaming.
Now it is upto you to decide if its worth spending extra $50 for i3.

 

[TheELF]

The A8-7600 is much closer to the g3258 when both are at stock, loosing at many of the benches(by a landslide in some) and only wining at some multithreaded software,only the IGPU is much better but still by far not enough for good gaming.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1265?vs=1270 vs 7600
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1265?vs=1464 vs 7650k
Look at the end of the page (7650k) to see gaming with high end cards to see how close they are.

Yes,if you are going to use a decent dedicated vga the $50 more for a i3 are very well worth it.

 

[mohit9206]

The A8-7600 is much closer to the g3258 when both are at stock, loosing at many of the benches(by a landslide in some) and only wining at some multithreaded software,only the IGPU is much better but still by far not enough for good gaming.
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1265?vs=1270 vs 7600
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1265?vs=1464 vs 7650k
Look at the end of the page (7650k) to see gaming with high end cards to see how close they are.

Yes,if you are going to use a decent dedicated vga the $50 more for a i3 are very well worth it.

If someone will only use igp then A8-7600 will be great choice upto 1080p medium settings.
If someone will use mid to high end discrete graphics then i guess the i3 is better. But then we have cpu like fx6300 and fx8320 compete with the i3.

 

[TheELF]

If someone will only use igp then A8-7600 will be great choice upto 1080p medium settings.
If someone will use mid to high end discrete graphics then i guess the i3 is better. But then we have cpu like fx6300 and fx8320 compete with the i3.

Those are benches with the g3258,if you want to look up benches between the i3 and the fx-8xxx be my guest,in most games the fx still looses.

 

[PC_]

did they even anounce skylake i3s?

 

[SPBHM]

did they even anounce skylake i3s?

they have a few on the list
http://anandtech.com/show/9582/intel-skylake-mobile-desktop-launch-architecture-analysis/8

3.7GHz Skylake replaces 3.5GHz Haswell at the same price as the cheapest I think (i3 6100, current i3 4150)

 

[Madpacket]

Intel delibetatley released a patch to disable the Pentium Anniversary edition CPU's on Windows 10. Who really thinks they'll allow for cheap i3 over clocking?

 

[Jubassi]

Yeah it will definatly worth its pretty powerful

 

[dark zero]

Intel delibetatley released a patch to disable the Pentium Anniversary edition CPU's on Windows 10. Who really thinks they'll allow for cheap i3 over clocking?

Consequences of being the monopoly....

 

[Phynaz]

Intel delibetatley released a patch to disable the Pentium Anniversary edition CPU's on Windows 10. Who really thinks they'll allow for cheap i3 over clocking?

BS. They all overclock fine on the proper platform.

 

[ShintaiDK]

Intel delibetatley released a patch to disable the Pentium Anniversary edition CPU's on Windows 10. Who really thinks they'll allow for cheap i3 over clocking?

Wrong.

 

[TeknoBug]

Intel delibetatley released a patch to disable the Pentium Anniversary edition CPU's on Windows 10. Who really thinks they'll allow for cheap i3 over clocking?

They work when set to stock clock, it's when they were overclocked the microcode caused them to not boot into Windows.

 

[sm625]

The i3-6320 is a 3.9GHz chip. What a mean little beast. With that much raw speed, combined with hyperthreading, you're going to be able to push 4 threads quite easily. That little chip will be faster than the vast majority of true quadcores in use today. The base model i3 is still 3.7GHz. This is plenty of power. Look at the base clocks on the cheapest skylake i5. I wouldnt be surprised if games actually ran worse on it.

 

[Arachnotronic]

The i3-6320 is a 3.9GHz chip. What a mean little beast. With that much raw speed, combined with hyperthreading, you're going to be able to push 4 threads quite easily. That little chip will be faster than the vast majority of true quadcores in use today. The base model i3 is still 3.7GHz. This is plenty of power.

It does look like a solid chip indeed. Looking forward to recommending it to friends in need of affordable, powerful gaming processors :thumbsup: