Will science ever wipe out organized religion?

[ForumMaster]

this was discussed in South Park episodes 10-12 and 10-13

we won't fight about religon but as to what to call ourselves!

 

[3NF]

The religion of the future is science. Give it time - religion will soon die out on its own as more people become educated and as access to information becomes readily available (well, it almost is now with the internet).

Years ago, people only knew what was told to them (or brainwashed) by their families and churches. Today, less and less people are part of organized religion and it will eventually die out. Religion served its purpose - it's now time to move on and make the "heaven" we are capable of here on Earth.

 

[Madwand1]

As long as people can come up with ignorant nonsense hypotheticals as the OP did for this thread, there will be products of imagination. There was a long thread on this recently.

http://forums.anandtech.com/messageview...adid=2006166&STARTPAGE=3&enterthread=y

 

[Hyperblaze]

Originally posted by: 3NF
The religion of the future is science. Give it time - religion will soon die out on its own as more people become educated and as access to information becomes readily available (well, it almost is now with the internet).

Years ago, people only knew what was told to them (or brainwashed) by their families and churches. Today, less and less people are part of organized religion and it will eventually die out. Religion served its purpose - it's now time to move on and make the "heaven" we are capable of here on Earth.

you have no idea wtf religion is. I weep for the ignorance of folks.

 

[RichardE]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: 3NF
The religion of the future is science. Give it time - religion will soon die out on its own as more people become educated and as access to information becomes readily available (well, it almost is now with the internet).

Years ago, people only knew what was told to them (or brainwashed) by their families and churches. Today, less and less people are part of organized religion and it will eventually die out. Religion served its purpose - it's now time to move on and make the "heaven" we are capable of here on Earth.

you have no idea wtf religion is. I weep for the ignorance of folks.

Religion is faith. Eventually faith will be entirely in science. As science continues to disprove religion, religion in invisible deities will vanish.

 

[JulesMaximus]

Originally posted by: Leros
No, the majority of people in the world are stupid. Not saying all religious people are stupid, but most stupid people are religious.

Free free to disagree.

:thumbsup:

 

[Abel007]

No, the day religion is gone is the day the world will end. People simply need to have faith in SOMETHING. Without that then people will no longer have the desire to live.

 

[Fritzo]

It's possible. Religion is used to explain things that we do not understand. If we understand everything...we'd become gods ourselves.

How about that?

 

[GalvanizedYankee]

There will always be organized religion. Man needs to believe in something. Some believe in 'The Force' others believe in having another drink and these people will embrace shared belief to form a fellowship, call it a church if you will.
Man needs to believe and he needs to serve...Choose wisely.

 

[her209]

Originally posted by: Abel007
No, the day religion is gone is the day the world will end.

WTF?

People simply need to have faith in SOMETHING. Without that then people will no longer have the desire to live.

People will have faith in science.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: 3NF
The religion of the future is science. Give it time - religion will soon die out on its own as more people become educated and as access to information becomes readily available (well, it almost is now with the internet).

Years ago, people only knew what was told to them (or brainwashed) by their families and churches. Today, less and less people are part of organized religion and it will eventually die out. Religion served its purpose - it's now time to move on and make the "heaven" we are capable of here on Earth.

you have no idea wtf religion is. I weep for the ignorance of folks.

I would rather put my faith into fellow human beings, which are perfectly capable of creating a "heaven" here on Earth if we just simply wake up. Putting faith into something which is not real - that is ignorant!

 

[GagHalfrunt]

Nah, weak people who won't take responsibility for their own lives will always need to invent some great cosmic muffin in the sky. What will happen with religion isn't that it will disappear, but merely evolve. Now that science has punctured the true BS of Christianity something else will arise to take its place just as "modern" religions evolved to do away with worshipping Zeus, Apollo or Thor. The next generation of religions will just have to be more careful when crafting their backstory. The people that invented the current religions were uneducated fools who had no idea that science would come along and disprove all their myths. So the next generation will be even more nebulous about the origins of life, the ccreation of the universe or anything else that science could eventually come along and skewer.

 

[Greenman]

Originally posted by: 3NF

Originally posted by: Hyperblaze

Originally posted by: 3NF
The religion of the future is science. Give it time - religion will soon die out on its own as more people become educated and as access to information becomes readily available (well, it almost is now with the internet).

Years ago, people only knew what was told to them (or brainwashed) by their families and churches. Today, less and less people are part of organized religion and it will eventually die out. Religion served its purpose - it's now time to move on and make the "heaven" we are capable of here on Earth.

you have no idea wtf religion is. I weep for the ignorance of folks.

I would rather put my faith into fellow human beings, which are perfectly capable of creating a "heaven" here on Earth if we just simply wake up. Putting faith into something which is not real - that is ignorant!

LOL!!! I thought this was just going to be another "we're so superior to those other stupid people" thread, then you come along and drop that bomb. Bless your black flabby little heart.

Edit: Just have to add that most of you are pretty funny. You know all the answers and anyone that doesn't agree with you is stupid. In your own way you're just as close minded as all those poor dumb people you hate.

 

[Brainonska511]

What's wrong with science and religion co-existing? The world doesn't need your hatred of people's beliefs.

 

[Kristi2k]

Science only further proves my faith and belief in God. Science, humans, solar system and the eco system are so intricate designed and dependant on each other it's impossible to just evolve from something so simple to something so complex.

All of you say that science disproves God, please explain your findings.

 

[Midlander]

Originally posted by: 3NF
Today, less and less people are part of organized religion.

Do you have an authoritative source for this statement or is it just your opinion?

 

[Midlander]

From Wikipedia (not the best source, but the data seem reasonable):

The populations in the world's religions:

1. Christianity 2.1 billion
2. Islam 1.3 billion
3. Non-Adherent (Secular/Atheist/Irreligious/Agnostic/Nontheist) 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism 900 million
5. Chinese folk religion 394 million
6. Buddhism 376 million
7. Primal indigenous ("Pagan") 300 million
8. African traditional and diasporic 100 million
9. Sikhism 23 million
10. Juche 19 million
11. Spiritism 15 million
12. Judaism 14 million
13. Bahá'í Faith 7 million
14. Jehovah's Witnesses 6.5 million
15. Jainism 4.2 million
16. Shinto 4 million
17. Cao Dai 4 million
18. Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
19. Tenrikyo 2 million
20. Neo-Paganism 1 million
21. Unitarian Universalism 800,000
22. Rastafari movement 600,000

This totals to more than the world population, but some people claim to be part of more than one religion.

Also here are growth values:

1990-2000

* 2.65% - Zoroastrianism
* 2.28% - Bahá'í Faith
* 2.13% - Islam
* 1.87% - Sikhism
* 1.69% - Hinduism
* 1.36% - Christianity
* 1.09% - Buddhism

(the annual growth in the world population over the same period is 1.41%)

I guess it was just your opinion.

 

[Martin]

Originally posted by: irishScott
Obviously the concept of a god can never be wiped out, but what about the more corporeal parts of some religions?

IE: Let's say we finally figure out EXACTLY how the brain works... and there is no sign of a "soul". Then what?

I actually like the example of explaining conciousness, because as far as that goes we are in the state biology was before Darwin: we see something complex that we have no explanation for, so 'god' becomes the default answer.

If someone comes up with a theory of the conciousness, and fully explains it in natural terms and even simulates it on a computer (AI), then you'll just see a repeat of evolution:
- A lot of people will cease to believe in a soul or god.
- most will try to compromise by tacking on a god. For example, evolution is fully capable of explaining the development of life without a god, but most people choose to add something vague and unfalsifiable like "god is guiding the process" to make themselves feel nice. The same thing will likely happen with any theory of conciousness.
- a significant portion will deny the whole thing, kind of like 40% of Americans think people were created by god in the last 10000 years. These people are beyond hope.

 

[thehstrybean]

Originally posted by: KLin
You post a flamebait topic but don't want any flaming. Right. :roll:

Yep. OP, what a dumb idea. This is going to go nowhere fast.

 

[StormRider]

No. You have to wipe out love in order to rid the world of religion.

 

[StormRider]

Originally posted by: Martin

Originally posted by: irishScott
Obviously the concept of a god can never be wiped out, but what about the more corporeal parts of some religions?

IE: Let's say we finally figure out EXACTLY how the brain works... and there is no sign of a "soul". Then what?

I actually like the example of explaining conciousness, because as far as that goes we are in the state biology was before Darwin: we see something complex that we have no explanation for, so 'god' becomes the default answer.

If someone comes up with a theory of the conciousness, and fully explains it in natural terms and even simulates it on a computer (AI), then you'll just see a repeat of evolution:
- A lot of people will cease to believe in a soul or god.
- most will try to compromise by tacking on a god. For example, evolution is fully capable of explaining the development of life without a god, but most people choose to add something vague and unfalsifiable like "god is guiding the process" to make themselves feel nice. The same thing will likely happen with any theory of conciousness.
- a significant portion will deny the whole thing, kind of like 40% of Americans think people were created by god in the last 10000 years. These people are beyond hope.

For me, I don't understand why people think evolution and the existence of God run counter to each other.

I can write a computer program to simulate a world where the "people" evolve through evolutionary principles. From the "people's" standpoint, evolution is true but I am their "God" since I created everything in their world.

 

[kindest]

in a perfect world, yes. in ours, no.

 

[imported_vr6]

yes, but it will take a very very long time.

considering how we laugh at the religious beliefs of ancient civilizations it is safe to say that one day in the distant future the people there will look back at us and do the same thing.

 

[Vic]

Why would science wipe out organized religion? Where is the conflict? Do the science faithful gather together on a weekly science day to pray to and worship the scientific method? Does science answer the emotional questions that people want?

If I were looking for stupid, I need look no further than some of the small-minded answers in this thread. Science and religion are 2 totally different things. If science ever wiped out religion, that could only be because science became a religion, and that would be a terrible thing.

Originally posted by: Brainonska511
What's wrong with science and religion co-existing? The world doesn't need your hatred of people's beliefs.

It's not just hatred. They're hypocrites. They worship science as a religion.

 

[3NF]

Originally posted by: Midlander
From Wikipedia (not the best source, but the data seem reasonable):

The populations in the world's religions:

1. Christianity 2.1 billion
2. Islam 1.3 billion
3. Non-Adherent (Secular/Atheist/Irreligious/Agnostic/Nontheist) 1.1 billion
4. Hinduism 900 million
5. Chinese folk religion 394 million
6. Buddhism 376 million
7. Primal indigenous ("Pagan") 300 million
8. African traditional and diasporic 100 million
9. Sikhism 23 million
10. Juche 19 million
11. Spiritism 15 million
12. Judaism 14 million
13. Bahá'í Faith 7 million
14. Jehovah's Witnesses 6.5 million
15. Jainism 4.2 million
16. Shinto 4 million
17. Cao Dai 4 million
18. Zoroastrianism 2.6 million
19. Tenrikyo 2 million
20. Neo-Paganism 1 million
21. Unitarian Universalism 800,000
22. Rastafari movement 600,000

This totals to more than the world population, but some people claim to be part of more than one religion.

Also here are growth values:

1990-2000

* 2.65% - Zoroastrianism
* 2.28% - Bahá'í Faith
* 2.13% - Islam
* 1.87% - Sikhism
* 1.69% - Hinduism
* 1.36% - Christianity
* 1.09% - Buddhism

(the annual growth in the world population over the same period is 1.41%)

I guess it was just your opinion.

It's fact - I don't know what the heck you're looking at.