Will someone please explain to me why The Godfather is considered to be so good?

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Fingolfin269

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As for Godfather, I absolutely love 1&2.

It's also interesting to me that people confuse the Godfather with Scarface. I think Scarface is an abomination relative to The Godfather and don't understand why it is held in such high regard.
 

shortylickens

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I just watched it this past fall, and while I agree is a darn fine movie, I cant understand why so many people get bent out of shape over it. We've had better movies since, Shawshank Redemption comes to mind.
 

zinfamous

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I just watched it this past fall, and while I agree is a darn fine movie, I cant understand why so many people get bent out of shape over it. We've had better movies since, Shawshank Redemption comes to mind.

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gah, nevermind.
 

Pens1566

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Going out on a limb that most of the responses not liking it are younger and more conditioned to Michael Bay films. Also already mentioned, ADD.
 

shortylickens

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Metasnobbery. It's snobbery towards your lower class of snobbery.

The Godfather is mere kitsch unlike the fine art of noble Shakespearean tragedy and Starship Troopers.

The movie or the book?
Cuz the book is so fucking awesome that our average lazy, spoiled, libtard, self-centered ATOT member would not even be able to fucking comprehend it.
 

thegimp03

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I am borderline Gen X/Y and love The Godfather I & II films. I saw them before I saw Goodfellas, Casino, or shows like The Sopranos.

I could see how if someone saw Goodfellas and The Sopranos before seeing The Godfather movies and expected them to be the same pace, they might be disappointed.
 

shortylickens

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I am borderline Gen X/Y and love The Godfather I & II films. I saw them before I saw Goodfellas, Casino, or shows like The Sopranos.

I could see how if someone saw Goodfellas and The Sopranos before seeing The Godfather movies and expected them to be the same pace, they might be disappointed.

I saw Casino first, many years later Goodfellas, never saw Sopranos, and only just recently watched the first two Godfathers.

I liked Casino best, and still do.
 

yllus

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I think the thing about 'The Godfather' that makes it so great is that it was one of the first movies ever to present a realistic look into what it is like to be in the mafia. It is an epic movie spanning decades and the cast was incredible for its time.

If you want to check out some other mafia flicks go rent 'Goodfellas', it is one of my all time favorite mafia movies, 'Casino' is another great.

From what I've gathered, that's not really true. In fact, its more the opposite. The film influenced the mafia more than the mafia influenced it. Before it, the mafia was more paranoid assholes that would fuck each other over and had little resemblance of what people think of as far as ideals or things like that, and they adopted much of that later when pop culture portrayed it. It also glosses over a lot of the real day to day crime aspects, and as such makes it pretty unrealistic.

Personally I'm not really into mob or crime shows/movies, so I've never been that high on the Godfather films. I can see the quality, and for their time they certainly did set a pretty high note (I can't think of any mob movies that compare, and just roll my eyes at films like The Departed; Goodfellas is about the only other mob movie that I found all that entertaining; Casino was ok but aside from a couple of scenes it was actually annoying to me as there's too much Sharon Stone being psycho and other silliness), but it just doesn't really interest me much.

No, I believe JulesMaximus is correct. Vanity Fair has a terrific and extremely long article about the making of The Godfather that fills in all of the details for those of us who, er, weren't quite around yet.

Vanity Fair - The Godfather Wars

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Brando had created a physical look for Don Corleone, but for his brooding character he turned to Al Lettieri, who was cast as Sollozzo, the drug-dealing, double-crossing upstart. Lettieri hadn’t had to study the Mob to get into his part; one of his relatives was a member. Brando had met Lettieri while preparing for his Oscar-winning role as Terry Malloy in On the Waterfront.

According to Peter Manso in his biography of Brando, it was through Lettieri that he had gotten a lot of what he put into the “I could have been a contender” scene. “It was sort of based on Al’s [relative], a Mafioso who once put a gun to Al’s head, saying, ‘You’ve gotta get off smack. When you’re on dope you talk too much, and we’re going to have to kill you.’ For Marlon the story was like street literature, something to absorb.”

In preparation for The Godfather, Lettieri took Brando to his relative’s house in New Jersey for a family dinner, “to get the flavor,” says Lettieri’s ex-wife, Jan. In addition, “Francis had sent a lot of tapes from the Kefauver Committee hearings, so Brando had been hearing how these real Mafia dons talked,” remembers Fred Roos. Soon Brando had the voice of Don Corleone. “Powerful people don’t need to shout,” he later explained.

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Other members of the cast became equally fascinated by the Mob. “Tom Hagen was like a Secret Service guy,” Robert Duvall says to describe his role as Don Corleone’s consigliere. “There was a guy up in Harlem who was one of the big guys up there. And a friend of mine, who had a small part in the movie, knew him. He told me how there was a guy that kind of waited on him like a high-powered gofer. You know, he’d light his cigarette and hold his chair. My friend took me to a luncheonette, where they’d run numbers,” Duvall continues. “I’d go up there and study these guys. And my friend would say, ‘Don’t stare too hard. They’ll think you’re queer.’”

James Caan had an easier time establishing the character of Sonny. “What fucking transformation?” he asks as we sit in his Beverly Hills home beneath a large framed photograph of the Corleones. “Obviously, I grew up in the neighborhood.” He adopted the strut and copied the way he’d seen gangsters always touching themselves, and he bought two-toned shoes that gave Sonny his lady-killer gait. “I didn’t have to work on an accent or anything, but I couldn’t quite get a grasp,” he says.

He was stuck on the scene where Sonny interrupts the Don during the meeting about going into the drug business with Sollozzo. One night he tried to come up with a solution. “I was shaving to go to dinner or something, and for some reason I started thinking of Don Rickles. Because I knew Rickles. Somebody was watching over me and gave me this thing: being Rickles, kind of say-anything, do-anything.”
 

slayer202

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No, I believe JulesMaximus is correct. Vanity Fair has a terrific and extremely long article about the making of The Godfather that fills in all of the details for those of us who, er, weren't quite around yet.

Vanity Fair - The Godfather Wars

actors picking up some real life influenced pieces from all different places to add to their already written roles and stories is a far cry from saying the movie accurately portrays the mob...do I really need to point that out?
 

thegimp03

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Vanity Fair has a terrific and extremely long article about the making of The Godfather that fills in all of the details for those of us who, er, weren't quite around yet.

Whoa, you weren't kidding. ~17 pages printed.
 

zinfamous

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The movie or the book?
Cuz the book is so fucking awesome that our average lazy, spoiled, libtard, self-centered ATOT member would not even be able to fucking comprehend it.

I don't get it. I thought libtards were the ones that could read?

 

zinfamous

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No, I believe JulesMaximus is correct. Vanity Fair has a terrific and extremely long article about the making of The Godfather that fills in all of the details for those of us who, er, weren't quite around yet.

Vanity Fair - The Godfather Wars

all of that does is make the characters authentic.

Everything about the Mob--the business, the lifestyle, how they live--everything in the Godfather, is pure fantasy.

No one denies this.

They are some of the greatest films anywhere, The characters the acting, everything is spectacular. It doesn't matter that it is all myth, but it is.
 

Perknose

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actors picking up some real life influenced pieces from all different places to add to their already written roles and stories is a far cry from saying the movie accurately portrays the mob...do I really need to point that out?

No, you really don't, because it's not in any way, shape, or form the entirety or even the main part of the argument that The Godfather accurately portrays the mob.

Nice straw man argument on your part, though.
 

Cerb

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OK...uh, sorry for watching it after it was 50+ years old, without a clue as to any of its history but a little common pop culture knowledge of Orson Welles, and that the main character was a modeled after Hearst...? I'm not a historian, nor a film student.
 

Born2bwire

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OK...uh, sorry for watching it after it was 50+ years old, without a clue as to any of its history but a little common pop culture knowledge of Orson Welles, and that the main character was a modeled after Hearst...? I'm not a historian, nor a film student.

It's ok. We'll still judge you.
 
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