6 months of free COBRA. How many republicans are going to change their mind on employer healthcare after taking that benefit?
6 months of free COBRA. How many republicans are going to change their mind on employer healthcare after taking that benefit?
No it's not an accurate representation of what im saying.
I'm saying that tax reformation was created in the mind and thoughts of reforming our tax system as it relates to our tax payers. Specifically during a time that doesn't have a global pandemic.
This 3rd stimulus bill is targeted specifically to those effected by a global pandemic.
Why in the living Fuck would you compare those 2 things as if they are equal or something that SHOULD be compared?
The logical comparison if anything would at minimal to be to compare this to the first stimulus bill - The CARES act.
This is statistics and data analysis 101. You compare like to like. Why do I have to explain this to grown adults?
Christ just shows how much we REALLY need to reform our shithole education.
This would be quite the extra stimulus.
'Biden is trying to get people to vote for him by improving their lives' may not be the sick burn you think it is, lol.Buying votes - one moron at a time that can't understand the complexities of paying back debt and not getting a degree in basket weaving or gender studies.
'Biden is trying to get people to vote for him by improving their lives' may not be the sick burn you think it is, lol.
Despite her best intentions and her description of her plan as “progressive,” in fact, the bulk of the benefits from Sen. Warren’s proposal would go to the top 40% of households because they have the bulk of the loans. Borrowers with advanced degrees represent 27% of borrowers, and would get 37% of the benefit.
Newsflash Dr. Dipshit - Forgiving student loans disproportionately helps the upper middle-class lol.
I know facts are hard for you to wrap your head around sometimes.
But hey - let's go ahead and continue to act like you're helping the poor and oppressed lol.
What’s funny is that the real argument against student loan forgiveness is it helps higher incomes more than lower incomes.
Jesus man, just join a scat fetish group if you enjoy getting shit on so much.Newsflash Dr. Dipshit - Forgiving student loans disproportionately helps the upper middle-class lol.
I know facts are hard for you to wrap your head around sometimes.
But hey - let's go ahead and continue to act like you're helping the poor and oppressed lol.
Who owes all that student debt? And who’d benefit if it were forgiven? | Brookings
Adam Looney, David Wessel, and Kadija Yilla explain the severity of America’s student loan challenge, the rate of default, and candidates’ proposals for forgiving those debts.www.brookings.edu
I sold Bibles to keep my student debt low. Turns out, I didn't even need that degree.
Substantial student loan forgiveness does a disservice to Americans who saw through myth of a credential\u00a0as the only way to economic achievement.www.usatoday.com
Ownage of the year worthy. Bravo!Jesus man, just join a scat fetish group if you enjoy getting shit on so much.
My post was making fun of you saying Biden was 'buying votes', which is of course the same as saying Biden is trying to get those people to vote for him by improving their lives. This was not a complicated thought.
What is the opposite of progressives. Fucking retards... retardlol fucking toolbag progressives.
CA Proposition 13 and mortgage interest deduction improve the lives of some but has consequences for others. Same here. I have no idea why you link that thread with the quote if you think saying pols are "buying votes" is silly.
Uh, he linked it because "someone" called him a dipshit for allegedly not realizing that student loan forgiveness benefits higher income people disproportionately, but he had already said that himself.
So far as "buying votes," that is a separate issue from which group is and is not benefitting. The notion that because a policy benefits all people, or some people, is "buying votes" is kind of silly. Politicians are always "buying votes" when doing things to improve people's lives, right?
He was responding to this: "'Biden is trying to get people to vote for him by improving their lives' may not be the sick burn you think it is, lol. "
And then fski proceeds to link a quote that shows he too thinks that argument is good against that policy. So even he thinks it isn't as simple as "It helps improve the lives of some, so therefore policy is good".
Yes, that's true but when fixating on a politician "buying votes", the point is that they care about that and not the policy implications. That's why you get crap like rent control.
A very large proportion of modern politics is electing to spend money to make the lives of certain segments of the population better. All of this could be described as ‘buying votes’ but the entire term is stupid as it applies to almost everything, which was of course my point. Maxima has something in common with the guy I responded to in that neither are exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.The entire discussion of "buying votes," in most situations anyway, is pointless. The only question is whether it is good policy or not good policy. "Buying votes" versus "doing good" is a question of motives. Motives can never be strictly known, and in the end, they don't really matter. Because it's irrelevant if an elected official does the right thing for "wrong reasons."
Student loan forgiveness generally benefits middle to upper middle glass college graduates, rather than poor people. That doesn't make it bad policy.
Don't college educated people mostly vote democrat anyway? Seems like a dumb place to "buy votes".The entire discussion of "buying votes," in most situations anyway, is pointless. The only question is whether it is good policy or not good policy. "Buying votes" versus "doing good" is a question of motives. Motives can never be strictly known, and in the end, they don't really matter. Because it's irrelevant if an elected official does the right thing for "wrong reasons."
Student loan forgiveness generally benefits middle to upper middle glass college graduates, rather than poor people. That doesn't make it bad policy.
The entire discussion of "buying votes," in most situations anyway, is pointless. The only question is whether it is good policy or not good policy. "Buying votes" versus "doing good" is a question of motives. Motives can never be strictly known, and in the end, they don't really matter. Because it's irrelevant if an elected official does the right thing for "wrong reasons."
Student loan forgiveness generally benefits middle to upper middle glass college graduates, rather than poor people. That doesn't make it bad policy.
The problem is we aren’t making those investments for the most part, so if the choice is between forgiveness and nothing, forgiveness is clearly superior.
A very large proportion of modern politics is electing to spend money to make the lives of certain segments of the population better. All of this could be described as ‘buying votes’ but the entire term is stupid as it applies to almost everything, which was of course my point. Maxima has something in common with the guy I responded to in that neither are exactly the sharpest tools in the shed.
Don't college educated people mostly vote democrat anyway? Seems like a dumb place to "buy votes".
I have no idea what this inane babbling has to do with my point or how you got to these bizarre conclusions but thank you for validating my decision to generally not respond to the stupid shit you write.What makes you think it isn't bad policy? It makes a mockery out of doing all these dozens of targeted programs. Democrats also still ignoring all the minorities who got little aid because they weren't working during pandemic or going to school....
“Overall, we find balance forgiveness to be a highly regressive policy; the top decile would receive as much as the bottom three deciles combined,” said Catherine. “Instead, we propose to enroll more people in IDR, which is an option people do not use enough.” A “more progressive” policy — where more of the benefits of loan forgiveness accrue to the middle class — would be to expand income-driven repayment (IDR) plans that link payments to income, the authors stated.
What happened to Manchin always following through on the important stuff? FYI, pretty obvious that there isn't just two options since you could make it more targeted.
I agree, price controls like rent control and prop 13 (which is basically rent control) just encourage bad behavior and help make things worse. There may be some case I'm not thinking of but at the moment I can't think of any historical examples of price controls working well - it seems to be basically a political move that's not intended to actually fix the problem.
Yes, and now prop 13 becomes a generational entitlement. Again, personal charity is admirable but that system which allows you to do this is inflicting mass suffering. Are you okay with that? It’s the same with nonsensical rent control in NYC. Get a rent controlled apartment passed down to you from grandma? You get to pay $500/month for a $5,000 apartment. Everyone else of your income? Screwed.
I want to make it so everyone has a chance at decent housing, not the privileged few.
You keep proving it, haha. You don't get it because you think politicians should indulge whatever demands to entrench privilege or emotional and ignorant opinions of the public. If that was their job, you are advocating for pure democracy. The whole point of saying it is that they are not concerned about policy implication. You would think that the politician is implementing a policy because they figure that it is fair and beneficial to society not just based on what I said about voters above.
Why? Democrat voter enthusiasm matters, too.
Don't college educated people mostly vote democrat anyway? Seems like a dumb place to "buy votes".
Do you think it should be done even without reforms that would prevent a similar situation from happening again?In Biden's case, I don't think buying votes is really the intent. I think he sees that although the college educated are overall better off than those without degrees, many people struggle to repay those loans, especially those who could not achieve the income they expected. Biden is trying to benefit a wide swath of people between the stimulus bill, the infrastructure bill, and these kinds of targeted measures.
For the record, I support loan forgiveness at the $10K level only, as a one off. I definitely wouldn't go as high as $50K.