Will you buy Modern Combat 2 for $60-$65 on the PC

[shortylickens]

Thats the problem with spending assload of money to make games. You need to charge a lot to recoup expenses. The problem is, as prices go up, sales go down.
The fact people are talking about boycotting the game before its even out means companies should reconsider how they make games these days. One bad title can easily put you out of business.

Once again, I blame the console lovers. They demand better graphics every year and refuse to spend money on anything less. Production costs go up, price goes up. Eventually it affects everyone.
The fact they are actually willing to spend 60 bucks a pop doesnt help matters either. That just encourages publishers to charge high prices.
And I agree about the inflation issue. If Windows games are going for 60 dollars, you can bet the console people will be getting screwed.

I miss the NES days.

 

[Piuc2020]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Thats the problem with spending assload of money to make games. You need to charge a lot to recoup expenses. The problem is, as prices go up, sales go down.
The fact people are talking about boycotting the game before its even out means companies should reconsider how they make games these days. One bad title can easily put you out of business.

Once again, I blame the console lovers. They demand better graphics every year and refuse to spend money on anything less. Production costs go up, price goes up. Eventually it affects everyone.
The fact they are actually willing to spend 60 bucks a pop doesnt help matters either. That just encourages publishers to charge high prices.
And I agree about the inflation issue. If Windows games are going for 60 dollars, you can bet the console people will be getting screwed.

I miss the NES days.

Actually, games during the NES/SNES era and for the N64 were grossly overpriced and much more expensive than they are now.

 

[JD50]

I'll wait for it to go on sale on Steam or D2D. I very rarely pay full price for a game.

 

[JD50]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Thats the problem with spending assload of money to make games. You need to charge a lot to recoup expenses. The problem is, as prices go up, sales go down.
The fact people are talking about boycotting the game before its even out means companies should reconsider how they make games these days. One bad title can easily put you out of business.

Once again, I blame the console lovers. They demand better graphics every year and refuse to spend money on anything less. Production costs go up, price goes up. Eventually it affects everyone.
The fact they are actually willing to spend 60 bucks a pop doesnt help matters either. That just encourages publishers to charge high prices.
And I agree about the inflation issue. If Windows games are going for 60 dollars, you can bet the console people will be getting screwed.

I miss the NES days.

Actually, games during the NES/SNES era and for the N64 were grossly overpriced and much more expensive than they are now.

True, but the volume of sales has to be many times more now than what it was back then.

 

[Farmer]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Thats the problem with spending assload of money to market games.

There, I fixed it for you.

 

[RyanPaulShaffer]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
One of the biggest reasons devs site for moving away from the PC is because of lower profits. A mix of pirating, less user base, and other things can be blamed for it but it's no mystery that there's more money in the consoles. This is just a way to get some more money flowing from the PC crowd. While it costs a bit more initially for each gamer, it could spark more interest in PC gaming again if profits are boosted.

Now a bunch of you cheap f***s boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Your post needs a disclaimer:

"This post has been paid for by Activision."

Gotta love how you blame the fall of PC gaming completely on the consumer. Yup, there are no other factors involved...the "cheap" consumer is entirely to blame!

:roll:

 

[Slick5150]

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: gorcorps
One of the biggest reasons devs site for moving away from the PC is because of lower profits. A mix of pirating, less user base, and other things can be blamed for it but it's no mystery that there's more money in the consoles. This is just a way to get some more money flowing from the PC crowd. While it costs a bit more initially for each gamer, it could spark more interest in PC gaming again if profits are boosted.

Now a bunch of you cheap f***s boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Your post needs a disclaimer:

"This post has been paid for by Activision."

Gotta love how you blame the fall of PC gaming completely on the consumer. Yup, there are no other factors involved...the "cheap" consumer is entirely to blame!

:roll:

Well, I certainly wouldn't say that the "fall of PC gaming" is completely on the consumer, but I think he does make a valid point. The solution to getting stronger PC support is not to boycott buying anything.

I guess I can understand the price hike. The same amount of R&D goes into putting the PC versino together as it does the console version, so why the price difference? Now if you want to argue that NO game should be above $50, regardless of platform, then fine, but they've already found out people are willing to pay it so that ship has sailed.

I'd agree that publisher's dumb handling of PC releases (whether it be releasing a buggy console port, putting silly DRM on it, or just plain releasing it 8 months after the console version and wondering why people aren't buying it) is the primary culprit of the downturn in the PC gaming market, but refusing to buy something isn't the solution either.

 

[ViviTheMage]

Originally posted by: thilan29
I won't buy it until it hits $40-50.

bingo

 

[purbeast0]

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Thats the problem with spending assload of money to make games. You need to charge a lot to recoup expenses. The problem is, as prices go up, sales go down.
The fact people are talking about boycotting the game before its even out means companies should reconsider how they make games these days. One bad title can easily put you out of business.

Once again, I blame the console lovers. They demand better graphics every year and refuse to spend money on anything less. Production costs go up, price goes up. Eventually it affects everyone.
The fact they are actually willing to spend 60 bucks a pop doesnt help matters either. That just encourages publishers to charge high prices.
And I agree about the inflation issue. If Windows games are going for 60 dollars, you can bet the console people will be getting screwed.

I miss the NES days.

i guess you missed this thing that has been selling pretty well for the past few years at low prices called the Wii.

 

[ibex333]

Well... Yea.. I'm definitely not going to "buy" it.

Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at $60-65 anyone?

 

[fatpat268]

I don't know. I say I'm not gonna buy it, but at the same time, I had a blast playing COD4 and COD WaW multiplayer, and I'm sure MW2 will be just as fun.

I'm not going to buy it right away, but all these people are delusional if they think the game will drop to $20 anytime soon. Retail copies of COD4 and 5 still go for more than $40 (oem copies go for ~$20)

 

[VashHT]

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: gorcorps
One of the biggest reasons devs site for moving away from the PC is because of lower profits. A mix of pirating, less user base, and other things can be blamed for it but it's no mystery that there's more money in the consoles. This is just a way to get some more money flowing from the PC crowd. While it costs a bit more initially for each gamer, it could spark more interest in PC gaming again if profits are boosted.

Now a bunch of you cheap f***s boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Your post needs a disclaimer:

"This post has been paid for by Activision."

Gotta love how you blame the fall of PC gaming completely on the consumer. Yup, there are no other factors involved...the "cheap" consumer is entirely to blame!

:roll:

Well, I certainly wouldn't say that the "fall of PC gaming" is completely on the consumer, but I think he does make a valid point. The solution to getting stronger PC support is not to boycott buying anything.

I guess I can understand the price hike. The same amount of R&D goes into putting the PC versino together as it does the console version, so why the price difference? Now if you want to argue that NO game should be above $50, regardless of platform, then fine, but they've already found out people are willing to pay it so that ship has sailed.

I'd agree that publisher's dumb handling of PC releases (whether it be releasing a buggy console port, putting silly DRM on it, or just plain releasing it 8 months after the console version and wondering why people aren't buying it) is the primary culprit of the downturn in the PC gaming market, but refusing to buy something isn't the solution either.

The reason console games were 10$ more is because you have to get a license from MS/Sony to put it on their console. AFAIK there is no such thing on the PC, anyone can develop whatever they feel like for it, which is why I feel like this price hike is a bunch of BS.

 

[The Boston Dangler]

$60 is too much

 

[duragezic]

I don't care much for this, but COD4 was so full of win that I'll buy MW2 on release for $60 no problem. The COD4 campaign, while a bit short, was epic. The MP is great as well and I still play it.

Game development costs have been going up and up for years, but this whole time the price has stayed the same. I remember when I was young and some games were $60. I don't think it is all that unreasonable that a AAA game for PC is the same price of the current gen consoles. While the PC won't have that licensing cost, I'm sure the extra $10 is easily ate up but the extra development time required for the PC. I mean cmon, is that all that unreasonable? Enough to start boycotts? :roll:

I don't think some of these people really enjoy PC gaming that much. Because much more of this and we won't have these games for PC. I just hope all these people boycotting don't go and pirate it. IW will then see again, huge numbers of pirates playing online, and the next game might not even make it to the PC. I'd much rather have a port, or a game with a DRM, or a few bugs at release, than not have it at all.

 

[450R]

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Now a bunch of you cheap fucks boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Choosing not to buy is considered boycotting? Raising the price to $60 is going to address piracy?

 

[PieIsAwesome]

Originally posted by: fatpat268
I'm not going to buy it right away, but all these people are delusional if they think the game will drop to $20 anytime soon. Retail copies of COD4 and 5 still go for more than $40 (oem copies go for ~$20)

I bought a used CoD4 360 for $30 and then resold it for $40 a week later.
There have been several deals for new CoD4s for $30 on 360 that I missed out on.

Originally posted by: ibex333
Well... Yea.. I'm definitely not going to "buy" it.

Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at $60-65 anyone?

I don't think I would even pay full price for SC2 ($50) and that is probably my number 1 most wanted game ever.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: VashHT

Originally posted by: Slick5150

Originally posted by: RyanPaulShaffer

Originally posted by: gorcorps
One of the biggest reasons devs site for moving away from the PC is because of lower profits. A mix of pirating, less user base, and other things can be blamed for it but it's no mystery that there's more money in the consoles. This is just a way to get some more money flowing from the PC crowd. While it costs a bit more initially for each gamer, it could spark more interest in PC gaming again if profits are boosted.

Now a bunch of you cheap f***s boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Your post needs a disclaimer:

"This post has been paid for by Activision."

Gotta love how you blame the fall of PC gaming completely on the consumer. Yup, there are no other factors involved...the "cheap" consumer is entirely to blame!

:roll:

Well, I certainly wouldn't say that the "fall of PC gaming" is completely on the consumer, but I think he does make a valid point. The solution to getting stronger PC support is not to boycott buying anything.

I guess I can understand the price hike. The same amount of R&D goes into putting the PC versino together as it does the console version, so why the price difference? Now if you want to argue that NO game should be above $50, regardless of platform, then fine, but they've already found out people are willing to pay it so that ship has sailed.

I'd agree that publisher's dumb handling of PC releases (whether it be releasing a buggy console port, putting silly DRM on it, or just plain releasing it 8 months after the console version and wondering why people aren't buying it) is the primary culprit of the downturn in the PC gaming market, but refusing to buy something isn't the solution either.

The reason console games were 10$ more is because you have to get a license from MS/Sony to put it on their console. AFAIK there is no such thing on the PC, anyone can develop whatever they feel like for it, which is why I feel like this price hike is a bunch of BS.

I don't deny the price hike is a bunch of BS. It's obviously there to only make more money for the dev, but you can't blame them with how little money they get from PC gaming these days... and THAT'S my point. If they sell less copies then they'll either bring the price back down OR stop supporting the PC altogether.

 

[shortylickens]

Alright gorcorps, not only is this the wrong forum for your angry rant, it has also been proven to be untrue on many occasions. Take it to the "Why PC gaming is declining" thread so you be properly torn apart there. We dont need it here. OP was asking about a specific game and not hatred.

As for me: I wont buy it anyway, unless I get a good demo and it hits bargain-bin pricing in a year. I just dont care that much.
I will look into other games this year (like Starcraft 2) because I am not a cheap bastard and am willing to pay for good entertainment.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: 450R

Originally posted by: gorcorps
Now a bunch of you cheap fucks boycott the game, they lose even more money, and then another dev moves away from the PC market. You guys are single handedly ruining PC gaming for yourselves. Anybody who bitches about the price are not allowed to bitch about lack of PC support ever again.

Choosing not to buy is considered boycotting? Raising the price to $60 is going to address piracy?

First, choosing not to buy just because you don't want it isn't boycotting. If you're trying to show you don't like the new price point by not buying, it's boycotting. I used that term because the OP mentioned it.

Second, er... what? I didn't say anything about how increasing the price is going to address piracy. The only thing I said was that piracy is some part of why the PC game dev has been losing money and sales recently. A price jump is a hope to get some of that money back. I didn't say it'd stop pirating or anything like that.

 

[mindcycle]

The COD games have probably sold relatively well on the PC, so they must figure they can now charge their existing fan base more and they'll still eat it up. I can "kind of" see the reasoning behind $60 games on consoles (with licensing fee's and whatnot), but not for PC games. It's a cash grab, nothing else.

 

[SniperWulf]

Originally posted by: thilan29
I won't buy it until it hits $40-50.

same

What they don't realize is that charging people more won't necessarily equate to more $ in sales. Basically you have about 5 categories of people.

There are those that will see the extra $10 as BS and wait for a price drop.
There are those that will see the extra $10 as BS and torrent it.
There are those that will torrent it no matter what the price is.
There are those that will only spend $X amount on any title and wait for a price drop
There are those that will pay the extra $10, no problem.

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: 450R
$60? Nope. I got 6 hours out of COD4's campaign... 6 hours of linear, simplistic on-rails arcade gameplay. It wasn't a bad game for what it was by any stretch of the imagination - I just didn't feel like I got my money's worth.

And yet it has mutliplayer...

 

[TallBill]

Originally posted by: ibex333
Well... Yea.. I'm definitely not going to "buy" it.

Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at $60-65 anyone?

Diablo 3, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.

 

[nakedfrog]

Originally posted by: SniperWulf

Originally posted by: thilan29
I won't buy it until it hits $40-50.

same

What they don't realize is that charging people more won't necessarily equate to more $ in sales. Basically you have about 5 categories of people.

There are those that will see the extra $10 as BS and wait for a price drop.
There are those that will see the extra $10 as BS and torrent it.
There are those that will torrent it no matter what the price is.
There are those that will only spend $X amount on any title and wait for a price drop
There are those that will pay the extra $10, no problem.

Yeah, that seems like a pretty accurate breakdown.

 

[gorcorps]

Originally posted by: TallBill

Originally posted by: ibex333
Well... Yea.. I'm definitely not going to "buy" it.

Starcraft 2 and Diablo 3 at $60-65 anyone?

Diablo 3, yes yes yes yes yes yes yes.

I know how you feel. By the time D3 comes out I'll have actual money. I'll probably buy a whole new PC just for that game. $800 for D3 sounds about right I think.