Will you buy Modern Combat 2 for $60-$65 on the PC

[Red Storm]

Originally posted by: OCguy
So nobody is buying MW2 or L4D2 on this board, yet they will more than likely be the #1 and #2 sellers of the year. Hmmm...

Top sellers != best games. Or do you believe that WoW is the greatest game ever? :roll:

Is it really that hard for you to believe that most people here prefer to get games when they are cheaper rather than pay $60 (should be $50, PCs have no license fees) at release? Or in the case of L4D2, pay for more of the same only a year later? The vast majority of people that make a game a best seller do not play multiplayer, they do not frequent forums such as this. They simply see the game while browsing a store and purchase it.

It's not about the cost; I can easily afford to pay for games full price if I wanted to... but why should I? I'd rather be smart with my money.

 

[pmv]

Originally posted by: DarkForceRising

Originally posted by: Elcs
In the UK, it is debuting at £30 which is the normal price, maybe even £5 under the typical (though huge titles such as DoW came in at £25).

I fail to see the problem.

Wait, what?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.co...ern-warefare-2-for-40/

That gives an interesting explanation.

As the pound is not, in fact, at hugely low rates to the dollar (only when compared with the exceptionally high 2$ to £1 rates we had a year or so ago), the crucial issue here then would seem to be that Activision (American) is owned by Vivendi (French). So a French company has to raise prices outside of the Eurozone due to the strength of the Euro. I don't see why non Eurozone companies would have any reason to follow them.

Also, given the terrible mess certain Eurozone countries are in due to the overvalued Euro (Ireland, Italy and Spain), possibly the Euro will not remain at this level. So perhaps this is just a specific issue for Eurozone-based companies?

 

[Dumac]

I never liked any of the CoD games, so no.

 

[Anubis]

Originally posted by: zerocool84
I'm not buying the game anways. CoD4 got boring with the nade spam fest and im sure this'll be the same.

Yea i was not planning on getting it anyway,

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

If Activision is planning to charge $60 for MW2, you can be sure the pricetag they slap on SC2 will be the same.

It's going to be an interesting next 12 months in PC gaming.

 

[mwmorph]

Originally posted by: pmv

Originally posted by: DarkForceRising

Originally posted by: Elcs
In the UK, it is debuting at £30 which is the normal price, maybe even £5 under the typical (though huge titles such as DoW came in at £25).

I fail to see the problem.

Wait, what?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.co...ern-warefare-2-for-40/

That gives an interesting explanation.

As the pound is not, in fact, at hugely low rates to the dollar (only when compared with the exceptionally high 2$ to £1 rates we had a year or so ago), the crucial issue here then would seem to be that Activision (American) is owned by Vivendi (French). So a French company has to raise prices outside of the Eurozone due to the strength of the Euro. I don't see why non Eurozone companies would have any reason to follow them.

Also, given the terrible mess certain Eurozone countries are in due to the overvalued Euro (Ireland, Italy and Spain), possibly the Euro will not remain at this level. So perhaps this is just a specific issue for Eurozone-based companies?

Can you explain why XBox360 version is going to be £55? I mean $90/64Euro seems insanely high, or is that more in line with how prices are across the pacific?

 

[paperfist]

Originally posted by: Ackmed

Originally posted by: 450R
$60? Nope. I got 6 hours out of COD4's campaign... 6 hours of linear, simplistic on-rails arcade gameplay. It wasn't a bad game for what it was by any stretch of the imagination - I just didn't feel like I got my money's worth.

And yet it has mutliplayer...

But it's just an expansion. Isn't anyone getting tired of the same old hat with a couple of new feathers? No one is getting tired of 'leveling' up the same old characters in a different suit? It's starting to feel like MMO grind machines

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Piuc2020

Originally posted by: shortylickens
Thats the problem with spending assload of money to make games. You need to charge a lot to recoup expenses. The problem is, as prices go up, sales go down.
The fact people are talking about boycotting the game before its even out means companies should reconsider how they make games these days. One bad title can easily put you out of business.

Once again, I blame the console lovers. They demand better graphics every year and refuse to spend money on anything less. Production costs go up, price goes up. Eventually it affects everyone.
The fact they are actually willing to spend 60 bucks a pop doesnt help matters either. That just encourages publishers to charge high prices.
And I agree about the inflation issue. If Windows games are going for 60 dollars, you can bet the console people will be getting screwed.

I miss the NES days.

Actually, games during the NES/SNES era and for the N64 were grossly overpriced and much more expensive than they are now.

QFT, I remember paying $60-$70 for popular brand-new SNES games in the early 90's. In real terms those games were quite a bit more expensive than console games are today.

Regarding the thread topic, I might buy it for $60 new. It depends how much of a need I have for new entertainment at the time.

I finally replaced my 5 year old PC, so I'm going back and picking up FPS games that I've missed over the past few years. I just finished COD5 and have COD4 on the way. I also want to try L4D at some point.

If I'm finished with those games by this November, then I'll probably get MW2.

Shouldn't the title be "Modern Warfare 2" instead of Modern Combat 2?

 

[DarkForceRising]

From the response thread on the RPS article:
"I love how they jump at the chance to *raise* prices because of changes in exchange rates, but wouldn?t dream of lowering them for the same reason."

Seems about right to me.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
My perspective:

It is well worth it for anyone into the MP, as you will get 100's of hours of entertainment for the money. That will be much less than $1 an hour, a damned good deal.

You are only into the SP? You buy it, play it till you have had enough, maybe a week? and resell it used. You lose perhaps $15 on it, no bfd unless you are a child without your own income. I also posit that, if it is still too much money for you to spend, then you need to find a more profitable past time. Since you are obviously too destitute to be able to afford wasting time playing video games.

If profits from the PC sales dry up, they will eventually abandon the platform. It is a simple bottom line business decision, you don't continue to waste resources on endeavors that do not provide an adequate roi.

This is a triple A title, from a highly successful franchise, and I think it will sell very well across all the platforms. If not, the time spent developing for the ones where it fails, will start to dwindle or cease.

Isn't that already happening?

 

[rchiu]

eh, what's the difference.

It's always been gaming industry's strategy.

Sell it at a high price at introduction to get as much money as possible from those hardcore gamers. Then later drop price to hit the mass market.

10 buck more isn't gonna change anything for those people who must have these games and go out the first day/week to buy them. Activision can always drop the price later so the rest of the people will buy it, therefor maximizing their profit through out.

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
My perspective:

It is well worth it for anyone into the MP, as you will get 100's of hours of entertainment for the money. That will be much less than $1 an hour, a damned good deal.

You are only into the SP? You buy it, play it till you have had enough, maybe a week? and resell it used. You lose perhaps $15 on it, no bfd unless you are a child without your own income. I also posit that, if it is still too much money for you to spend, then you need to find a more profitable past time. Since you are obviously too destitute to be able to afford wasting time playing video games.

If profits from the PC sales dry up, they will eventually abandon the platform. It is a simple bottom line business decision, you don't continue to waste resources on endeavors that do not provide an adequate roi.

This is a triple A title, from a highly successful franchise, and I think it will sell very well across all the platforms. If not, the time spent developing for the ones where it fails, will start to dwindle or cease.

Isn't that already happening?

Not yet. Have a look at gamespot's top PS3 games and see how many of them are also on PC. Aside from MGS4 and Infamous, we have all of those good games.
edit: Killzone 2 was another good one we don't have.

 

[Red Irish]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
My perspective:

It is well worth it for anyone into the MP, as you will get 100's of hours of entertainment for the money. That will be much less than $1 an hour, a damned good deal.

You are only into the SP? You buy it, play it till you have had enough, maybe a week? and resell it used. You lose perhaps $15 on it, no bfd unless you are a child without your own income. I also posit that, if it is still too much money for you to spend, then you need to find a more profitable past time. Since you are obviously too destitute to be able to afford wasting time playing video games.

If profits from the PC sales dry up, they will eventually abandon the platform. It is a simple bottom line business decision, you don't continue to waste resources on endeavors that do not provide an adequate roi.

This is a triple A title, from a highly successful franchise, and I think it will sell very well across all the platforms. If not, the time spent developing for the ones where it fails, will start to dwindle or cease.

Isn't that already happening?

Not yet. Have a look at gamespot's top PS3 games and see how many of them are also on PC. Aside from MGS4 and Infamous, we have all of those good games.
edit: Killzone 2 was another good one we don't have.

Yes, but many are poor ports or infested with draconian DRM. The companies are placing more focus on consoles.

 

[AzN]

I rather play BF2 or 3 when it comes out. I sold off my COD because it's shit compared to BF2.

 

[WhipperSnapper]

Another alternative might be for people to discover or rediscover Unreal Tournament 2004. While not as good as the original UT99 capture-the-flag game (the greatest online multiplayer FPS of all time), it does offer an excellent vehicle-based game called Onslaught which has a couple populated servers (often packed with 32 players during North American prime time) and there are a great many custom maps for the game. Come see what it feels like to play an online multiplayer FPS where custom mappers and modders are free to improve and to add to the game and where gamers aren't constricted by gaming companies that are not friendly to custom content.

 

[Dumac]

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx
If Activision is planning to charge $60 for MW2, you can be sure the pricetag they slap on SC2 will be the same.

It's going to be an interesting next 12 months in PC gaming.

...don't say that D:

 

[Martimus]

Originally posted by: Red Irish

Originally posted by: DAPUNISHER
My perspective:

It is well worth it for anyone into the MP, as you will get 100's of hours of entertainment for the money. That will be much less than $1 an hour, a damned good deal.

You are only into the SP? You buy it, play it till you have had enough, maybe a week? and resell it used. You lose perhaps $15 on it, no bfd unless you are a child without your own income. I also posit that, if it is still too much money for you to spend, then you need to find a more profitable past time. Since you are obviously too destitute to be able to afford wasting time playing video games.

If profits from the PC sales dry up, they will eventually abandon the platform. It is a simple bottom line business decision, you don't continue to waste resources on endeavors that do not provide an adequate roi.

This is a triple A title, from a highly successful franchise, and I think it will sell very well across all the platforms. If not, the time spent developing for the ones where it fails, will start to dwindle or cease.

Isn't that already happening?

I have so many games that I haven't even gotten a chance to play them yet. Let alone the ones that I wanted but didn't purchase because I had so many already to play. I don't see publishers leaving the PC gaming industry any faster than I see new ones coming in. There are hundreds of millions of PC's in the world, so ofcourse there will always be game developers and publishers to produce games for them. It is such a huge market that it will never dry up (at least not while PC's are so abundant).

 

[Ackmed]

Originally posted by: PieIsAwesome

Originally posted by: Krakn3Dfx

Originally posted by: skyofavalon
games drop in price so quick.Doesnt really matter.

CoD4 is still $40 on the PC, CoD5 is still $50.

I dunno if that qualifies for "so quickly".

$30 shipped.

And how long after release? Its been close to 20 months, and all you can come up with is a $20 difference in release prices, and now. You just proved his point. Most people buy games in B&M stores, and its still $40 there. A $10 drop in closing in on two years. The fact is, games like this dont drop in price that fast. Because they sell well, and are popular.

 

[rivan]

Originally posted by: ayabe
No, I'll buy it when it goes on sale.

Same here, unless another game's come along and held my interest. Then it might not get bought at all.

 

[Modelworks]

Nope. Not buying.
They need to lower prices not raise them. The game will be pirated to extreme levels, then the publisher will complain that they can't make pc games because they don't profit from them.
$60 is absurd for a pc game. The pirates are going to look at it like this :
For $60 they can:
Buy a new dvd burner + 50 Blank DVD + a new mouse pad + have money left over for snacks and drinks or they can pay $60 + tax, another $5 so $65 for the game and have a box with a dvd.

The more the price increases the more people see other things they can do with the same amount of money.

 

[pmv]

Originally posted by: DarkForceRising


Wait, what?

http://www.rockpapershotgun.co...ern-warefare-2-for-40/

Actually, if that explanation is correct, that would imply there won't be a price rise for the game in the Eurozone. Anyone know if that's the case? If they are increasing the price there also then its not exchange rates after all.

 

[Special K]

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Nope. Not buying.
They need to lower prices not raise them. The game will be pirated to extreme levels, then the publisher will complain that they can't make pc games because they don't profit from them.
$60 is absurd for a pc game. The pirates are going to look at it like this :
For $60 they can:
Buy a new dvd burner + 50 Blank DVD + a new mouse pad + have money left over for snacks and drinks or they can pay $60 + tax, another $5 so $65 for the game and have a box with a dvd.

The more the price increases the more people see other things they can do with the same amount of money.

Is the multiplayer mode even functional if you pirate the game? Won't you get "CD key in use" and similar error messages? Sure, you can play the single player campaign with a pirated version, but isn't the multiplayer mode one of the main reasons people buy games like this? I know I expect a solid multiplayer mode in games like this, given that the single-player campaign modes usually aren't very long or difficult, even though they're still a lot of fun.

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Nope. Not buying.
They need to lower prices not raise them. The game will be pirated to extreme levels, then the publisher will complain that they can't make pc games because they don't profit from them.
$60 is absurd for a pc game. The pirates are going to look at it like this :
For $60 they can:
Buy a new dvd burner + 50 Blank DVD + a new mouse pad + have money left over for snacks and drinks or they can pay $60 + tax, another $5 so $65 for the game and have a box with a dvd.

The more the price increases the more people see other things they can do with the same amount of money.

Is the multiplayer mode even functional if you pirate the game? Won't you get "CD key in use" and similar error messages? Sure, you can play the single player campaign with a pirated version, but isn't the multiplayer mode one of the main reasons people buy games like this? I know I expect a solid multiplayer mode in games like this, given that the single-player campaign modes usually aren't very long or difficult, even though they're still a lot of fun.

Search google for cracked servers.
There are thousands that play without ever needing a key some of them legit purchases. I used to do it with a game because the original had DRM where you had to have the cd in the drive. Cracked servers don't care.

 

[Jack Flash]

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Nope. Not buying.
They need to lower prices not raise them. The game will be pirated to extreme levels, then the publisher will complain that they can't make pc games because they don't profit from them.
$60 is absurd for a pc game. The pirates are going to look at it like this :
For $60 they can:
Buy a new dvd burner + 50 Blank DVD + a new mouse pad + have money left over for snacks and drinks or they can pay $60 + tax, another $5 so $65 for the game and have a box with a dvd.

The more the price increases the more people see other things they can do with the same amount of money.

Is the multiplayer mode even functional if you pirate the game? Won't you get "CD key in use" and similar error messages? Sure, you can play the single player campaign with a pirated version, but isn't the multiplayer mode one of the main reasons people buy games like this? I know I expect a solid multiplayer mode in games like this, given that the single-player campaign modes usually aren't very long or difficult, even though they're still a lot of fun.

Search google for cracked servers.
There are thousands that play without ever needing a key some of them legit purchases. I used to do it with a game because the original had DRM where you had to have the cd in the drive. Cracked servers don't care.

Original game as in Call of Duty 1 or are you talking about Call of Duty 4 where you absolutely did not need the disc in drive for multiplayer?

 

[Modelworks]

Originally posted by: Jack Flash

Originally posted by: Modelworks

Originally posted by: Special K

Originally posted by: Modelworks
Nope. Not buying.
They need to lower prices not raise them. The game will be pirated to extreme levels, then the publisher will complain that they can't make pc games because they don't profit from them.
$60 is absurd for a pc game. The pirates are going to look at it like this :
For $60 they can:
Buy a new dvd burner + 50 Blank DVD + a new mouse pad + have money left over for snacks and drinks or they can pay $60 + tax, another $5 so $65 for the game and have a box with a dvd.

The more the price increases the more people see other things they can do with the same amount of money.

Is the multiplayer mode even functional if you pirate the game? Won't you get "CD key in use" and similar error messages? Sure, you can play the single player campaign with a pirated version, but isn't the multiplayer mode one of the main reasons people buy games like this? I know I expect a solid multiplayer mode in games like this, given that the single-player campaign modes usually aren't very long or difficult, even though they're still a lot of fun.

Search google for cracked servers.
There are thousands that play without ever needing a key some of them legit purchases. I used to do it with a game because the original had DRM where you had to have the cd in the drive. Cracked servers don't care.

Original game as in Call of Duty 1 or are you talking about Call of Duty 4 where you absolutely did not need the disc in drive for multiplayer?

It was an older game, I don't think it was in the COD series, I think it might have been one of the medal of honors. It was a couple years back, that is when I learned about cracked servers.