Will you buy Modern Combat 2 for $60-$65 on the PC

[tk149]

Originally posted by: gorcorps

I know how you feel. By the time D3 comes out I'll have actual money. I'll probably buy a whole new PC just for that game. $800 for D3 sounds about right I think.

LOL! That's exactly how I feel too! I need to build a new rig to play D3 and SC2!

I usually refuse to pay more than $30 for a game, PC or console. D3 and SC2 will be exceptions.

 

[postmortemIA]

lame, just when I get some sympathy for publishers due to tough situation (bad economy, huge piracy), they pull this on themselves... it is going to look great on store shelves for PC gaming.. shelves are emptier than ever, and now COD MC2 will be there standing even more ridiculous.

 

[tk149]

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Not yet. Have a look at gamespot's top PS3 games and see how many of them are also on PC. Aside from MGS4 and Infamous, we have all of those good games.
edit: Killzone 2 was another good one we don't have.

From your Gamespot link and based on my quick searching on Gamespot, the following bolded titles are not on PC. 8 titles out of your list of 15. While not all of them are PS3 exclusive, you can't claim that they're on the PC.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Grand Theft Auto IV
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
inFamous
Comet Crash
MLB 09: The Show
Killzone 2
Street Fighter IV
Resistance 2
Dead Space
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
NHL 09
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution
Burnout Paradise

Don't know if anyone mentioned it, but is MC2 being sold cross platform for $60? If so, Maybe they raised to the PC price to match the console versions.

 

[Bman123]

I will buy it for $60 only because I am use to paying that much for console games and the pc version owns the console version so I dont care.

I dont see how the one guy said that all the cod games are crap.Cod 2,cod mw,and cod mw2 will be the best games.Treyarch always messes the games up,
Cod waw was not a bad game tho I give em that much

 

[The Boston Dangler]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Not yet. Have a look at gamespot's top PS3 games and see how many of them are also on PC. Aside from MGS4 and Infamous, we have all of those good games.
edit: Killzone 2 was another good one we don't have.

From your Gamespot link and based on my quick searching on Gamespot, the following bolded titles are not on PC. 8 titles out of your list of 15. While not all of them are PS3 exclusive, you can't claim that they're on the PC.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Grand Theft Auto IV
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
inFamous
Comet Crash
MLB 09: The Show
Killzone 2
Street Fighter IV
Resistance 2
Dead Space
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
NHL 09
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution
Burnout Paradise

Don't know if anyone mentioned it, but is MC2 being sold cross platform for $60? If so, Maybe they raised to the PC price to match the console versions.

wow i'd love to play littlebigplanet on pc

 

[evident]

i shelled out fullprice for COD4 and was disappointed. never again

 

[fausto412]

I refused to pay full retail for any game, i wait till they go on sale and buy then. by that point it has been patched a bunch of times. I also decided to buy all my games on steam, tired of dealing with DVD's when i want to play....Steam sales on new games take longer to come around but that just means more patches

 

[Dorkenstein]

I'm not paying that much even for a great game. Activision needs to learn a lesson, though I doubt they will this time.

 

[xboxist]

I started to forge a response that included how I bought FF3 for $80 in 1994 and it turned out to be one of the defining games in my game career. And also how I paid $10 for Portal last weekend and how I thought that was one of favorite gaming experiences ever as well. But then I couldn't figure out how to complete the point and how that all relates to this thread, so I abandoned it.

 

[minmaster]

cod5 waw is $25, so these games do come down in price or at least have big discount sales.

 

[Udgnim]

if I liked CoD 4's multiplayer, I'm pretty sure yes because the amount of hours spent playing multiplayer would outweigh the 60-65 dollar pricetag. I'll pick it up eventually though since I did like CoD 4's single player.

too bad I just can't get into multiplayer games based off of real world weapons =/

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: tk149

Originally posted by: ShawnD1

Not yet. Have a look at gamespot's top PS3 games and see how many of them are also on PC. Aside from MGS4 and Infamous, we have all of those good games.
edit: Killzone 2 was another good one we don't have.

From your Gamespot link and based on my quick searching on Gamespot, the following bolded titles are not on PC. 8 titles out of your list of 15. While not all of them are PS3 exclusive, you can't claim that they're on the PC.

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Grand Theft Auto IV
The Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion
inFamous
Comet Crash
MLB 09: The Show
Killzone 2
Street Fighter IV
Resistance 2
Dead Space
BioShock
LittleBigPlanet
NHL 09
Sid Meier's Civilization Revolution
Burnout Paradise

I didn't mention some of the bolded ones because most of them suck. I mentioned MGS and Infamous. Comet Crash wasn't fun. MLB is a sports game so that's an immediate 0/10 score. Killzone I mentioned. Little Big Planet was horrible and Spoony explained exactly what's wrong with it (fast forward the video by 17 minutes). Resistance 2 was fun but it's not special in any way. I never played Civ Revolution but it's probably awesome.

The point is that you're really not missing anything if you don't have a PS3 or Xbox. People are complaining about developers leaving the PC to make Xbox and PS3 exclusives, but then we look at what they're doing with those consoles and it's absolute garbage. MGS4 was great, but LBP? It's a game about collecting stickers. They've somehow found a way to take a game that would normally be $10 on Xbox Live or PSN and charge $60 for it.

Yes, but many are poor ports or infested with draconian DRM. The companies are placing more focus on consoles.

It goes both ways. Have you ever tried playing Oblivion or Fallout 3 on the PS3? They are so broken that it's not even worth playing them. I'm talking about the minute load times when you enter a building (takes maybe 3 seconds on the PC). I'm talking about the 200lb carry limit that you can't patch (on the PC you can patch it to 50000 pounds). Team Fortress 2 on Xbox is fucked beyond belief; there's no sticky aiming so everyone needs to strafe left and right as a way of aiming. When I tried playing TF2 on Xbox, it was only able to find 1 server to play on, that's how unpopular and unplayable it is.

The PC gaming platform is still very strong, so don't pay $65 just because you feel obligated to support the industry. I'll support the industry by buying older games for $30 and buying twice as many of them.

 

[Regs]

Depends if they have more maps in multiplayer. What are they giving me for 10 more dollars? If they're not going to at least tell me, then I will kindly just ignore them until the price lowers.

 

[fuzzybabybunny]

Are these guys just asking for this game to get pirated?

 

[Polish3d]

Too much to pay for something you (generally) cannot try first nor return if dissatisfied

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: Polish3d
Too much to pay for something you (generally) cannot try first nor return if dissatisfied

They'll probably make a demo for it. COD 4 demo can be downloaded here. World at War has a demo too but it's a bitch trying to get a link for it so I won't bother.

 

[paperfist]

I won't pay $60+ for an expansion that forces me to 'level' up another character.

 

[ZzZGuy]

I'm thinking of taking advantage of Steams 50% off of "World at War" ($24) just now. No way in hell I'd pay $60+.

 

[paperfist]

Originally posted by: fuzzybabybunny
Are these guys just asking for this game to get pirated?

No, they are just looking to take the heat off the $60+ price tag and blame lack of sales on piracy

 

[Dorkenstein]

I will try not to buy this until it goes to a more "normal" price, as long as it takes. Bobby "The Hobbit" Kotick won't lose any sleep or money over my decision but it would make me feel a little better.

 

[Krakn3Dfx]

I just picked up COD:WAW on Steam for the $25 sale, pretty much just to check out the zombie stuff tho.

Have no real interest in COD4 or COD6 though at this point.

 

[BenSkywalker]

Wii Fit runs a bit under $100 and has sold over 20 million units(more then WoW). Everyone can think they are taking a stand against the evil corporate whatever and that it will do something, the only likely thing it will do is get Activision to drop more support for the platform. In their last quarter outside of WoW the PC as a platform pulled in a whopping $41 million for Activision, at this point there is little doubt they are taking anything destined for the PC and giving it a lengthy consideration before it gets green lighted. Personally, I think Activision has rapidly moved far below EA in terms of a disgustingly inept collection of former names selling games on nothing but memories of years ago, so no big loss from my seat, but if they are a publisher you are interested in it is something to consider(and yes for the record, I absolutely include Blizzard in that- please rebut only if you have played something new they released in the last four years ).

The PC gaming platform is still very strong, so don't pay $65 just because you feel obligated to support the industry. I'll support the industry by buying older games for $30 and buying twice as many of them.

Activision's last quarter they had $41 Million in non MMO revenue from the PC. Their total revenue was over $1Billion. The MMO market is indeed very strong, which is certainly part of the PC Market, but the PC market outside of MMOs isn't what most people would consider mildly wiry

It goes both ways. Have you ever tried playing Oblivion or Fallout 3 on the PS3? They are so broken that it's not even worth playing them. I'm talking about the minute load times when you enter a building

You know when most people say 'PS3' they mean the Playstation 3 right? If that is what you are talking about I would check your disk or your machine, minute load times on FO3? Something has to be broken with your setup.

LBP was a huge hit amongst developers and pretty much everyone who is big into innovative games. Wasn't my thing personally, but saying it sucked only proves you don't like that type of game. That is like someone who hates racing games saying Forza sucks, their viewpoint really doesn't matter.

Also, for exclusives you missed all of the big ones(GoW, GT, Unchartered, R&C), and the one you gave credit too isn't worth vomiting on(MGS4)

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

It goes both ways. Have you ever tried playing Oblivion or Fallout 3 on the PS3? They are so broken that it's not even worth playing them. I'm talking about the minute load times when you enter a building

You know when most people say 'PS3' they mean the Playstation 3 right? If that is what you are talking about I would check your disk or your machine, minute load times on FO3? Something has to be broken with your setup.

video of PS3 and Xbox load times for Oblivion. They should have just called the game Elder Scrolls 4: Loading. Another thing is that in the PC version you'll be walking around and the screen says something like "area loaded" in white text even though it didn't pause to load anything. In the Xbox and PS3 versions, the game actually stops and loads a new area. It's annoying as hell because there are no markings to indicate that the game is going to pause like that if you walk past a certain area.
Fallout 3 is even worse where the game takes literally a minute and a half to load on the PS3. Of course numbers are the worst enemy of a console gamer so the comments look like this:
"Bethesda didn't optimize the? game for the PS3"
"So because of a minute difference, you're complaining?"
"i like my ps3 more than my 360"
Notice how nobody really denies how bad the load times are. They just say "oh well I like my PS3" as if that somehow justifies how fucked up and unplayable the game is.

LBP was a huge hit amongst developers and pretty much everyone who is big into innovative games. Wasn't my thing personally, but saying it sucked only proves you don't like that type of game. That is like someone who hates racing games saying Forza sucks, their viewpoint really doesn't matter.

I pick on LBP because it's one of those games where I don't see the appeal at all. I don't like any of the NES Megaman games because I turn the game off when I die 3 times, but a lot of people love those games because they have infinite continues and offer a good challenge. I can understand why someone would like Megaman even though I hate it. LBP is not like that at all. I just don't see any appeal in a game where the whole point of the game is to collect stickers and dress up your little doll. Another thing is that LBP is basically what you would get if you took a game like Super Mario or Megaman and removed all the enemies so all that remains is jumping across moving platforms. Platforming is ok in Mario or Megaman because it's to add challenge, but in LBP it's all the game has; there's literally nothing else to do in that game. If it was sold with a name like "Barbie's Platforming Adventure" it would get a 1/10 from every reviewer on the planet, but it has cute characters and the narrator sounds cool and Little Big Planet is a cute name so it gets 10/10. How cute.

Also, for exclusives you missed all of the big ones(GoW, GT, Unchartered, R&C), and the one you gave credit too isn't worth vomiting on(MGS4)

They weren't mentioned because they weren't in the top 15 list. I was just looking at which games are perceived to be the best games on the PS3 and commenting on which ones are available on multiple platforms. I was replying to someone who said something like "developers are leaving the PC to work on consoles" so here I'm pointing out that many of the "best" games on that console are still available on the PC and that you don't need to worry. GT really should be on that list, but gamespot had to make room for LBP because it's just so cute; GT needs panda bears and a narrator before it will make the list

 

[BenSkywalker]

They should have just called the game Elder Scrolls 4: Loading.

It was 15 seconds for Oblivion on the PS3 versus 7 for the PC. Like I said, if you are seeing minute load times something is wrong with your system.

Fallout 3 is even worse where the game takes literally a minute and a half to load on the PS3.

When you first load it yes, you are correct. Try this for a comparison, take your PC from off to into FO3 against a PS3 for an even comparison there In game there aren't minute long hitches like you stated, if there are something is broken with your system.

I don't like any of the NES Megaman games

That doesn't give you a lot of cred when discussing platformers.

Platforming is ok in Mario or Megaman because it's to add challenge, but in LBP it's all the game has

Not exactly. LBP is probably the most moddable game ever on the consoles. Certainly it's true that several PC games are far moreso then it, but it is quite unique in the console space. Again, not exactly my thing, but I can certainly see why people find the title so interesting.

I was just looking at which games are perceived to be the best games on the PS3

At least use Metacritic. Not that I think they are the best metric either, but certainly leagues beyond Gamespot

 

[ShawnD1]

Originally posted by: BenSkywalker

Fallout 3 is even worse where the game takes literally a minute and a half to load on the PS3.

When you first load it yes, you are correct. Try this for a comparison, take your PC from off to into FO3 against a PS3 for an even comparison there

That's a good idea. video of fallout 3 loading on my PC
PC load time from desktop - 17 seconds
PS3 load time from home screen - 81 seconds

It's more than 4 times slower on the PS3, that's how badly this game was ported. If people are complaining about PC games being bad ports of console games, they need to play Fallout 3 on the PS3 to see what bad porting looks like.

I don't like any of the NES Megaman games

That doesn't give you a lot of cred when discussing platformers.

It's not the platforming that kills megaman but the way the game has 1 linear path and the only way to know how to play it is to just play the game over and over again. How would you ever guess that you're supposed to kill Bubble Man before Flash Man and that you need the Rush Jet before you can beat Heat Man? There's no way you could possibly know that without reading a strategy guide or playing the game a few dozen times. Most games at least try to maintain some kind of logical pattern like water beats fire, fire beats plants, ground beats electricity (these are the rules from the first pokemon game).

Platforming is ok in Mario or Megaman because it's to add challenge, but in LBP it's all the game has

Not exactly. LBP is probably the most moddable game ever on the consoles. Certainly it's true that several PC games are far moreso then it, but it is quite unique in the console space. Again, not exactly my thing, but I can certainly see why people find the title so interesting.

It's great that LBP can be modded, but one needs to wade through garbage to find a gem. After playing 10 or so bad custom maps in a row, I just gave up and stopped playing. Luckily it was just a rental so it wasn't that big of a loss.

I was just looking at which games are perceived to be the best games on the PS3

At least use Metacritic. Not that I think they are the best metric either, but certainly leagues beyond Gamespot

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Ironically GT and Uncharted don't appear in the PS3's top 15 list there either
(Uncharted is #20