Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

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BlueWeasel

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So where did you get a generic key from? When I checked the keys for both of my pro installs they each had the same key but activated without issue.

I used a keyfinder app once the Win10 upgrade was complete and activated. It wouldn't surprise me if we both have same Pro key.

I had to enter the generic key in order to trigger the reactivation. I previously was using one of the public/insider keys for the RTM install.
 

us3rnotfound

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us3rnotfound,
Whats the error you are getting? What code?

This: http://i.imgur.com/gCCKV8y.png

Edit: It installed, I used the Media Creation Tool to instead create a USB flash drive. But the "Something Happened" sans serif white font on nice blue GUI happened on a perfectly good Windows 10, AMD A-series APU, desktop Media Creation Tool desktop app. So, I used my Alienware M14x R2 i7 laptop running Windows 10, and the Media Creation Tool successfully created a USB Flash Drive. I guess early adopters beware. Especially if it is an AMD desktop, they seem to be much worse off than Intel machines. YMMV.
 
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Hugh Jass

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Quick question...

I'm currently on an older system built around an ASUS M3A78-EM mobo and I just recently did a clean install of W10. What I'm wondering is if I need to install the older mobo drivers as I did when I was running W8.1 or do I just stick with what drivers were installed when I installed the OS? Will the older drivers even work in W10?

Any help or thoughts would be appreciated.
 

Puffnstuff

Lifer
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If you don't see any yellow exclamation marks in device manager then I wouldn't worry about it.
 

gplracer

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I just did not upgrade from Windows 7 and i have no issues at all. Usually I do not do upgrades but fresh installs. What are the advantages to doing a fresh install now?
 

Ketchup

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I just did not upgrade from Windows 7 and i have no issues at all. Usually I do not do upgrades but fresh installs. What are the advantages to doing a fresh install now?

This is a bit of an ongoing debate since Windows 98. I usually do a fresh install. I did an upgrade to 10 on my laptop, and honestly it feels just as fast.

One argument is the unneeded entries in the registry. I have not seen a tangible difference in cleaning out unneeded registry entries since Windows 95. The only reason I clean out the registry on most machines is removing traces of Malware. I don't mind editing the registry in specific cases, but cleaning just to clean, no.
 

Hugh Jass

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If you don't see any yellow exclamation marks in device manager then I wouldn't worry about it.

Kind of what I was thinking. But I was also wondering if performance would be better using the ASUS branded drivers even if they weren't specifically for W10.
 

burninatortech4

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For the last few days all I ever see is the "Thank you for reserving your free upgrade" and "OK, notify me when ready"

It's always the same screen when I click the windows 10 icon in the dock. I have not received any notification since Windows 10 went live.
 

Puffnstuff

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You have to do an end run around using the media creation tool and either create a bootable usb stick or an iso to burn to dvd. This method gives you the real installation disc which you can use later and is what I used to do all three of mine. My laptop and tablet upgraded but my desktop was a clean install, which it needed anyway.
 

JackMDS

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Kind of what I was thinking. But I was also wondering if performance would be better using the ASUS branded drivers even if they weren't specifically for W10.

The world is Not full with people that sit and write duplicate Drivers.

In almost all cases Vanilla Drivers are written by the Original Manufacturer.

Other that use the chipset/components of the specific manufacturer Brand and use the Vanilla Divers and many time add to them useless "Junk" to augment the drivers under their Brand name especially common in Wireless Cards).

It is very rare that Microsoft would writes Drivers, they ask the 3rd party vendors to submit Drivers, take the submitted Drivers from the OEMs, test them, and release them with the OS.

Some manufacturers (for whatever reasons unbeknown to us) do not want to submit Drivers and perfer that the user will download thier Drivers from other sources.

So if the Drivers that came with the OS works well there is No reason to look for an "Holy Grail".

Component's Drivers' health can be check by looking at the OS' Device Manager.

More info about installed components and their drivers can be also obtained by using this free portable App.

http://pci-z.com/ (Downloads at the end of the page)>



 

pauldun170

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For the last few days all I ever see is the "Thank you for reserving your free upgrade" and "OK, notify me when ready"

It's always the same screen when I click the windows 10 icon in the dock. I have not received any notification since Windows 10 went live.

You can initiate it by adding a registry key
Locate the registry key: [HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\WindowsUpdate\OSUpgrade]
It should exist, but if not, create it.
Create a new DWORD (32-bit) Value with Name = "AllowOSUpgrade” (without the quotes), and set the Value = 0x00000001.
 

pauldun170

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This: http://i.imgur.com/gCCKV8y.png

Edit: It installed, I used the Media Creation Tool to instead create a USB flash drive. But the "Something Happened" sans serif white font on nice blue GUI happened on a perfectly good Windows 10, AMD A-series APU, desktop Media Creation Tool desktop app. So, I used my Alienware M14x R2 i7 laptop running Windows 10, and the Media Creation Tool successfully created a USB Flash Drive. I guess early adopters beware. Especially if it is an AMD desktop, they seem to be much worse off than Intel machines. YMMV.

There should be an actual code that gets displayed on the blue screen.
 

Hugh Jass

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The world is Not full with people that sit and write duplicate Drivers.

In almost all cases Vanilla Drivers are written by the Original Manufacturer.

Other that use the chipset/components of the specific manufacturer Brand and use the Vanilla Divers and many time add to them useless "Junk" to augment the drivers under their Brand name especially common in Wireless Cards).

It is very rare that Microsoft would writes Drivers, they ask the 3rd party vendors to submit Drivers, take the submitted Drivers from the OEMs, test them, and release them with the OS.

Some manufacturers (for whatever reasons unbeknown to us) do not want to submit Drivers and perfer that the user will download thier Drivers from other sources.

So if the Drivers that came with the OS works well there is No reason to look for an "Holy Grail".

Component's Drivers' health can be check by looking at the OS' Device Manager.

More info about installed components and their drivers can be also obtained by using this free portable App.

http://pci-z.com/ (Downloads at the end of the page)>




Thanks. Everything seems to be running fine (except for the Firefox issue I posted about in another thread) so I guess I'll just stick with what W10 installed for my older hardware...although I did install video drivers direct from AMD/ATI.
 

IGBT

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I installed win 10 on Dell Inspiron laptop (win 7) and Dell i7 XPS desktop (8.1). The laptop on reboot results in a black screen after pass word. Cycling the power button sometimes restores the desktop. The Dell desktop XPS 8700 i7 boots very slow..it was very fast with win 8.1 and when finally boots up the screen flickers to black then back to desktop. The restart function results in complete shutdown requiring power button cycle. I restored both of them back to win 7 and win 8.1.
 
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pcgeek11

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Updated a self built desktop and a Lenovo T540P Notebook from Windows 8.1 Pro and Windows 8.1 respectively and both were smooth seamless and run perfectly. The only application that needed updating was Start is back menu for Windows 10.
 

Eug

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I have one Q8400 running Win 10 Pro with No problems.

Another one goes into perpetual Win 10 installation fail.

I can not figure out "yet" why it is failing because the two computers are Basically identical hardware wise.

One is In-place upgrade fro Win 7 Ulti
(success) and the Failing has Win 8.1 Pro installed.

I think that Microsoft took a "Childish"
approach to Windows 10 Free Upgrade Available in 190 Countries Today

At the moment I am giving it a week or two to calm down.

If it is persist to mid August I'll have to take it seriously.

Works fine on my laptop, the install has failed 3X in a row now on my dual-core Atom machine. It always fails at the 2nd boot phase. This is driving me nuts because it doesn't actually explain why it's failing. Where is the error log for this located?



I'm wondering if I should continue to troubleshoot, or if I just wait.

The machine is a dual-core Atom 330 1.6 GHz 64-bit, with 4 GB RAM, and Intel Sandforce-based consumer SSD. (Can't remember the model number off-hand.) Currently it runs Win 7 Home.

Note though the machine can't actually address 4 GB. It shows up as something like 3.1 GB, some of which is eaten up by the GPU. Could this be an issue? I'm thinking I'd be better off with sticking with 64-bit Windows 7 than going to 32-bit Windows 10, and it's likely this has nothing to do with my install issues anyway.
 

Puffnstuff

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Well I was having some issues with my clean install of windows 10 and it turns out that I made the mistake of not disconnecting all of my hd's except for the OS drive and MS, in the usual fashion, took it upon itself to place system files across them. I ended up performing yet another clean install with only the bdrw and ssd attached which cured the problem. I'm in the process of reinstalling everything else and it will be correct this time. Please learn from my mistake and only clean install with the media and target drives attached to the pc.
 

JackMDS

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Remember Microsoft are Not aware of a lot of "Kinky" stuff that We Enthusiasts tend to do.

Make sure that the Updates of the Win7/8 are set auto so there will a clear connection to Microsoft servers.

If you different type of security and Apps that blocks connection, disable them for the Upgrade.

If you have Many Apps that load at start up get them out of the Startup for the upgrade.

If you have "strange Hardware" that uses Drivers sent to you by Spock from Vulcan get rid of it for the Upgrade's duration.

Whatever they say does not matter, make sure that you have at least 20GB empty space on the drive.

Remember Microsoft are Not aware of the "Kinky" stuff that us Enthusiasts tend to do,

cCleaner Tools has an Uninstall feature as well as Start that can help to see and disable the "Kinky stuff".



 
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Eug

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Anyone able to install this successfully on a Revo R3610 and/or an Intel 330 SSD? I've troubleshooted all that I can, except for removing the SSD and replacing it with a platter drive.
 

Puffnstuff

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Windows 10 has officially received its eviction notice from my desktop which is now back up on a healthy uefi 8.1 pro x64 install. In comparison 8.1 is blazing fast and everything works right so now I'm going to leave well enough alone and focus on school.
 

escrow4

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Anyone able to install this successfully on a Revo R3610 and/or an Intel 330 SSD? I've troubleshooted all that I can, except for removing the SSD and replacing it with a platter drive.

Checked the BIOS settings? Is there anything related to boot/UEFI options that could be affecting the install?
 

NuclearNed

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Last night I upgraded from Win7 on my ASUS N61JQ laptop... the upgrade itself went pretty well, but I'm having some sort of problem with the display - the laptop display doesn't work, but I can hook the laptop up to my TV via HDMI just fine. Sometimes, at random intervals, the HDMI connection seems to fail, but can easily be reset. At first I thought this was due to the display driver, so I downloaded the latest Catalyst package & installed it - no luck. After thinking about it for a while, I think the issue is that I need to install the most recent ATK package from ASUS - it's a software package that enables ASUS-specific hardware functionality. Stuff I've read online seems to suggest that I'm on the right path, so I'll try tonight & see if that fixes my issues.
 

Eug

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Checked the BIOS settings? Is there anything related to boot/UEFI options that could be affecting the install?

I wouldn't know what to look for, but I looked there and didn't see anything out of the ordinary. However, I've since removed the SSD and replaced it with a platter drive and the install still failed. So finally I wiped Win 7 and started over with a clean factory install of Windows 7. (The Win 7 install went fine of course.) I will try installing Win 10 over that. (Perhaps there was something weird in my previous Win 7 install that was screwing up the install.) If that doesn't work, I'll wait for the SR1 ISO release and try yet again.
 

Underclocked

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I'm still trying to figure out exactly what it is that is upgraded from Windows 8.1, aside from a heaping helping of built in spyware/adware.
 
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