Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

[SparkyJJO]

Yes.

 

[boomerang]

Here is a question. Say I have a system with Windows 8.1 and have the included install/rescue DVD that came with the system. And I also have a spare WD drive (same hdd as in the system).

Can I remove my system drive, install Windows 8.1 from the DVD onto the spare drive I'll swap in, run all updates and get the Windows 10 upgrade notice, then upgrade and try it out.

If I like it, okay it stays. If I don't, I just swap the drives and go back to 8.1.

Doable? Or no? I really don't want to risk fubaring the system. It would be terrific to do it as I describe to test this all out.

Yes, but you've got some extra steps in there that you don't need to do. Just install 8.1, activate it and download 10 using the Windows Media Creation Tool. There is no need to install any 8.1 updates and then wait until you get the upgrade notice. It's a far quicker path to the same end result.

You could in fact download 10 right now and have it at the wait after you activate your new 8.1 install. Just be sure to download the version that is an upgrade path from the version you have.

Edit: On second thought, it may be six of one, half a dozen of the other. I cloned my Win7 install to a spare SSD and then did an in-place upgrade from that. I was prompted during the Win10 install asking if I wanted to download updates. I chose to do so. If updates are not present in 8.1, I assume they will be downloaded and installed during the Win10 upgrade. Which is quicker I guess is the question? I don't know although my gut says it may be better to let Win10 get just the updates it wants.

 

[Ketchup]

For my desktop I am going to clone it to a spare drive and do the upgrade on the spare. Try a few things and see how they do. The SSD in the desktop is staying on 7 for now, but if/when I want 10 on that, I can just do the upgrade on the existing drive, knowing it will work.

FWIW, I did the upgrade from 7 to 10 on my laptop and it was painless.

 

[boomerang]

For my desktop I am going to clone it to a spare drive and do the upgrade on the spare. Try a few things and see how they do. The SSD in the desktop is staying on 7 for now, but if/when I want 10 on that, I can just do the upgrade on the existing drive, knowing it will work.

FWIW, I did the upgrade from 7 to 10 on my laptop and it was painless.

Once I got the procedure right in my mind (thanks to this thread) my desktop in-place on a cloned SSD went off without a hitch. It was actually pretty nice to not have to reinstall everything. I should say that my computers are just for general all-around use and I'm not concerned with wringing out the last bit of performance.

I have three more to do but I'll wait until they get notification. The desktop, which I use infrequently was the test bed. I would like to do an in-place on all of them but I'm probably going to clone them all first.

 

[JackMDS]

Doable? Or no? I really don't want to risk fubaring the system. It would be terrific to do it as I describe to test this all out.

Image to an external Drive your current system (takes less than minutes with Boot DVD like Acronis TI).

Then if "Fubar". Ghost back the Original (another 8-10 Min.).

All together 20 Mini extra and you can even watch your favorite "Soap" opera on TV while doing so.

 

[Matt_Stevens]

Image to anexternal Drive your current system (takes less than minutes with Boot DVD like Acronis TI).

Then if "Fubar". Ghost back the Original (another 8-10 Min.).

All together 20 Mini extra and you can even watch your favorite "Soap" opera on TV while doing so.

lol those damned soaps.

Okay so I essentially have two choices. Question is, which one. I'll think on it and decide. Thanks for the advice. Appreciate it.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I am about to shut down and perform a clean install on my desktop so I'll have to change my sig lol.

Edit: The deed is done and 10 pro 64 bit works like a charm. The uni drivers work perfect on my asus xonar d2x and the sound is as good as ever. Just taking some time to put all of my software back and get it ready to go back to class tomorrow. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences with the update.

 

[Toro 45]

No problem installing on my laptops but I'm getting this error on my desktop install "we couldn't update the system reserved partition" any ideas?

I found a solution to this error I was getting with the Win10 upgrade, follow this link in case you have the same problem http://www.daringcoders.com/2015/01/windows-10-9926-technical-preview-issue/

 

[JimmiG]

I had huge issues upgrading from Win7. In the end I simply purchased a Win10 Home key and installed completely fresh. The installation went smoothly this time, and everything seems to work

-My old Delta1010LT PCI audio interface works fine with the Win 7 drivers

-NVELO Dataplex for my OCZ Synapse SSD cache drive installed in Win7 compatibility mode and seems to work fine

-SpeedFan works with the same .cfg's and can start as a service just like Win7

-The driver Win10 insists on downloading for my USB Wifi stick only works with 2.4 GHz APs. However there seems to be workarounds to prevent forced driver updates

-Game shortcuts under the Steam folder in the start menu don't show up when searching. Maybe it just needs more time to index?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Why would you purchase a key when it is free in the first place? When you had your borked install you could've extracted the 10 key, written it down and then clean installed using it. That is what I did on my desktop when it was fubar so I could get the key which is exactly the same as the key for my laptop. Apparently MS is using the hardware ID along with my log in to determine which machine it is. My tablet has a different key but it is 32 bit home and the other two are 64 bit pro.

 

[tidy]

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[Puffnstuff]

That's what I though when I purchased vista ultimate only to find out later that Microsoft locked my key out after I reached 23 installs which they called "abusive". I had hardware failures, reactivations after bios updates (yes vista required reactivation several times after a bios update) which completely broke me of wanting another retail package. I do have a retail 7 ultimate 64 bit laying around but it's up for sale as I do not plan on rolling back on any OS install I have. Everything is now on 10 and I'm happy with it since they all look just like 7 with classic shell and 8gadgetpack installed.

 

[MaxPower83]

I don't know why i can't upgrade to Win 10

i have a rig with win 7 Home premium 64 bit, the windows update tried three times already to download and run the upgrade but it failed with these code errors (8024402C and 80240020) . I tried also with the Microsoft Update Tool , but it stops saying an error has occured and restart the pc and download it again. I did it several times , but nothing changed.

 

[Puffnstuff]

Use the media creation tool and let it create a bootable usb drive. Once done insert the usb drive and launch the installer and let it perform the in place upgrade. You have to perform the in place in order to activate your particular machine with ms and then you can come back and clean install it later. Make sure the get a key extractor and write down your installation key for later. I used produkey to get mine plus it will give you all key's for installed ms products which are accurate. Magic jelly bean produced the wrong keys for me so I stopped using it.

 

[pauldun170]

Following upgrades completed
1. Q9550\EP45-UDP3\GTX570
Method - Download tool
Results - Upgrade process was smooth. One Issue with VMWare player bridgemode which was resolved with reinstall of vmplayer. One weird quirk with excel spreadsheet in compatibility mode where chinese characters show up in certain fields

2. i3-2100\ Asrock z68m usb3\hd7770
Method - Download tool
Results - Upgrade process was smooth. Notice that icons are much larger than under windows 7. Resolution was correct. Everything appeared to be set properly. This is my media center so its hooked up to TV. After sitting down on the couch to ponder why icons are larger, noticed screen+ larger icons are actually much easier to read and overall it just looks better. Chalk it up to an "interesting" coincidence.
Update - Issue with 360 controller for windows wireless. Went into device manger and uninstalled, rebooted. On reboot, it reinstalled and works fine

3. Dell Inspiron 15 with Broadwell+touchscreen
Method - Download tool
Results - Upgrade process was smooth. Everything worked

4. i72700+Asrock z77 extreme4+gtx7800
Methods - Download tool, registry hack (allowosupgrade switch), iso
Results - Using above three methods first round -> 1900101-30018 error. Installer failed in FIRST_BOOT phase during sysprep
After disabling Net 3.5 framework and choosing NOT to download updates during install process, upgrade succeeded.

Lessons learned - VMware player bridgemode breaks during upgrade. On a weekend filled with beautiful weather, don't waste time upgrading. Wait until it raining.

 

[us3rnotfound]

Does Windows 7 have to be updated completely before performing the win10 upgrade? It keeps failing for me on an AMD Phenom X4 platform. Just installed win7, activated, and am trying to do the Win10 upgrade with no success.

 

[pauldun170]

Does Windows 7 have to be updated completely before performing the win10 upgrade? It keeps failing for me on an AMD Phenom X4 platform. Just installed win7, activated, and am trying to do the Win10 upgrade with no success.

I think the consensus is that you should fully update prior to upgrading.

 

[us3rnotfound]

I think the consensus is that you should fully update prior to upgrading.

Cool, I'm on ~70 of 197

 

[MaxPower83]

Use the media creation tool and let it create a bootable usb drive. Once done insert the usb drive and launch the installer and let it perform the in place upgrade. You have to perform the in place in order to activate your particular machine with ms and then you can come back and clean install it later. Make sure the get a key extractor and write down your installation key for later. I used produkey to get mine plus it will give you all key's for installed ms products which are accurate. Magic jelly bean produced the wrong keys for me so I stopped using it.

I'm a newbie for these things , so i decided to stick with win7. I'll upgrade later.
Thanks for the tips anyway.

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Does Windows 7 have to be updated completely before performing the win10 upgrade? It keeps failing for me on an AMD Phenom X4 platform. Just installed win7, activated, and am trying to do the Win10 upgrade with no success.

No. I had to wipe out my Game Rig OS (win7) and reinstall it. Didn't do ANY updates, used the tool, install when extremely smooth. No issues so far with Windows 10 Pro 64

 

[pauldun170]

Does Windows 7 have to be updated completely before performing the win10 upgrade? It keeps failing for me on an AMD Phenom X4 platform. Just installed win7, activated, and am trying to do the Win10 upgrade with no success.

No. I had to wipe out my Game Rig OS (win7) and reinstall it. Didn't do ANY updates, used the tool, install when extremely smooth. No issues so far with Windows 10 Pro 64

us3rnotfound,
Whats the error you are getting? What code?

 

[Fingolfin269]

Just finished an upgrade to 10 from a fairly fresh 8.1 install. Anyone find a significant reason to do a completely fresh install? I know that's basically the way of the past just curious if it's really necessary.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I was having issues with office in my 8 month old 8.1 install so I went ahead and wiped her out plus I installed on a new ssd. I've always found that a clean install turns out better in the long run and I'd installed and uninstalled so much stuff that my registry was cluttered up with junk that needed to go.

 

[BlueWeasel]

I just installed Win10 RTM a few weeks ago. I'd rather not do a clean install.

Would this work:
1) Image current Win10 RTM setup
2) Install clean Win8.1 and activate
3) Run Win10 upgrade inside Win8.1 to generate hardware hash/key
4) Restore Win10 RTM image
5) Reactivate Win10

Would the system recognize the hardware hash after the restore?

Did this last night and it worked perfectly.

I clicked "Change Product Key" in Win10 after the image restore and entered the product key from the upgrade. The key is generic but it was accepted and activation using my hardware key/hash worked fine.

 

[Puffnstuff]

So where did you get a generic key from? When I checked the keys for both of my pro installs they each had the same key but activated without issue.