Win 10 Install and Upgrade-Preview Future Release 1703. Aka Creators Edition.

[Puffnstuff]

I would suggest that everyone on 10 go to windows update and click on advanced settings and uncheck the distribute to pc's on the internet option.

 

[Eug]

I would suggest that everyone on 10 go to windows update and click on advanced settings and uncheck the distribute to pc's on the internet option.

Thanks. Already did that. One of the first things I did was to go thru the settings one by one. There is a LOT that needs to be turned off.

I guess it's not quite as bad in some ways as having to delete the bloatware that comes with so many Windows computers, but in some ways it is worse.

 

[SimMike2]

Two for two on Windows 7 machines where the Windows 10 install fails.

 

[Eug]

Two for two on Windows 7 machines where the Windows 10 install fails.

Ouch. What are the machines?

 

[Brian Stirling]

I have at least 5 functioning PC's running various versions of Win7 and I'm thinking about updating one of my older, more-or-less retired laptops, to test Win10 before updating my other PC's. So, just to be clear, the update is on a per PC per license basis -- right? I mean I don't want M$ to think because I'm updating a 4 year old laptop that I'm therefore going to update the other machines.

Also, how big of a thumbdrive do you need to do an update? Would 16GB cover any and all configs?


Brian

 

[JEDIYoda]

Two for two on Windows 7 machines where the Windows 10 install fails.

That's not a windows issue...its a user issue...

 

[stars]

Brain, the upgrade is per PC. A 4GB USB will suffice.

If you decide to upgrade all machines you can use the same thumb drive to do a clean install afterwards (if you prefer that over simply upgrading).

 

[pcgeek11]

Updated my I5 Lenovo T540P with 8 GB Ram and Samsung SSD Drive to Windows 10 for a week. Dumped it and went back to Windows 8.1 which runs much much better IMO. It may have been due to an update rather than a clean installation IDK. I may try it again later after the dust settles more with a clean installation.

I found that it was slower and seemed to hickup quite often where it was unresponsive for a second or two.

 

[Ketchup]

Two for two on Windows 7 machines where the Windows 10 install fails.

Just remember that there are stiffer hardware requirements here, so while you can go back pretty far with the upgrade, it is still stuffer than the requirements for 7.

 

[NuclearNed]

Can anyone boot into "Safe Mode with Networking" and confirm that they actually have networking capabilities? I'm having some pretty serious trouble with my W10 upgrade, and I need to download/install some drivers & other hardware specific software while in Safe Mode. I have no networking functionality. A quick googling shows that others are having the same problem...

 

[Puffnstuff]

I am having periodic connectivity issues while logging into my laptop on 10 pro x64 and it will not accept my password unless it is connected to the net. When I check my adaptor it is connected but 10 says it is not. If I force a reconnection then I can log into my account and load windows. Microsoft needs to abandon this feature and allow users to input their passwords at the local level in the absence of connectivity by default.

The issue I was having with my laptop seems to stem from my use of 8gadgetpack causing my amd 15.7.1 gpu driver to crash when the sidebar loaded. I've uninstalled it and replaced it with 7 sidebar which has worked correctly each and every time I've booted my laptop so I am relieved there. I've also removed it from my desktop and replaced it with 7 sidebar which also works correctly. I really wish that I could get 10 to run stable on my desktop as going back to 8.1 has restored both stability and speed to it. No issues with loosing my keyboards since switching back and all software functions correctly so far. My boot time is back to the expedience that a Samsung 850 pro is known for so I am happy about that as well. Funny thing is that 10 on my laptop is the fastest booting machine that I have. I get my login screen in 5 seconds from a cold boot and the desktop is immediate after I hit enter after entering my password. Even my tablet is immediate with 10 home 32 bit taking about 20 seconds total from post to desktop logon included.

 

[Brian Stirling]

Brain, the upgrade is per PC. A 4GB USB will suffice.

If you decide to upgrade all machines you can use the same thumb drive to do a clean install afterwards (if you prefer that over simply upgrading).

But you have to do an inline update on all machines first -- right?


Brian

 

[stars]

But you have to do an inline update on all machines first -- right?


Brian

Right.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I am an idiot and a glutton for punishment. I just finished an in place upgrade through windows update which went well and all of my programs are present and accounted for this time. The boot is not as quick as with 8.1 and some of the start ups are not showing in the task tray. I've seen the reoccurring issue with iTunes not allowing the task bar to auto hide. I'm going to give this a shot and I do so knowing that I can roll back to 8.1 within 30 days if things don't work out.

 

[Traxan]

Question: if you do the install now, does it grab the SR1 fixes during the installation and add them, or do you have to pray the install works and then download SR1?

 

[Puffnstuff]

Just as quickly as I tried 10 again I've rolled back to 8.1. When it upgraded everything seemed okay but once I started trying some things, like my gadgets, I couldn't get them to work. Even uninstalling and reinstalling didn't work so once I realized that it is hopeless for my hardware I rolled her back and won't be bothered with it anymore.

As for sr1 it's supposed to grab all available updated files during the installation process but mine didn't work out well enough. At least it didn't lose office this last time but I cannot be without everything working properly.

 

[werepossum]

Did anyone get an authoritative answer about whether the free Win10 upgrade converts an older full retail license into an OEM license tied to the motherboard? (i.e. "life of the device") I've seen Microsoft responses supporting both views and it's not a trivial question to me.

Also, to dual boot 7 and 10 one cannot get a free upgrade but must buy a second copy, correct?

 

[SparkyJJO]

Did anyone get an authoritative answer about whether the free Win10 upgrade converts an older full retail license into an OEM license tied to the motherboard? (i.e. "life of the device") I've seen Microsoft responses supporting both views and it's not a trivial question to me.

Also, to dual boot 7 and 10 one cannot get a free upgrade but must buy a second copy, correct?

Yes.... Been posted like a dozen times by now.

There is no conversion from retail to OEM. Whoever started that rumor should be shot

EULA explicitly states stand-alone software (aka retail) remains standalone and can be transferred, whether bought as a retail copy or a previous version retail copy being upgraded.

4. Transfer. The provisions of this section do not apply if you acquired the software as a consumer in Germany or in any of the countries listed on this site (aka.ms/transfer), in which case any transfer of the software to a third party, and the right to use it, must comply with applicable law.
a. Software preinstalled on device. If you acquired the software preinstalled on a device (and also if you upgraded from software preinstalled on a device), you may transfer the license to use the software directly to another user, only with the licensed device. The transfer must include the software and, if provided with the device, an authentic Windows label including the product key. Before any permitted transfer, the other party must agree that this agreement applies to the transfer and use of the software.
b. Stand-alone software. If you acquired the software as stand-alone software (and also if you upgraded from software you acquired as stand-alone software), you may transfer the software to another device that belongs to you. You may also transfer the software to a device owned by someone else if (i) you are the first licensed user of the software and (ii) the new user agrees to the terms of this agreement. You may use the backup copy we allow you to make or the media that the software came on to transfer the software. Every time you transfer the software to a new device, you must remove the software from the prior device. You may not transfer the software to share licenses between devices.

As far as dual booting, well, I'd be tempted to say that since you're only ever running one operating system at one time, then you should be able to dual boot the Windows 7 and the 10 upgrade from that Windows 7 license. It does say on the device, not installation after all.

 

[Puffnstuff]

I had to hit the 10 upgrade in windows update to stop it from forcing itself on me. I just happened to check WU and it was in the process of trying to install itself right after I'd rolled back to 8.1 and hiding it was the only way to stop it. Microsoft needs to release a seriously updated version of the installer for machines like mine.

 

[Chaotic0ne]

Just upgraded from windows 7 to windows 10. Boot times go from 25-30s in windows 7 to 1:30-2:30 in Windows 10. Windows 10 is horrifically slow. I check my event log and its spammed with event log errors. More than 20 errors. So many that I can't even begin to tackle these issues. I'm rolling back to 7. Upgrading to windows 10 caused these errors. Everything from Microsoft OOBE security errors to TCP network errors, and none of the usual fixes for those that worked in 7 work in 10, so I'm completely out of options here.

 

[gradoman]

Found a problem with the latest Intel RST drivers (14.X) with my RAID0 setup -- they cause the drives to go off within seconds (LPM is enabled and aggressive as heck) and turn on. It was nonstop click-click-click and I thought my drives were dying. Checked them out by plugging them into another non 10 system and they were fine so I searched and found that you have to install an older driver -- 12.9 -- and switch ports to get around this issue.

Was about _ this close to buying an SSD to replace the array. Didn't really want to spend the cash for a 1TB drive though, lol.

 

[Traxan]

Well no sound again, just like the beta. FFS how can a vendor like Creative not be supported?

During playback, the volume meters are going, just no audio. So it's like playback with the speakers off. WinAMP and iTunes both recognize the songs and playback levels. It's like the speakers are off, except they aren't. I checked.

I downloaded the 3.4 drivers as well. So I'm out of ideas. Any help would be appreciated.

 

[Hugh Jass]

Well no sound again, just like the beta. FFS how can a vendor like Creative not be supported?

What Creative device are you using?

I have an old original Audigy that I run my headphones off of while everything else is handled by onboard sound and I have had no issues.

When I did my clean install of W10 it detected the Audigy and installed the proper drivers for it with no issues whatsoever.

 

[Traxan]

Update: let there be sound! I went into the device manager and totally removed the sound card, drivers and all. Then I reinstalled the SB drivers, rebooted, and there was sound.

 

[werepossum]

Yes.... Been posted like a dozen times by now.

There is no conversion from retail to OEM. Whoever started that rumor should be shot

EULA explicitly states stand-alone software (aka retail) remains standalone and can be transferred, whether bought as a retail copy or a previous version retail copy being upgraded.

As far as dual booting, well, I'd be tempted to say that since you're only ever running one operating system at one time, then you should be able to dual boot the Windows 7 and the 10 upgrade from that Windows 7 license. It does say on the device, not installation after all.

Thanks!