Win 2k SP3 is out, Win 2k SP3 is out, Win 2k SP3 is out

[Adul]

Win 2k SP3

Like with all MS SP, proceed with caution

 

[crazydave]

Is this the "final" released version or some sort of prerelease?...just wondering cuz it's not listed on the MS page yet, and I don't want to bother trying it out till it's completely ready...

 

[Adul]

it says it is the final version/

 

[TNTrulez]

What does it do?

 

[DefRef]

Is this an all-inclusive, one-shot SP or do we need to apply the others first?

 

[RalfHutter]

All M$ SP's include all prior hotfixes. SP3 includes everything from SP1 and SP2.

 

[Muse]

Prerelease today to major customers. General release to the public is supposed to happen Thursday. Here's a story. I'm downloading it right now - 125 MB.

 

[SteelyKen]

Installed it on my second machine and everything looks good!


Ok Ok, so I've had it only five minutes, but everything looks good!

 

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: RalfHutter
All M$ SP's include all prior hotfixes. SP3 includes everything from SP1 and SP2.

wrong!

in the case of NT, active desktop is available only through sp4 & not through sp5/6/6a

 

[kt]

I would've thought a lot of people are downloading it right now. I am getting 450KB/s downloading speed.. guess not a lot people are downloading from the server right now.

 

[Jace]

Whitecloak,

To set the record straight, it was IE 4.0 that introduced Active Desktop for Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 95, not SP4!!

I install NT 4.0, then SP6a, then IE 6.0 and I get the Active Desktop, courtesy of a little known trick to edit the iesetup.cif file in the temp folder during installation.

Again, it had nothing to do with the service packs, and yes, all Microsoft OS Service packs are cumulative, that's written all over MS's websites, you can't miss it.

 

[techwanabe]

Originally posted by: RalfHutter
All M$ SP's include all prior hotfixes. SP3 includes everything from SP1 and SP2.

All? What about the NT service packs? In my NT40 MCSE training, they stressed that the NT service packs HAD to be applied one after the other. If you hadn't appied SP1-3, you couldn't apply SP4. Unless they were lieing to us. Now things have changed since then. I believe with SP6a, they included all prior service packs. But it was a good question due to the early NT service packs.

 

[grrl]

It's not an OS, but the service packs for Office aren't cumulative either.

 

[madthumbs]

I've heard that this includes the fix for the nvidia refresh rate problem.

 

[Jace]

Yes, ALL.

They may not have been lying to you, but certainly were ignorant. What a waste of time, I thought everybody knew that OS service packs were cumulative, it says so in every release, time after time, but all the time you see in newsgroups like this, "do I have to install all the others SP's first?"

Only non-OS SP's are non-cumulative. Not only that, with Win2k and higher, service packs don't have to be reapplied after installing new components from Windows Setup (such as new networking services) because the OS recognizes that an SP has been installed and gets the files from the SP.

Info about service packs

"Service Packs are Comprehensive

Service packs have a significantly larger scope than patches. This can be measured in three ways:

Service packs address a wide variety of bugs. Every service pack addresses not only security bugs, but also bugs affecting stability, performance, proper operation of product features, or other areas. In contrast, a patch is tightly focused on one and only one issue.
Service packs resolve minor as well as major bugs. On the other hand, we know that customers have things they'd rather be doing than installing patches, so we only develop patches for issues that warrant the disruption they cause.
Service packs are cumulative. Every service pack is a "roll-up" of all previous service packs for that product ? for instance, Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 6a includes every change made in Service Packs 1 through 5. Moreover, whenever we release a patch, we always include it in the next available service pack. "

 

[apoppin]

Originally posted by: kt
I would've thought a lot of people are downloading it right now. I am getting 450KB/s downloading speed.. guess not a lot people are downloading from the server right now.

Gee, it took me only 5 hours on dial-up . . .

ANybody else have more than 5 minutes experience with it?

 

[lowtech1]

I though that an Elite would know better than cross forums post :Q

NEF: Operating Systems

 

[Adul]

jace up until SP4 for NT you had to install all the prior services packs for NT4. It was in MS readme file. I hated going that too

 

[Whitecloak]

Originally posted by: Jace
Whitecloak,

To set the record straight, it was IE 4.0 that introduced Active Desktop for Windows NT 4.0 and Windows 95, not SP4!!

I install NT 4.0, then SP6a, then IE 6.0 and I get the Active Desktop, courtesy of a little known trick to edit the iesetup.cif file in the temp folder during installation.

Again, it had nothing to do with the service packs, and yes, all Microsoft OS Service packs are cumulative, that's written all over MS's websites, you can't miss it.

my point is that a feature which is there in sp4 ( as you say ie4 with active desktop) is not present in sp6a, that is, I dont get active desktop automatically by installing sp6a

 

[Jace]

You don't get Active Desktop automatically with NT SP4 either, that's my point.

 

[Jace]

jace up until SP4 for NT you had to install all the prior services packs for NT4. It was in MS readme file. I hated going that too

No, MS OS Service Packs are cumulative, always have been and probably always will be. Too bad so many people wasted so much time rebooting...

Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 3 Readme.txt File

"1.0 INTRODUCTION
-----------------
Service Pack 3 for Microsoft Windows NT 4.0 is easy to install from
within Windows NT and changes only those files that were originally
set up on the Windows NT Workstation or Windows NT Server system.
Service Pack releases are cumulative: they contain all previous fixes
and any new fixes made to the system."

See Also:

List of Bugs Fixed in Windows NT 4.0 Service Pack 1, 2, and 3

"This article is a list of the article numbers for bugs that were fixed in Service Packs 1, 2, and 3 for Windows NT 4.0. Service packs are cumulative. This means that the bugs fixed in a service pack are also fixed in subsequent service packs. Use the Qxxxxxx number that precedes the title of the bug fix to query the Microsoft Knowledge Base to find an article about that bug."

 

[ThurzNite]

just goto windows update....it's listed there along with a buncha other windows updates.
Jae

 

[geoff2k]

Any reviews of this yet? Either the Inquirer or the Register had an article complaning about a few bad installs, but I haven't found any other news either way...

 

[NicColt]

BTW SP3 also has the same EULA as the recent WMP security fix....

"Microsoft has significantly changed their terms and conditions, with this paragraph: "The OS Product or OS Components contain components that enable and facilitate the use of certain Internet-based services. You acknowledge and agree that Microsoft may automatically check the version of the OS Product and/or its components that you are utilizing and may provide upgrades or fixes to the OS Product that will be automatically downloaded to your computer."

He said that acceptance of this means Microsoft can now auto-download code to W2K computers, without authorisation or knowledge, and he's decided not to install the patch because of the change. SP2's Ts&Cs had no such stipulation"

Nice eh.. I'm quite sure that XP's SP1 will have the same thing.

 

[bot2600]

That EULA is there for the autoupdater that can be set to automatically download fixes and install them, download then and tell you they are ready, or do not download at all...come out from under the bed, there is nothing scary here...