Win10 reaction to turning things off

[Blintok]

Video of what happens in Windows 10 when you start turning off privacy settings and removing default programs and apps

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=c8N72t7aScY

 

[Newbian]

It's ok as skynet killed everyone before you could remove everything thanks to you.

 

[Crono]

I love the people who got all up in arms over Windows 10 privacy concerns (most of which isn't data collection for the sake of spying, but to improve the platform) but meanwhile are oblivious to the smartphones and apps they use sucking down all sorts of data without clear disclosures and/or way to opt out or disable those features.

If you are paranoid or at least aware about both desktop and mobile privacy concerns, then good for you.

 

[rh71]

^ I set WIN10 up on my parents' laptops who don't otherwise use technology... I want to know & learn about those privacy settings.

 

[readymix]

"take a stress pill" "i'm your friend, your pal. you can trust me"

 

[John Connor]

Evil NSA!

Pats the back on companies.

Yeah, that makes sense.

 

[balloonshark]

Win10 is smarter than Hal 9000 because the forced updates will just reset your changes. Resistance is futile.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I should start worrying when Windows 10 randomly starts installing itself on this server.



It's for my home automation stuff. Thankfully it does not control doors yet.

 

[Jeff7]

I should start worrying when Windows 10 randomly starts installing itself on this server.



It's for my home automation stuff. Thankfully it does not control doors yet.

They're sure trying though.

I set Windows to download updates and ask me to install them.

At some point I discovered a folder with well over 2 gigabytes of data in it. Evidently it was a starter Windows 10 install package, courtesy of Windows Update. Good thing I'm not paying by the gigabyte right now, or on a connection like I had in the college dorm, where the weekly download limit was only about 2-4GB/week.
Dicks. They really want everyone on Win10.

Windows Update is now on a tighter leash.

 

[Red Squirrel]

I wonder if Microsoft is trying to make friends with open source so they can eventually sneak in some code in the Linux kernel. Windows 10 downloader built right in. /conspiracy theory

 

[bradly1101]

Just yesterday I was listening to my brother express his derision at Win 10 pop-ups on his Win 7 desktop and Win 8 laptop when we visited, so I told him that if his DSL(!) has been acting slow it was because MS was downloading Win 10 to his machine surreptitiously. He said, "Whaaaat?" I showed him how to unhide files and folders, and there it was. The folder size was 4.5GB!!! Imagine downloading that much (9GB) to two machines over DSL, one via DSL>WiFi!

He was pissed! So I showed him how to disable all that. Why does MS hate its "customers?"

 

[escrow4]

Just yesterday I was listening to my brother express his derision at Win 10 pop-ups on his Win 7 desktop and Win 8 laptop when we visited, so I told him that if his DSL(!) has been acting slow it was because MS was downloading Win 10 to his machine surreptitiously. He said, "Whaaaat?" I showed him how to unhide files and folders, and there it was. The folder size was 4.5GB!!! Imagine downloading that much (9GB) to two machines over DSL, one via DSL>WiFi!

He was pissed! So I showed him how to disable all that. Why does MS hate its "customers?"

With games cracking 40GB or 50GB, 9GB is rather pfft actually.

 

[bradly1101]

With games cracking 40GB or 50GB, 9GB is rather pfft actually.

Over DSL?

 

[LTC8K6]

Over DSL?

Why are you denying the total superiority of Win10?

Do it all the time at work with gigabyte sized files on a 1.5/.5 dsl / wifi connection.

(Which is actually 1.3/.3 in reality)

It doesn't seem to noticeably slow surfing.

The Win10 updates went smoothly.

 

[JTsyo]

Too bad MS didn't have the foresight to place a clause in their EULA saying they reserve the right to upgrade your version of windows. Maybe next time.

 

[11thHour]

I love the people who got all up in arms over Windows 10 privacy concerns

Sometimes less is more. Just spread the love.

 

[ultimatebob]

Too bad MS didn't have the foresight to place a clause in their EULA saying they reserve the right to upgrade your version of windows. Maybe next time.

I'd imagine that's in the Windows 10 EULA, though. Windows is basically considered to a SaaS (Software as a Service) product by Microsoft now. They are already rolling out new (10.1?) features to Insider customers.

 

[WelshBloke]

I love the people who got all up in arms over Windows 10 privacy concerns (most of which isn't data collection for the sake of spying, but to improve the platform)

Wut?

How does that make it any different?

Spying is spying, what you do with it afterwards shouldn't matter but using it t to give you a commercial advantage is not really any excuse at all.

 

[Crono]

Wut?

How does that make it any different?

Spying is spying, what you do with it afterwards shouldn't matter but using it t to give you a commercial advantage is not really any excuse at all.

Data collection can be done for non-spying purposes.

By your logic, AnandTech is spying on you because your login/profile details are in a database and Purch is consorting with third parties to collect even more data for the sake of advertising and who knows what else.

The reason people are upset is because Microsoft had the audacity to be upfront (for legal purposes primarily, I'm sure) about what they are collecting. It's entirely possible they are enfringing on your privacy, but guess what? You can opt not to use their platforms or OS.

I stand by what I said. It's disconcerting that users are so vocal about Microsoft and Windows 10, and yet Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google, and numerous websites and companies know a ton about you and are actively collecting and storing your data, but it's Microsoft that's the only big bad wolf apparently in league with the NSA... or whatever the exact fear is.

Nevermind that the organizations with actual power and physical force are the ones still collecting data covertly and directly, it's the Xbox Live people who are coming to get you.

 

[WelshBloke]

Data collection can be done for non-spying purposes.

By your logic, AnandTech is spying on you because your login/profile details are in a database and Purch is consorting with third parties to collect even more data for the sake of advertising and who knows what else.

I'm curious as to whats your definition of spying? The collection of user data without the user knowledge would appear to me to be spying regardless as to what purpose that data was put to.

The reason people are upset is because Microsoft had the audacity to be upfront (for legal purposes primarily, I'm sure) about what they are collecting. It's entirely possible they are enfringing on your privacy, but guess what? You can opt not to use their platforms or OS.

One of the reasons I'm upset about it is because Microsoft ran a big advertising campaign suggesting that they didnt do exactly this.

I stand by what I said. It's disconcerting that users are so vocal about Microsoft and Windows 10, and yet Amazon, Facebook, Apple, Google, and numerous websites and companies know a ton about you and are actively collecting and storing your data, but it's Microsoft that's the only big bad wolf apparently in league with the NSA... or whatever the exact fear is.

You dont see a difference between websites tracking you and your OS tracking you?

Nevermind that the organizations with actual power and physical force are the ones still collecting data covertly and directly, it's the Xbox Live people who are coming to get you.

So because shadowy government entities may be tracking me I should hand over all my data to whatever company wants it?

Thats an interesting argument.

How about you hand over all your data to me?
You can post it here.

 

[Crono]

I'm curious as to whats your definition of spying? The collection of user data without the user knowledge would appear to me to be spying regardless as to what purpose that data was put to.



One of the reasons I'm upset about it is because Microsoft ran a big advertising campaign suggesting that they didnt do exactly this.



You dont see a difference between websites tracking you and your OS tracking you?



So because shadowy government entities may be tracking me I should hand over all my data to whatever company wants it?

Thats an interesting argument.

How about you hand over all your data to me?
You can post it here.

You use a Google Play Services-free ROM, I take it? Or are you a feature-phone or don't use a cell phone at all?

I've blocked data collecting services using tools and tutorials on my Surface Book and desktop, but I don't assume Microsoft or anyone else isn't able to collect data from my devices.

My argument is that it's a disservice to focus on Microsoft alone when seemingly everthing is collecting data. Most of it (like what Mozilla collects, to give an example) is supposed to be anonymized and opt-out, but I'm not foolish enough to make that assumption.

Microsoft may have changed their privacy stance in the eyes of you and others, but anyone paying any attention realized this was coming when they started building in cloud services. If you want to be mad and cry about it, at least be fair: all these companies are doing it. If that isn't justification, no one is stopping you from using Linux or building your own OS.

 

[WelshBloke]

You use a Google Play Services-free ROM, I take it? Or are you a feature-phone or don't use a cell phone at all?

I use a stock ROM but I'm aware that everything on it is potentially public because that's the way it's always been.

I've blocked data collecting services using tools and tutorials on my Surface Book and desktop, but I don't assume Microsoft or anyone else isn't able to collect data from my devices.

So you're obviously concerned about Microsoft scroogling your data? But you don't want people discussing Microsoft scroogling data?

My argument is that it's a disservice to focus on Microsoft alone when seemingly everthing is collecting data. Most of it (like what Mozilla collects, to give an example) is supposed to be anonymized and opt-out, but I'm not foolish enough to make that assumption.

Microsoft;

A) Made a massive fuss about others doing this giving the impression that they wouldn't.
B) Microsoft run my desktop OS. Not just my browser, not just my email. My OS. They have access to everything.

Microsoft may have changed their privacy stance in the eyes of you and others, but anyone paying any attention realized this was coming when they started building in cloud services. If you want to be mad and cry about it, at least be fair: all these companies are doing it. If that isn't justification, no one is stopping you from using Linux or building your own OS.

So if we don't say anything we can't complain and if we do say anything we are just crying about it?

Serious question, if you don't care about this why are you posting about it?