Win2k not shutting down

[Vas_Deferens]

It's not hanging up, it just displays a message stating that it's safe to turn off pc. Well, I don't have an off switch on the box, so do I have to unplug the pc everytime I want to shut down? I know it's petty, but it annoys me. Thanks

VD

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[jsbush]

Try reseting the defaults in your bois and making sure that power management is enabled and working properly.

 

[divide]

this is no problem at all. go to control panel and press the power options icon. at that point go to the APM tap, NOTE: you must be logged on as an administrator to do this. in that tap there is a apm box enable that and that will fix the problem. if the box is graydout that means that your system does not support the apm standart

 

[Orbit]

I have the exact same problem as Vas_Deferens, only I had it the other way around. After installing Windows 2000 on my system (along with SP1, etc..), I would go to Start > Shutdown, and select shutdown, and the system would act like it was about to shut down, and suddenly restart again - meaning I could not shut it down at all.

The only way I could resolve this was to un-tick the APM mode box, but of course this does now leave me with the &quot;It is now safe...&quot; message and I have to switch it off myself. I have a feeling Windows 2000 doesn't much care for my motherboard (ASUS P5A) and BIOS....

Doesn't seem to be anything I can do about this!

 

[mariner]

Same problem here, Vas. But I have no APM tab to check in CP. I assume all versions of 2k are the same? I am running 2k Pro 2195. Anyway, it just goes to the 'safe to turn system off' message. I haven't been into bios yet. Will repost when I do.

 

[mariner]

I enabled pwer mgt in bios but no luck. I know my system supports this 'automatic off' 'cause I dual boot into 95b and it works there.

Vas, do you dual boot into 9x or have you ever booted into another OS and tried it?

 

[jaywallen]

Mariner,

In Device Manager, is the Advanced Configuration and Power Interface (ACPI) PC shown as being installed under the Computer category, and is it shown to be functioning properly?

Regards,
Jim

 

[mariner]

Hey jaywallen, thx for dropping by Vas's thread.

No, ACPI doesn't show up, only MPS Multiprocessor PC. What about you Vas?

How do I get it to show up jaywallen?

I guess I need to boot into 95b on my other partition and see if shut-down still works there and then start comparing my settings.

 

[jaywallen]

Hi,

I don't think that the advanced power management functions are available for that Hardware Abstraction Layer. However, I'm not sure that this lack of support for power management features extends to automatic shutdown. Perhaps it varies according to the hardware upon which it's installed. I've seen lots of systems, like Dell OptiPlex and PowerEdge systems, that required the installation of a specialized utility for automating the shutdown in NT4 at any service pack level. Don't know whether that applies to W2K as well. That's not the way our W2K systems work here, but they are Compaqs and HPs so I still don't know whether the difference in behavior is due to hardware differences or OS differences. (The only systems I see around here that are set up for SMP are running server versions of W2K and NT4, and the configuration wouldn't allow for support of advanced power management functions like standby / hibernation. But they will shut down when told to do so by the OS.)

Bottom line is that I'm sure that your system has to be shown as ACPI in Device Manager to make the advanced power management functions available, and I suspect that this may have something to do with the lack of an automated shutdown capability on your system. I can only surmise based on pretty limited experience. I just started using Windows personally a year ago, and didn't &quot;graduate&quot; to NT4 and W2K until May of this year.

I'll follow this thread with interest.

Regards,
Jim

 

[mariner]

Thanks Jim. My setup supports hibernation but I can't seem to find 'standby' or get it started. If you have a link to any 'specialized utilities' I would be interested. Any luck yet Vas?

 

[randypj]

My assumption is that y'all have this happen every single time? If not, something similar has happened to me in W9x. But, it was not every time. I finally figured out that it only went bogus after I had disabled Norton Antivirus (which I do a lot), then re-enabled it sometime before I shut down. My solution has been....and this is really anal (yeah mariner, I do go the limit):

1. Re-enable Norton Antivirus
2. Open My Computer.
3. F5 to refresh.
4. Close My Computer.
5. F5 to refresh the desktop

Oh, another thing you might play with to see if a certain app or driver is causing it, would be to get something like EndItAll (don't know if it's available for 2K), and experiment with ending various combinations of open apps/drivers...or, just manually end them.

Yes, I do have a convoluted solution to almost everything, and I do use rubberbands as wire ties/cable holdbacks. When they start to smell, I replace 'em.
--Randy

 

[jaywallen]

mariner,

The &quot;specialized utilities&quot; I mentioned were provided by the OEM (Dell) for use with certain OptiPlex and PowerEdge systems. I suspect that motherboard makers would provide such utilities (at least on their Web sites) if their MBs required them. In case I wasn't clear about this, the utilities were solely for giving NT4 a &quot;Shutdown and Powerdown&quot; option in addition to the &quot;Shutdown&quot; option (which wouldn't actually power down the system) and the &quot;Shutdown and Restart&quot; option. Sorry I can't be more helpful on this.

I'm really surprised to hear that your setup supports hibernation but not standby. This is the W2K hibernation setting in Power Management you're talking about, right? On all systems I've seen with both hibernation and standby working in W2K, you set the BIOS to suspend-to-RAM (or whatever the BIOS calls it) so that you're not attempting to use the BIOS-supported hibernate. I don't know how well that would work in W2K. Windows then handles both standby and hibernate through ACPI. But that certainly doesn't sound like your system.

Very interesting.

Regards,
Jim

 

[mariner]

Hey rpj, climbed outta your parents basement to visit the world did ya? :Q

No, this doesn't happen everytime I use IE; what about you Vas? And, I haven't reinstalled NAV since installing 2k. EndItAll sounds like StartUp Cop which I used to use on NT. I do keep an eye on my Applications and Processes using Task Mgr., and I haven't seen anything that I can identify as 'rouge'. I have terminated as many as I can w/o hand-cuffing my system, to no avail. When I get home tonight I can post a brief portion of the 1.1MB error log that is generated, if that will help. And, yes, your solutions are as convoluted as your investment philosophy (but do they work as well?)

jaywallen,

Yes, I have a hibernation option I enabled and that shows up as a choice in the drop down menu when I shut down. I'm not on that machine right now but I think it shows up in the CP Power Mgt menus. I was surprised also about not being able to start the 'standby' mode. I found it in the help files; and those files described how to start it, but the needed options were not available to me - I can better describe it when I get home and refresh my memory as to the steps I took. I'll also check for the 'suspend to RAM' BIOS setting when I get home tonight; can't remember if it is there or not right now.

Have any of these ideas solved your problem Vas?

 

[mariner]

Oops, just posted another problem that belonged to another thread. That's what happens when you have too many problems

 

[jaywallen]

Oh, thank heavens, mariner! I was thinking that I had skipped the groove again!!!

 

[mariner]

LOL! You must be old enough to have LP's - skip a groove


However, since you saw the post ..... do you know the solution to the problem?


Looks like we lost Vas to the email Gods

 

[jaywallen]

I can remember when LPs were the latest technology! Before that time, records of that approximate size were heavy, brittle and ran at 78 rpm. Don't let that fool you, though. I'm told I don't look a day over 80!

I'll go looking for the other thread. Do you think the problems are related? From what I saw before you edited the message above, it didn't seem so.

CLUL8R

 

[mariner]

Hey I've got a 78! And 100+ LP's. I'm in the process of gathering together my wits (and storage space) to digitize my LP's and cassetts.

No, the problems aren't related; at least I don't think so. But since I haven't solved either one .....

It's here null

 

[jaywallen]

Hi,

I found it, and posted a response on the thread. (Probably won't be any more useful than my responses on this thread!)

 

[jdparsons]

This is a repost from another thread ... but its short: You might try searching the registry for &quot;PowerdownAfterShutdown&quot; and changing its value from '0' to '1'. It seems like that worked for me once on my BH6 motherboard

 

[randypj]

MOD--My Mom says make mariner play nice. My Mom said if he doesn't have something nice to say about someone, his tongue should be cut out...um...it was somin' like that.

OK, 400+ pristine LP's. And, mariner, I actually saw a lotta those groups in concert....not just on VH-1. OK, how many open reel (outboard dolbyized of course) and 8-track tapes you guys got? And, I'm told I don't act a day over 6.



<< That's what happens when you have too many problems >>

--mariner.

Yeah, that's what the cops told me when I reported you for stalking me.
--Randy

 

[jaywallen]

jdparsons,

Is that registry setting supposed to be used on non-ACPI-compliant MBs? Just curious. It's always had a value of &quot;0&quot; on all of the systems I've used. Since all of them shut down properly, I suppose that means that using a value of &quot;1&quot; isn't necessary for at least some kinds of systems. Thanks for any info you can provide.

Regards,
Jim

 

[mariner]

Hey jdparsons, good suggestion Found and changed it in the registry but still no luck It just hangs there telling me I can power down now. What OS were you running on the BH6?

Anybody ever find Vas?

 

[jdparsons]

Jaywallen: I don't know for sure; the registry key is &quot;just there&quot; -- I've found no documentation from Microsoft on it. On my KT7 system, the key is set to 0 and it shuts down correctly. On the BH6 system, I had to set it to 1 before the system would powerdown -- I'm guessing the BH6 is not ACPI-compliant.

BTW when I ticked the box to enable APM, the BH6 computer blue-screened on shutdown...so I un-ticked that!

Mariner: Back when I was running W98, the BH6 had no problems with shutdown. When I reinstalled with W2K back &quot;early-mid-year&quot;, it would do exactly what yours does. Somewhere (probably in a blind search through the registry) I found that key, set it and all was fine again under W2K. Sorry it didn't work for you. (What is your system information?)

 

[Vas_Deferens]

sorry i didn't follow up sooner, I droped of the earth temporarily. Yes, checking the APM box worked, thanks Divide.