Of course, you forget, New Vegas is much less linear than Fallout 3. You could literally go to New Vegas in the first hour of the game, even though you're only "supposed" to get there mid-late game. You just had to be good at sneaking past deathclaws. Also there are 10x as many side quests than Fallout 3. NV had actual rewards in terms of quests than Fo3, which had very very few.
Fallout 3, good luck with that, that doesn't really exist. Much more linear because you HAVE to go through the damn metro tunnels to get to many places.
Of course, you forget, New Vegas is much less linear than Fallout 3. You could literally go to New Vegas in the first hour of the game, even though you're only "supposed" to get there mid-late game. You just had to be good at sneaking past deathclaws. Also there are 10x as many side quests than Fallout 3. NV had actual rewards in terms of quests than Fo3, which had very very few.
Fallout 3, good luck with that, that doesn't really exist. Much more linear because you HAVE to go through the damn metro tunnels to get to many places.
Because going through the same looking metro over and over is a great setting.
Also the story was so damn full of plotholes, that is was ridiculous.
I also notice you didn't touch on the massive dump that FO3 was combat/gameplay wise.
Jesus dude, can someone have an opinion on it that differs from yours?
I liked the sense of exploration in FO3 more so than NV. The "feel" of the wasteland was better to me. NV was a bit of a mixed bag. Plenty right about it but some stuff that was just a bit off. NV did have aspects to it's gameplay 3 didn't have but it also came out afterwards too so that's to be expected. I wouldn't call it a "better" game because of it though.
I play FO3 standalone in Win864 and have had no issues whatsoever with it aside from the usual Bethesda bugs. One cool thing is playing on the PC this time and being able to toggle no clip and god mode on to go places I wasn't able to on the 360 version (especially the highly radioactive area out west that would kill you in seconds. That I couldn't "discover" that location due to this bugs me to this day).
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I didnt have any problems on Win 7 64, but I applied a bunch of patches and mods. And I launch via FOSE.
The script extender all by itself doenst make the game any more or less stable. Its all the weird mods that it requires.
The mods that fix holes in the game dont make it any more stable, they just patch broken quests and such.
I think I installed a mod that included a massive patch. However, I would need to look at my notes to know what I actually installed.
I am currently playing fallout 3 on Win7 64 bit with about 20 hours in and no crashes. The only thing I did before starting is to modify the ini file to only use 2 cores - do this if you have a quad core processor.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1328904
After my first character, I made it a point to go straight to Rivet City, with no leveling up. it usually only took 2 or 3 tries.Actually, in the first hour of Fallout 3 you could beeline to the garage, the Docs vault, use the shortcut to finish the happy little town simulation, and be working your way with dad back to Rivet City.
In theory you could avoid ALL combat, and there certainly werent any deathclaws along the way anyhow.
Not to mention shit like DT being removed, SPECIAL stats not affecting your conversational choices, traits being removed, perks at every level, generally easy difficulty even on hardest, massive reduction of damage in VATS for some godforsaken reason,
I am currently playing fallout 3 on Win7 64 bit with about 20 hours in and no crashes. The only thing I did before starting is to modify the ini file to only use 2 cores - do this if you have a quad core processor.
http://forums.steampowered.com/forums/showthread.php?t=1328904
I'm still confused on what you're trying to prove. FO3, TO ME, was a better overall experience. You can quote random posts on the game all you want, and I never said NV isn't a good game, but I just enjoyed FO3 more. My contention is just every post I've seen is some crusade against the game when it doesn't fucking matter. You enjoyed NV more, I enjoyed FO3 more, what's so hard about leaving it at that?
LMAO, thanks!
Not to mention shit like DT being removed, SPECIAL stats not affecting your conversational choices, traits being removed, perks at every level, generally easy difficulty even on hardest, massive reduction of damage in VATS for some godforsaken reason,
LMAO, thanks!
I really had no problem with the plot in Fallout 3 in spite of the above. I liked that in Fallout 3, the BoS were actually good guys. In Fallout New Vegas, every faction was a collection of dicks. Well, except for the Legion which was straight-up evil, not to mention extremely silly.
Liberty Prime was quite possibly the greatest character in video game history.
Reminds me of Hi Fidelity:
BARRY
What's wrong with the Righteous Brothers?
DICK
Nothing. I just prefer the other one.
BARRY
Bullshit.
ROB
How can it be bullshit to state a preference?
Admittedly Liberty Prime was cool, but in the assault on the purifier Liberty Prime made me pretty much redundant.Liberty Prime was quite possibly the greatest character in video game history.
Admittedly Liberty Prime was cool, but in the assault on the purifier Liberty Prime made me pretty much redundant.
You probably could, but why would you?Most of the game was like that. You could run straight from vault 101 to your dads vault (no combat), get him out of the virtual town without combat, zip straight to rivet city, clear out the memorial (minimal combat with help), go through the GECK vault (possible to avoid all combat and/or get help from the toughest companion), run through the Enclave base with no combat until the end when the robots do everything for you.
Head back to the paladin stronghold possibly avoiding all combat, use Liberty Prime to do all the work for you on the way back to the memorial. Minimal combat with lots of help inside the memorial.
Its possible to kill maybe a dozen people or less in your quest.
New Vegas aint like that. Even with help you'll have to do an awful lot of work yourself.