Window 2003 - not a Gaming OS? - NO ATI Driver - No 3D?

[Peter007]

I just install the Window 2003 WebServer Edition to try it out.

The "Dxdiag.exe" DirextX Analyzer reveal that there was no Direct3D, so I proceed to find an ATI Radeon Driver.

Only to have ATI stating that "Windwo 2003" is a Business OS only, and no driver will be provided by ATI.

I try installing the WindowXP driver, but the Window2003 refuse to take it

Any solution?

 

[xcript]

Control Panel -> Display -> Settings -> Advanced -> Troubleshooting -> Hardware Acceleration

Set the slider here to full to enable DirectX.

And as far as I recall quite a few folks over at Rage3D managed to install the ATI drivers without any problems.

 

[calfpheen]

im running win2k3 server right now as a regular os.. well i was, but i just formatted to winxp. worked perfectly fine for me, performed pretty good too. i have a nvidia card though.

 

[IsOs]

Even if you manage to install the 3D driver, you still can't expect the games the run correctly. Windows 2003 Server is not made for games.

As far as I know, Windows XP Home Edition is the OS choice for new games.

 

[Peter007]

Still, I wish Microsoft give user a choice:

So far, installing the Window2003 is even faster than WinXP.

The Footprint of W2003 Web Edition was only around 850mb, quick small compare to WinXP.

I find the Response time to be quicker than any OS I've used so far.

Has anyone got it to TAKE the WinXP Driver on Radeon?

 

[xcript]

Yes, people have.

Hope linking to other forums isn't a no-no:

http://rage3d.com/board/showthread.php?threadid=33689347

 

[MrChad]

Originally posted by: Peter007
Still, I wish Microsoft give user a choice:

So far, installing the Window2003 is even faster than WinXP.

The Footprint of W2003 Web Edition was only around 850mb, quick small compare to WinXP.

I find the Response time to be quicker than any OS I've used so far.

Has anyone got it to TAKE the WinXP Driver on Radeon?

You can get Windows 2003 to work as a "gaming OS," but you will have to fiddle with it quite a bit. W2K3 is designed to be a server OS, and as such quite a bit of desktop OS "fluff" (DirectX, web browsing, etc.) is disabled by default. In the end, the code base for 2K3 is essentially the same as XP, and you will see little benefit of running 2K3 as a desktop OS over a tweaked and streamlined XP. Not to mention the cost difference; XP runs $100-200, versus a few thousand for a copy of 2K3.

Search for this topic on the forums here, it's been mentioned many, many times over the past couple of months.

 

[Codewiz]

I saw a group of people released a utility that would automatically configure Win2003 as a workstation OS so that games will run better.

 

[bsobel]

Any solution?

No, your violating your license "Windows Server 2003, Web Edition, can be used solely to deploy Web pages, Web sites, Web applications, and Web services. Customers can use Windows Server 2003, Web Edition, to install the following: Web server software; for example, IIS. Web availability management software; for example, Microsoft Application Center."

The OS isn't licensed for use with other apps (such as 3d games)

Bill

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: bsobel

Any solution?

No, your violating your license "Windows Server 2003, Web Edition, can be used solely to deploy Web pages, Web sites, Web applications, and Web services. Customers can use Windows Server 2003, Web Edition, to install the following: Web server software; for example, IIS. Web availability management software; for example, Microsoft Application Center."

The OS isn't licensed for use with other apps (such as 3d games)

Bill

You really think he paid $1k for a gaming OS anyway? 99% of Server 2k3 posts here can be summarized as "I pirated Windows Server 2003 and want to be l33t by playing games on a server OS. How do I be l33t like that?" Cost.

 

[bsobel]

You really think he paid $1k for a gaming OS anyway? 99% of Server 2k3 posts here can be summarized as "I pirated Windows Server 2003 and want to be l33t by playing games on a server OS. How do I be l33t like that?" Cost.

No, I don't, but when it becomes obvious the threads finally get locked
Bill

 

[spyordie007]

while I do agree that the only reason people have to play games on Windows 2003 Server is so that they can say that they did a number of them probably got the OS as a trial version or as part of their school licensing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than just assuming that they pirated it.

In either case they should be playing their games on Windows XP and not a Server OS.

-Spy

 

[bsobel]

Originally posted by: spyordie007
while I do agree that the only reason people have to play games on Windows 2003 Server is so that they can say that they did a number of them probably got the OS as a trial version or as part of their school licensing. I'm giving them the benefit of the doubt rather than just assuming that they pirated it. In either case they should be playing their games on Windows XP and not a Server OS. -Spy

Now I certainly could be wrong on this one, but it was my understanding that their isn't a trial or school version of the web server edition....

Bill

 

[spyordie007]

I mean in general, as far as I'm aware there is not a trial of the web edition either...

 

[rbV5]

Now I certainly could be wrong on this one, but it was my understanding that their isn't a trial or school version of the web server edition

Maybe not, but I got my 2003 web server edition media with my action pack upgrade mailing yesterday, so subscription members should be getting or have gotten theirs.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: rbV5

Now I certainly could be wrong on this one, but it was my understanding that their isn't a trial or school version of the web server edition

Maybe not, but I got my 2003 web server edition media with my action pack upgrade mailing yesterday, so subscription members should be getting or have gotten theirs.

subscription members play games on their server releases? heh. Too bad subscriptions are so extremely expensive

 

[juancferrer]

Originally posted by: CTho9305

Originally posted by: rbV5

Now I certainly could be wrong on this one, but it was my understanding that their isn't a trial or school version of the web server edition

Maybe not, but I got my 2003 web server edition media with my action pack upgrade mailing yesterday, so subscription members should be getting or have gotten theirs.

subscription members play games on their server releases? heh. Too bad subscriptions are so extremely expensive

Action pack subscriptions are only $299

 

[EeyoreX]

Frankly, I see the answer to the thread in the title.

Window 2003 - not a Gaming OS?

Windows 2003 is not a gaming OS, no matter how you slice it. Want a workaround? It's called Windows XP.

\Dan

 

[Peter007]

So the lack of Direct 3D is on purpose?

Guys not every Direct 3D is for gaming, I have quite a bit of WimAmp 3D ScreenSaver using the Direct3D.
OpenGL seem to have fallen out of favor.

I suppose I can't run the 3D Studio Max's Direct3D Acceleration either

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: Peter007
So the lack of Direct 3D is on purpose?

Guys not every Direct 3D is for gaming, I have quite a bit of WimAmp 3D ScreenSaver using the Direct3D.
OpenGL seem to have fallen out of favor.

I suppose I can't run the 3D Studio Max's Direct3D Acceleration either

Yea, cause you know, everyone runs winamp and fancy screensavers on their servers. "Real" server admins love it when their servers have more stuff that can break even though they don't want to use it.

 

[SpeedFreak03]

Window 2003 - not a Gaming OS?

No Sh*t!!!!! When i saw this topic i knew it was going to be just what CTho said. You have wayyyy to much time on your hands lol.

 

[CTho9305]

Originally posted by: juancferrer

Action pack subscriptions are only $299

$299/year for:

Windows® XP Professional with Service Pack 1; Small Business Server 2000 with Service Pack 1; SQL ServerTM 2000 Developer Edition; Exchange 2000 Enterprise Server; Mobile Information Server 2002; Office XP Professional with Service Pack 1; Internet Security and Acceleration (ISA) Server; SharePointTM Portal Server 2001; Publisher 2002; MapPoint® 2002; Windows 2000 Advanced Server with Service Pack 3; Outlook® 2002; SQL Server 2000 Service Pack 2; Exchange 2000 Server Service Pack 3; Visio® 2002 Professional Service Release 1; FrontPage® 2002; ISA Server Service Pack 1; SharePoint Portal Server 2001 Service Pack 2; Project 2002 Professional; Windows Server 2003 Enterprise Edition

And they let you use it to run corporate intranets too... that's one of their more lenient "non-production" licenses. Cool