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Maximilian

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I think its great. So many MS haters out there, it'll be to win 8 what win 7 was to Vista. Sometimes it takes a hard fall to make u realize what uve done wrong & come back with fire in ur belly....so i expect them to get everything right this time. To be honest, no matter what they did it would've been hard to replace win7, it was a great OS that nobody felt the need to upgrade from.

Yeah but when every 2nd step is a hard fall.... :|
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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I already have an OS that acts like Windows 7. It is called windows 7.
This post was created using Windows 7.


I have something better in many ways then Windows 7 it's called Linux,this was posted from a superior OS called Linux :awe: .


The ONLY thing that keeps me on Windows is PC gaming.
 

Anubis

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Aug 31, 2001
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I think its great. So many MS haters out there, it'll be to win 8 what win 7 was to Vista. Sometimes it takes a hard fall to make u realize what uve done wrong & come back with fire in ur belly....so i expect them to get everything right this time. To be honest, no matter what they did it would've been hard to replace win7, it was a great OS that nobody felt the need to upgrade from.

For me, win 8.1 with Start button (from Stardock, only $5) is a more efficient OS & i felt it was worth it (only 8.1, stayed away from 8). But thats me. $120 for software i use every second my system is on isn't much money. Heck i paid $100 for BF4 & BF4 Premium!

there really was nothing wrong with Vista
 

Dahak

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Mar 2, 2000
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there really was nothing wrong with Vista

No there was, I have even used it.

Yes once SP2 and it even got better with SP1 but the first 6months was a horror show.
Bad drivers, install on low system requirements it was not good. Win 7 was better on that hardware than Vista was.

I am ok with the way 10 is going, it will tailor itself to what device you have, for example the desktop, it will boot directly to it, have start menu.
for a touch tablet, you will have only the touch metro interface as you should.
ects
 

Anubis

No Lifer
Aug 31, 2001
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the driver and system requirement issues were not the fault of the OS, OEMs knew about the driver changed nearly a year before it came out and didn't fix their stuff (not MS Fault)

system requirements clearly stated yet people still installed it on things they should not have (not MS fault)

I used it from day one, had 1 printer driver that didn't like it so I got a new printer. never a single issue

anyway back on topic, what ive seen of 10 so far looks promising
 

sweenish

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May 21, 2013
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Are you assuming they went from one brand new, expensive printer to another?

Perhaps it had been time for an upgrade, and the borked driver was the final straw?

Vista as an OS was fine. It was necessary to get OEMs to stop being lazy about the ancient hardware and inflated prices of computers at the time. It was also necessary for laptops. XP was not very laptop friendly. It was necessary from a security standpoint.

Vista was interesting as MS kind of had to be the bad guy so that the industry didn't kill itself. Once OEMs got on board, 7 was ready.

I had sound issues with Vista, I lost my surround sound (always kept stereo) because NO ONE updated their drivers properly, forever. However, unlike all the idiots, I put the blame where it belonged. The sound card OEM.

Better than when I tried Linux at the time and my hardware simply never worked. The solution was to replace the entire audio engine. Needless to say, I broke that install real good. That kind of freedom is refreshing, but more often entirely frustrating when all you want is for sound to come out of the speakers.

Linux today is miles better than it was when Vista launched. I can see it as a viable alternative, especially with the indie gaming surge and Steam support. But the hate here, without actually having used the product, is absurd. Let's attempt to act like grown-ups?
 
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Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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No there was, I have even used it.

Yes once SP2 and it even got better with SP1 but the first 6months was a horror show.
Bad drivers, install on low system requirements it was not good. Win 7 was better on that hardware than Vista was.

I am ok with the way 10 is going, it will tailor itself to what device you have, for example the desktop, it will boot directly to it, have start menu.
for a touch tablet, you will have only the touch metro interface as you should.
ects

Posted from a different forum by me,

The old Vista argument which I'm an expert on since I purchased it from day one on release,main issues were lazy companies taking ages to release drivers for Vista,the hardware company in question is responsible for drivers not Microsoft and that goes for any OS.

Also OEM companies shipping their PCs etc below Vista's minimum recommended specs did not help,FUD created etc and there was a lot of that.

I used Vista for good two years including beta games testing for PC game companies,I had no major issues.
I was lucky I had drivers for Vista on day one mainly due to companies of my hardware getting drivers out fast unlike other companies I could mention.

UAC nagging a lot users moaned about with Vista which was toned down on Win7,infact only two things stick out for me on Win7 ie less UAC nagging and some speed increase in the OS,but then we also had faster newer hardware as well.
Win7 had the luxury of two years further refinement over Vista and also had Vista drivers as backup unlike Vista which had no backup on drivers being a new redesigned OS,remember Win7 is based on Vista so that says a lot.

Win7 in many way is Vista SP3 IMHO and I used Win7 from day one until Win8 was released.
You can obviously argue any OS is not at its peak on release but then that goes for XP,Vista,Win7,Win8,Win10 etc so nothing new there,service packs ,updates are there for a reason on every OS.
 

C1

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Feb 21, 2008
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This is true.

Win7 in many way is Vista SP3 IMHO

but huh?

OEM companies shipping their PCs etc below Vista's minimum recommended specs

I was in Vegas when the computer stores had big signs up stating that at 12 noon come Wednesday all machines shall sport VISTA. Sure enough, all floor machines were pulled (yes, disappeared) and reappeared that fatal Wednesday noon sporting VISTA.

So did the OEMs come to VISTA or was it really the other way, and whose idea was that really?
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Maybe this Windows 10 preview won't BSOD on me, like my current Win8 64-bit upgraded to Win8.1 64-bit. (Lenovo i3 w/7790 1GB card).
 

nemesismk2

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Sep 29, 2001
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i wasn't going to get windows 8, windows 9 amd i am not going to get windows 10 too. will stick with windows 7 and windows xp for quite a bit longer. actually i just bought a new copy of windows xp for a spare drive i own. retired my ubuntu computers as well because it was hardly used.
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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i wasn't going to get windows 8, windows 9 amd i am not going to get windows 10 too. will stick with windows 7 and windows xp for quite a bit longer. actually i just bought a new copy of windows xp for a spare drive i own. retired my ubuntu computers as well because it was hardly used.


I never go back to XP or Win7,I'll retire Win8.1 once 10 arrives and do same for Win10 with Win11.

As to Linux I would use full time if it was not for PC gaming that I need Windows for.
 

VirtualLarry

No Lifer
Aug 25, 2001
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Anyone concerned about loss of privacy, the video stated that when you search from the Start menu, it searches the web too. Which means, your search provider (MS Bing?) gets your filenames too. Not too happy about that.
 

Ketchup

Elite Member
Sep 1, 2002
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Anyone concerned about loss of privacy, the video stated that when you search from the Start menu, it searches the web too. Which means, your search provider (MS Bing?) gets your filenames too. Not too happy about that.

Surely this will be controllable. Similar to being able to create a User Account in 8 without needing a Microsoft Account.
 

Chiefcrowe

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Sep 15, 2008
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I am going to do that this morning. Does anyone know if Win 10 Enterprise preview will install ok on VMWare Player?
 

Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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I am going to do that this morning. Does anyone know if Win 10 Enterprise preview will install ok on VMWare Player?
No idea to be honest.
My download speed has dropped,think a lot of users are downloading at same time ,5.26pm here in UK.
 
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Chiefcrowe

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Sep 15, 2008
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It was a bit slow getting through the login process and the form but it started to work after a while. The download was very fast, we have a great connection here. I will try to install it on VMWare player soon and report back!
 
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Mem

Lifer
Apr 23, 2000
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It was a bit slow getting through the login process and the form but it started to work after a while. The download was very fast, we have a great connection here. I will try to install it on VMWare player soon and report back!


My download speed is from 5 hours to 41 mins,all over the place,on 10MB connection here.


Now it's downloading at full speed.
 

Dremon

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Sep 10, 2007
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I've just downloaded it (1-2 MB/s on average) but first try to install it in Virtualbox 4.2 gives BSOD:
Your PC needs to restart. Please hold down the power button. Error code.....

I'm upgrading VBox to 4.3.16 and will try again

Edit: VBox upgrade didn't change it but increasing video mem to 64MB solved the issue. However it says now that "This PC/Device needs to be repaired"

Edit2: Enabling PAE in VM options removed the message above, but the first BSOD is there again... oh, joy!

Edit3: Enabling I/O APIC in the options solved the issue. Installation continues...
 
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Eric1987

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Mar 22, 2012
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Such an amazing OS! Massive improvements! I love it! Live tiles on the start button is great!!!
 

hoorah

Senior member
Dec 8, 2005
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Anyone concerned about loss of privacy, the video stated that when you search from the Start menu, it searches the web too. Which means, your search provider (MS Bing?) gets your filenames too. Not too happy about that.

Not a fan either but I suspect this will be able to be disabled. Preferably by someone with more free time than I have and also by someone willing to document the procedure for me....
 
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