Windows 10 that's EXACTLY like Windows 7

[[DHT]Osiris]

That's my whole point. I'm looking for a forum with developers and coders to give me factual reasons why it isn't possible.

Here's another point why I believe it may be possible. Throughout Microsoft's history of making operating systems, they've chosen to retain nearly all of the previous operating system's applications and files associated. I read an article where an ex-employee of Microsoft came out to say that Windows 8.1 and 10 are basically re-hashed versions of Windows 7. Apparently, they have kept most of the code and have only introduced new "Apps" in order to make the operating system look new.

The evidence of this is in the "Settings App". When you click on a link to change something like advanced network options, it links you to the exact same window that you would see in 7. If this "Settings App" was completely new, they wouldn't feel the need to link back to legacy dialog windows to change options.

That's the exact reasoning why I believe my idea isn't impossible. I'm very confident there are remnants of Windows 7 dialog and control windows. It only makes sense considering Microsoft's past.

Here's a better way of looking at it:
Starting around Win7/2008R2 era, Hicrosoft very heavily pushed all features within the OS to be editable via Powershell. Basically Powershell became the actual shell for the OS. Control panel (as well as all the little doodads within it) was one of a couple front-ends for that. In Win10, a new front-end was developed called Settings. It's got more/different hooks into the powershell subsystem than control panel has, and CP is still there for backwards compatibility/ease of getting to some of the 'older' stuff (like network properties).

If you want, you can just do everything through powershell, or use one of MS's (now two) front-ends for it.

It's much more complicated than that, but that might help explain things better.

 

[ElFenix]

the people who write programs to change the UI haven't figured out how to make settings look like control panel, and they've now had years to try (windows 8 also had settings), so i don't know that it is possible.


still strange that we're years later and there's still a bifurcated settings and control panel.

 

[[DHT]Osiris]

the people who write programs to change the UI haven't figured out how to make settings look like control panel, and they've now had years to try (windows 8 also had settings), so i don't know that it is possible.


still strange that we're years later and there's still a bifurcated settings and control panel.

It'll remain that way, I have no doubt. Windows keeps so much cruft in the OS, for better or worse.

Win10 still has a setting for WINS, still supports NTLMv1, still has ancient, dark corners of the registry.

They probably still ship drivers for some token ring ISA cards.

 

[BonzaiDuck]

I think what I had done before installing Classic Shell was to find some obtuse link to "Control Panel" and make it a chiclet in the Win 10 default start menu. I think I'd added some four items to make them available that way.

I'm just going to start another thread -- the reason I just logged on. You can guess: Windows and word beginning with "U."

 

[mpelley92]

Here's a better way of looking at it:
Starting around Win7/2008R2 era, Hicrosoft very heavily pushed all features within the OS to be editable via Powershell. Basically Powershell became the actual shell for the OS. Control panel (as well as all the little doodads within it) was one of a couple front-ends for that. In Win10, a new front-end was developed called Settings. It's got more/different hooks into the powershell subsystem than control panel has, and CP is still there for backwards compatibility/ease of getting to some of the 'older' stuff (like network properties).

If you want, you can just do everything through powershell, or use one of MS's (now two) front-ends for it.

It's much more complicated than that, but that might help explain things better.

Thank you Osiris for this answer. It is exactly what I needed to hear. Now I know why it's so difficult. It now makes sense. Looks like it's time to learn and master Powershell!

 

[Puffnstuff]

I too refused to upgrade from W7 Ult to 8.1 until I discovered classic shell and then I couldn't get there fast enough. When 10 became available I moved there quickly as well and I'll never go back to the older OS's. CS gives me the latitude to use the 10 regular menu or W7 at will which is great. MS should give users this option from the beginning instead of forcing us to use 3rd party menu systems.

 

[Azuma Hazuki]

Microsoft does not give a damn about consumers. There's no money to be had from us aside from ad revenue and they're getting more and more aggressive and arrogant about that too. It's gotten to the point I've been giving a lot of customers Win7 in a VM in Linux, and finding that they actually like Linux (KDE Plasma with a rather Windows-like theme set) enough to use it for most things-that-aren't-office.

 

[escrow4]

Windows 10 still has old rubbish because of backwards compatibility. For what that gives you I'd say its a worthwhile tradeoff. There is no other OS currently available that is as flexible with both new stuff and old rubbish as an all rounder.

 

[RLGL]

Personally I wish MS would start fresh. Limit hardware and software backward compatibility to three years .

 

[Ketchup]

Personally I wish MS would start fresh. Limit hardware and software backward compatibility to three years .

LOL.

 

[bruceb]

Well most of the rest of us, don't want that. I have some nice old programs, that can do what I need them to do. No need to pay for the "latest and usually worst improved" version of something. Like when MS Office went to the Ribbon and decided to use a new and improved crappy color palette. The original colors in up to Office 2003 were perfect. They had to change it and make it worse.

 

[mxnerd]

Personally I wish MS would start fresh. Limit hardware and software backward compatibility to three years .

That's why IBM OS/2 lose to Microsoft Windows - no compatibility.

 

[WhoBeDaPlaya]

Personally I wish MS would start fresh. Limit hardware and software backward compatibility to three years .

Give up the ONE major advantage / leverage they have over every other OS out there?
If they do that, it really will be the Year of the Linux Desktop

 

[Sheep221]

Well most of the rest of us, don't want that. I have some nice old programs, that can do what I need them to do. No need to pay for the "latest and usually worst improved" version of something. Like when MS Office went to the Ribbon and decided to use a new and improved crappy color palette. The original colors in up to Office 2003 were perfect. They had to change it and make it worse.

Absolutely agree! I still use some pretty old versions of some programs too.

Btw, Ribbon was added in office 2007 which is pretty old too, but they did stick with it till today.

 

[sm625]

Almost everything from windows 7 exists in windows 10. You can even do the ancient "control userpasswords2" from the run command.

 

[corkyg]

Almost everything, but user sound options are very limited.

 

[jkauff]

Almost everything, but user sound options are very limited.

Haven't they always been limited? Realtek, whose audio chipsets are used on almost all PCs these days, shouldn't have to provide their own control software, but they still do.

 

[corkyg]

Haven't they always been limited? Realtek, whose audio chipsets are used on almost all PCs these days, shouldn't have to provide their own control software, but they still do.

I'm not referring to that - I am referring to Windows Sounds. Win 10 has no Exit sound at all. To change Start sound, a 3rd party hack must be used. This was done by M$ to provide the illusion of faster load time, etc. Over the years, I have really come to love "Elvis has left the building.wav"