It looks like Windows 11 is hobbling Ryzen 7000 gaming performance currently....
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Hobbled Ryzen 7000
for more details, read more at PcGamer:
Hobbled Ryzen 7000
It's a free upgrade, and I can't tell the difference from 10, other than a moderately worse UI. I don't see any point with my usage for staying on 10. Though I am hoping 11 will be my last windows version. I was on Amiga until I stopped being able to buy the games I wanted. Now, every time I fire up SteamOS and play games, I feel like maybe I don't need to go back to my windows install. Teh day approaches...The only pro I can think of for running Windows 11 at the moment is better Alder Lake / Raptor Lake task scheduling when compared to Windows 10. I doubt AM5 CPUs would have trouble with Windows 10, but even if they do, I doubt it is worse than on Windows 11, so it would still be pointless to use 11.
Unless someone can think of some big reason to use 11 right now that I don't know of. But I doubt it.
So is it better to run Am5 on Windows 10?
So in general except for some games Windows 10 doesn't use the cores of Am5 better than Windows 11? (With Windows 11 and its thread director)
To much information overload for me lol I misunderstood something I read. Someone was going with a 7950 with Windows 10 because they had older games and wanted to stick with W10 in general. I misunderstood it and thats why I asked.There hasn't been any indicator of that being true. AM5 CPUs don't have a different core layout than AM4 (5950x vs 7950X), so why would anything be different?
Also just want to say thanks to you and Markfw. Over the years you all have helped me a good amount with any questions I had.
What bickering?Np, I get help here pretty often as well. Despite all the (occasional) bickering that's what it's all about in the end, isn't it?
Nothingburger?If it turned out that a certain processor company was PAYING someone at Microsoft to PURPOSEFULLY hobble a certain other competing company's performance under Windows 11... and someone actually came across the paper trail for this, what do you think they would call the resulting scandal?
So is it better to run Am5 on Windows 10? What are the pros and cons of Am5 Windows 10 vs Windows 11?
They seem to be adding new features faster than they can fix the bugs introduced by the previous new features differentiating Win11 from Win10What, 12 and a half months wasn't long enough to make it stable???
What, 12 and a half months wasn't long enough to make it stable???
Its understandable that Intel enterprise servers practically owned the market before Ryzen but would it kill Microsoft to at least run Windows on AMD pc's and to check for obvious problems? Thats the part which I don't get.becuase window developers write the code on intel based enterprise machines.
It may change with EYPC taking up marketing percentage.
But until then, chances are the game you will play was written on an Intel based machine running either a AMD or Nvidia video card.
AMD if its a console port, and Nvidia if its a PC only or PC Primary Title.
but would it kill Microsoft to at least run Windows on AMD pc's and to check for obvious problems?
The answer is always yes.but would it kill Microsoft to
Messing with stuff that already works fine and making it "better" takes up all their time.The answer is always yes.
Windows itself simply is no longer a primary business focus for Microsoft. Microsoft tries to use the reach Windows still has to get everybody to join their cloud ecosystem and push their tech of the day. But Windows has been a mess for quite some time, and the only serious effort is about adding even more (often unwanted) capability on top, because flexibility.Messing with stuff that already works fine and making it "better" takes up all their time.
no because if games can run on a xbox, it can typically run on like 90% of gaming PC's.
How many people are actually on 5th gen Ryzen 7000 series?
Infact how many are even on 4th gen Ryzen 5000 series, compared to 3rd gen Ryzen 3000?
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So if as long as it runs fine on Zen 2, they really have no need to go beyond that, as the biggest market share of the users will be on CPU's simular to Zen 2.
Which is why u will get late updates, and they will just leave it to the board and cpu manufactures to update the AEGIS and Microcode with bios updates so it works instead of windows fixing it themselves.
I don't think games development is being majorly done on server or workstations, Epyc or otherwise (so I'm disagreeing with aigomorla on that point). Imo the situation may reverse whenever/if AMD systems become the default minimum and recommended spec for games, though as aigomorla rightly noted on PC the hurdle is pretty much basic compatibility (that it runs at all) not optimization (that it is made to run very well on a specific system). The latter should happen more on consoles, but there the market dominating PS5 (and unlike Xbox Series) considerably deviates in its implementation of Zen 2, so that's the lowest common denominator (we'll have to see, but the budget chip Mendocino may be the first consumer Zen 2 chip with a limited FPU setup similar to PS5).Do you think the situation will be reversed when AMD dominates the server market and development will be done on EPYC systems?
Doesn't the rendering part require professional graphics cards etc.? I would think that at least at the AAA studios, they would want their developers working with ECC RAM to prevent bit errors from ruining something they spent a lot of time working on.I don't think games development is being majorly done on server or workstations, Epyc or otherwise (so I'm disagreeing with aigomorla on that point).