Windows 7 PC users refusing to move to Windows 10

Executioner

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In November, 56.1% of PCs on the Internet were running Windows 7, Net Applications reported Tuesday. The figure has remained stubbornly high since the Windows 10 launch. It was 57.7% in August, 56.5% in September and 55.7% in October.

Meanwhile, the percentage of Windows 8 PCs in use rose last month. Windows 8 accounted for 14% of PCs on the Internet in November, compared with 13.2% in October. In June, before the release of Windows 10, Windows 8 had 16% market share, Net Applications said.

In the four months since its release, Windows 10 has grown to 9% market share as of November. In October, it had 7.9% share, Net Applications said.
http://news.investors.com/120115-783137-windows-10-migration-stalls-amid-slow-pc-sales-upgrades.htm

Pie chart here: https://www.netmarketshare.com/operating-system-market-share.aspx?qprid=10&qpcustomd=0

Even XP is higher than 10 LOL, and 8 has increased also.
 

bbhaag

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Not surprising really. After all people are creatures of habit and Win7 is a great OS. I don't see this as a refusal to move to Win10 but more of a comfort thing.
 

postmortemIA

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People not liking to experiment with the new software hate the changes. Maybe if Microsoft would learn from Apple how to make the upgrade process seamless and with only small number of changes between versions... it would work better.
 

bbhaag

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That's a pretty good point. They do seem to be flip floppy on the direction of their OS's as of late. Since Win95 it has been Start, Start, Start, then Win8 came and put that on its head.
Now Win10 has a Start again but not the same. They seem to be all over the map with no clear direction.
 

corkyg

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I have both on separate drives -easily selectable. I run 10 once a week to keep it up to date. I run 7 daily, and do all my work and browsing on it. By using Start10, both look, feel, and work the same way except that 10 is not as user customizable in fonts or windows sounds. Yeah, it has a lot to do with comfort too.
 

PliotronX

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People not liking to experiment with the new software hate the changes. Maybe if Microsoft would learn from Apple how to make the upgrade process seamless and with only small number of changes between versions... it would work better.
It's not so much resistance to change as it is that Windows 10 does not offer anything groundbreaking for PCs and the upgrade has broken a few perfectly fine installations with the upgrade process as it really needs a clean installation. The soured upgrades are not leaving good impressions of 10; the reversion process resulted in one laptop becoming more sluggish than before the 10 upgrade so it had to be reformatted. Along with tales of telemetry grabbing data or eating resources, it takes the very blind fans of flat looking operating systems to embrace it.
 

Ketchup

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I am pretty close to the stats then.

One Win 7 laptop upgraded to 10, the Win 7 desktop is not. Honestly, after playing with 10 for a while, and getting comfortable with configuring/disabling/enabling apps, I am probably not too far from getting the desktop to 10 though.

But I do find it interesting that with all the updates that will lead to the 10 updating, without telling you that they are doing so, that the percentages are still so low.
 

Greenman

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I'm running win 7. There is no compelling reason to upgrade. My computer works just fine right now, and with the upgrade will come issues and headaches. There is no up side, even free, it isn't worth the trouble, and we all know that it isn't free. Somewhere along the way, everyone who got the free upgrade will be writing M$ a check.
 

Dahak

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People not liking to experiment with the new software hate the changes. Maybe if Microsoft would learn from Apple how to make the upgrade process seamless and with only small number of changes between versions... it would work better.

Thats the plan going forward, but to get there you have to sorta start from the beginning again and its easier to do with a new release vs trying to force it in mid cycle

For me personally I have upgraded my gaming machine, but not yet my work laptop
 

Puffnstuff

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Although I'm running 10 on all of my pc's I do have 7 ult, 7 home and two copies of 8.1 pro just in case I wanted to roll backwards.
 

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It's always important to take these "studies" with a grain of salt.

Does this include Enterprise-level users? Obviously that sector is not in any rush to move to Windows 10, and that makes up for a lot of PCs. It can take years to redevelop business software to be compatible with a new OS, plus environmental testing, deployment planning, do PCs need to be refreshed, etc. And Win 7 is still supported, so there's no rush.

Not to mention the twist on the title. This isn't representative of users "refusing" to move anywhere, they just don't see a reason to do an in-place upgrade on an operating system when most of them don't know or understand what an operating system even is. They'll upgrade to Windows 10 in 2-3 years when their old clunker dies and they buy a brand new one that comes with brand new Windows.

If anything, from what I'm seeing the number of people willing and interested in taking advantage of the Windows 10 upgrade has been overwhelming compared to previous version upgrades. People ask me about it at work all the time, nobody said a word about upgrading to Windows 8 when it was released.
 

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Vive la Win7!

If it ain't broke, don't break it.

This I agree its a great OS so why upgrade even for free? Also MS have a history of unleashing buggy OS's and maybe Win 10 falls into this category? Call me paranoid D: but when was the last time a big company gave away something for free??
 

tenpole

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I upgraded from windows 7 to windows 10 and so far have been pleased with it. Had a bit of trouble with one drive which caused data loss. If I could not have upgraded for free I would not have and dple stuck with windows 7.
Wife does not like windows 10 which she upgraded from windows 8.
 
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People not liking to experiment with the new software hate the changes. Maybe if Microsoft would learn from Apple how to make the upgrade process seamless and with only small number of changes between versions... it would work better.
I disagree. in 2011Q4 I bought my wife a 27" iMac running Lion. While all application software and critical/security updates have been done on that iMac, it is still running Lion.

No Mountain Lion, Mavericks, Yosemite or El Capitan. This isn't to say I have not evaluated Mountain Lion, Mavericks and Yosemite, but that was via Hackintosh and nothing compelling justified the iMac being upgrade.
 

Joepublic2

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I actually hate Microsoft's new invasive data retention/collection policies enough that I upgraded from a perfectly good 4670k to get a processor with VT-d enabled so I could migrate to Linux and still play my library of windows games without having to reboot (dual booting is a PITA and trashes my workflow). Not that Linux doesn't have its own issues, of course (documentation? that's BORING I'm too busy writing yet another audio API), but at least it's not sending my online shopping login/passwords and CC#s back to the mother ship. When some hacker cracks that nut it's going to make all these retailer data breaches over the past few years seem like a fart in the wind.

This I agree its a great OS so why upgrade even for free? Also MS have a history of unleashing buggy OS's and maybe Win 10 falls into this category? Call me paranoid D: but when was the last time a big company gave away something for free??

Easy. If you're not paying for the product you ARE the product. See: Facebook, Google, now Microsoft etc.
 
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Ketchup

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I'd rather "LOL" at the mobile results below. Linux based iOS & Android own the market.


Not to get too off topic, but the way I hear Apple people talk, and the way Microsoft wants to imitate them, it's easy to forget they still only hold 13% of the mobile market. Makes one wonder why Microsoft hasn't set their sites towards imitating Android (Linux).
 

SparkyJJO

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I actually hate Microsoft's new invasive data retention/collection policies enough that I upgraded from a perfectly good 4670k to get a processor with VT-d enabled so I could migrate to Linux and still play my library of windows games without having to reboot (dual booting is a PITA and trashes my workflow). Not that Linux doesn't have its own issues, of course (documentation? that's BORING I'm too busy writing yet another audio API), but at least it's not sending my online shopping login/passwords and CC#s back to the mother ship. When some hacker cracks that nut it's going to make all these retailer data breaches over the past few years seem like a fart in the wind.

Uh, any proof of such doings or are you just throwing a lot of baseless hyperbole out there for some reason? MS isn't getting fed your credit card info. And... <tinfoil hat> how do you know that the linux distro you have isn't doing the same, only sending it to somebody else</tinfoil hat> :sneaky:

I'd rather "LOL" at the mobile results below. *nix like iOS/Android own the market.


Wow I didn't realize the market share was so heavy towards Android. It seems it was only a couple years ago that iOS and Android were a lot closer.
 

MongGrel

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Have "usually" upgraded the Win computers here when something new comes out.

Upgraded the Main to Win X on beta, still do, have another one running Win X non beta and the wife uses my old Vista 64 and refuses to go farther yet.

I've never balked at most upgrades of Windows.
 
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