Well, I wouldn't pay a penny for this piece of crap OS, and if you're suggesting to download a leaked RTM copy, that's illegal, not to mention stupid because then you would have to install hacks to circumvent the genuine software validation. Too much trouble for something that is not worth it.
Try looking up what Win8.1 preview means ,my brother did an update on official Win7 a few months ago and yes it destroyed his PC,does it mean Win7 is crap?...People like to jump to conclusions as soon as they get there first problem,but we all know its easy to blame the OS rather then troubleshoot etc..I could throw in Win8.1 is not even officially out until October and what you were using is more or less beta version(you should know what beta means with 20 years of experience).
I will say I also have over 20 years of using PCs and operating systems actually more like 30+ years and have seen it all on both Linux and Windows,I have had issues over the decades with some ie Win3.1,XP,7,Ubuntu and Linux Mint to name a few(I still think they are are good operating systems regardless) but I never made pointless threads especially with beta operating systems, just did some detective work and fixed the issues.
it's not illegal. RTM = Release to manufacturing
that's the same as final version but its released earlier to OEMs so they can preload it on systems they sell so come October, the systems they sell will also have Windows 8.1 just like the release date.
it is not cracked or anything, you activate normally over the internet or phone and you can update and it's genuine. go figure
I know what RTM stands for, but did you pay for it? If not, it's illegal, period. If you paid for it, then good for you. You just purchased the worst software product of all time.
Another sheep on the Windows 8 hate train.
dude why would I pay for it and why is it illegal when I have a Windows 8 Single Language Key built into my BIOS?????? that's why it activates just fine! what concept do you have in your head saying its illegal its coming as an update very soon I know the manager of the ASUS Service center in Dubai so he gave me the ISO which they got from Microsoft.
ah no problem, slight misunderstanding hereOK, but you didn't say you had Windows 8.
It's not a matter of giving up at the first sign of trouble, or the second or third, it's an OS designed by idiots with really poor visual taste and not even one quarter of the testing that Windows 7 had, because the Win 7 consumer preview didn't have any of these issues.
But for all the experience you claim to have, apparently when it comes to this you don't know more than I do, unless you know what the solution to my problem is and you don't want to tell me.
Another sheep on the "I will buy whatever crap Microsoft pukes" train.
So if for you having an opinion on things is being a sheep, then everybody is a sheep.
I would say sheep are those who blindly follow a company to death no matter how bad their products eventually become, or if they are not the holy grail they claim to be, as in the case of Apple products, or those who will love every version of Windows no matter how terrible it is. And I'm far less demanding than many people, in fact I wasn't even a Vista hater, I'd be happy if I still used Vista to this day.
So why no back up??? only chumps don`t back up their files!1Yeah dude, pebkac error... I have been a computer geek for 20 years now, I've installed all versions of Windows since 3.1 on dozens of computers, and I also built several computers for myself, friends and clients which still work fine to this day, included the one I installed this abomination on, which has ran Windows 7 Professional without a single BSOD in a year and is far stable than any other PC or Mac I have ever used. Yea, I'm such a rookie...
Well, if you're such an experienced user, I assume you can tell me how to get rid of the Microsoft virus and boot into my Windows 7 installation that was working perfectly fine until yesterday. Otherwise you're just trolling.
but wait he has been a computer geek for 20 years..lololWhy bother with preview version when final is out next month?..Also Microsoft released Win8.1 RTM to OEMs to get feedback and also to help find any issues with bugs etc so even 8.1 RTM might get an update by time its out next month,nobody knows everything otherwise Microsoft would have a perfect OS, that's why people test and give feedback.
To be honest you really better off waiting for final version of 8.1 before troubleshooting rather then trying to fix a preview of 8.1 OS that is really redundant.
Why bother with preview version when final is out next month?..Also Microsoft released Win8.1 RTM to OEMs to get feedback and also to help find any issues with bugs etc so even 8.1 RTM might get an update by time its out next month,nobody knows everything otherwise Microsoft would have a perfect OS, that's why people test and give feedback.
To be honest you really better off waiting for final version of 8.1 before troubleshooting rather then trying to fix a preview of 8.1 OS that is really redundant.
Just a question, did you hurt your legs jumping on the hate train?
So why no back up??? only chumps don`t back up their files!1
but wait he has been a computer geek for 20 years..lolol
Yes, LOLOLOL but you, and nobody here has been able to tell me how to fix the problem I started the post about, because I didn't to state my hatred for this POS OS, but to see if I could boot into Windows 7 one last time to get some settings and work on some urgent things before I wiped the drive for a full reinstall.
Now it's pointless because I already installed Windows 7 to that small drive to make space on the other drives and copy my files so I could wipe the drive and start the Windows 7 installation in the 3 TB drive, which looks like it's going to be my last version of Windows unless Microsoft gets their head out of their ass and releases an OS for desktops that not only doesn't crash every two minutes, but one that doesn't require the user to click 5 times for things that used to be one click in Win 7.
In fact, I'm going to use that small drive to install Linux Mint 15 in it, to correct the huge mistake I made in installing Windows 8.1.
So some of you with your arrogant attitude make me laugh, because if you're going to mock me then I assume you know how to fix my problem, but hey, nobody here told me how, so the joke is on you.
You could read FAQs on preview here http://windows.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-8/preview-faqAre there risks to installing Windows 8.1 Preview?
Yes. Windows 8.1 Preview and Windows RT 8.1 Preview are stable and have been thoroughly tested, but aren't the finished product. Your PC could crash and you could lose important files. You should back up your data and you shouldn't test the preview on your primary home or business PC. You might also encounter problems like:
- Software that doesn’t install or work correctly, including antivirus or security programs.
- Printers, video cards, or other hardware that doesn’t work.
- Difficulty accessing corporate or home networks.
- Damage to some of your files.
You should carefully balance the risks and rewards of trying out the preview before you install it.
So you expect us to help you even when Microsoft don't offer tech support for beta OS.Where do I go for Windows 8.1 Preview support?
We’ve created some online forums where you can ask questions and get answers from other preview testers and Microsoft support professionals. (We don't offer technical support for prerelease software, including Windows 8.1 Preview.)
This was a user error. Nothing more and nothing less.
Solutions to these types of problem are all over the internet and require the use of the windows recovery console to rebuild the BCD to a Windows 7 version.
I hate it when I make stupid mistakes, but it's easier to admit it and move on than blame a product because you didn't do your homework.
if people used your way of thinking wanna be geeks would never have given Linux a chance because "Grub has overwritten my Windows boot record".
Don't blame the product. Blame your own failings and move on. You learn more that way!
so if you hate Win8( I did see POS OS mentioned in your post so says it all for your opinion)probably won't like Win8.1 final ,as to fixing it well clean installation of Win 8.1 final is your best bet next month,forget about preview version ,stability wise Win8 is solid on my PC 10 /10 on reliability history etc and I expect 8.1 final to be the same
Or you could accept that you made a mistake and save yourself a self inflicted headache.Your idiotic condescending tone is based on your own failing to read instead of just typing, which if you would have done you would have read in my first post that I did my homework, that I searched everywhere for answers, I tried to implement all of them without success, even after the recovery console to rebuild the BCD.
It's NOT my own failing, it's the failing of a corporation that doesn't give a damn about desktop users but only about tablet ones, because unfortunately that's where everything is headed these days. But I did learn something from this experience, which is not to install another Microsoft OS ever again after Windows 7, and that Anandtech doesn't have users as knowledgeable as I thought because other than stupid condescending replies I haven't read a single one that would give me a solution.
And even if Windows 8.1 RTM was completely different from this POS consumer preview in terms of stability, it would still be an abomination in terms of usability and looks. Not only everything takes more clicks and mouse movement than Windows 7 or Vista, the thing is hideous. I have to work with this thing several hours a day. Windows 7 is ugly enough compared to Mac OS X or Linux, but it's tolerable in part thanks to Aero, which Windows 8 doesn't have. The desktop in Windows 8 looks like a bad copy of an 80's OS. In one of those themes or skin websites, it would be the one that you cringe at for being so ugly, the one you would never download. And they chose that for the desktop.
I'm not a fan of Steve Jobs, but he said something once that stays true to this day: "My problem with Microsoft is that they have bad taste." Indeed.
Yesterday I had the most stupid idea I've had in a long time. I had a spare SATA drive from an old computer and I decided to install a giant virus. This giant virus is called Windows 8.1 Consumer Preview, which closely follows Windows 8 as the worst OS in the history of the universe, in which not only it's unusable, but also that it leaves your computer unbootable into anything that is not this godawful abomination.
The problem is, once I realized that what some people were saying about 8.1 being such an improvement over 8 wasn't true, I wanted to just take away the old drive and go back to my Windows 7 Pro installation. That's when the nightmare began.
First of all, this very poorly conceived attempt at an operating system takes about 30 seconds even to reach the stage where you can choose the OS to boot. But when choosing Windows 7, after a few seconds I get this error:
\Windows\System 32\winload.efi
Status: 0xC0000428
Info: The digital signature for this file could not be verified.
So I figured I would simply boot from the Windows 7 install DVD, choose a startup repair and be done. Boy was I wrong. After doing that unsuccessfully a few times, I went online from another computer to search for a solution. It turns out that several other people had that problem, but I tried every single suggestion I read in several forums and none of them worked. Things like this: http://www.eightforums.com/installa...em32-winload-efi-status-0xc0000428-error.html although many users seem to have the same error code but with the file winload.exe instead. Perhaps this has to do with the fact that I have made my boot drive a GPT.
So I figured at least I would wipe the small drive that I had the antichrist OS installed onto and install Windows 7 temporarily to at least be able to access the files I had in the boot drive. Well, this source of all evil OS corrupts the system so badly that after the Win 7 install disc finishes copying the files and reboots, the next time it still gives me the same 0xc0000428 error. The only way I was able to install Windows 7 was to physically unplug the other 3 drives in my computer and leave only the old small drive, then plug them back in when Win 7 was already installed.
By now I'm resigned to spend all weekend reinstalling Windows 7 and all my programs to go back to where I was, but I would really like to be able to boot into my older Windows 7 installation to finish some work before I do the new install.
So the first I did was to make a serious promise that I will never ever buy Windows 8, and given the way Microsoft has fallen out of touch with their customers, Windows 7 is the last Windows version I will ever have.
But other than that, can anyone think of a way I can boot into my older Windows 7 install? It's on a Seagate Barracuda 3 TB, one GPT partition if it makes a difference.
Thanks,
The guy who hates Windows 8 the most in the whole wide world.
Yeah, cows will fly to the moon by themselves before I install Windows 8 ever again. I can use Windows 7 for several more years, perhaps after that more major apps will have been ported to Linux, or perhaps Mac OS X will be open to all computers without any hacks.
Or you could accept that you made a mistake and save yourself a self inflicted headache.