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XZeroII

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[I didn't have anything nice to say, so ViRGE shut me up]

-ViRGE
 
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ImDonly1

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If everything works and there are no issues with gaming I will try it. I don't think I would buy it unless I got a good deal on it (like the $30 Windows 7 deals). I am happy with Win 7 and don't think I can justify spending money upgrading to Win 8. Win 7 still seems new to me.

And LOL at the I hate the so and so change. These comments always come up every release, then people learn to use it and like it.
 

StinkyPinky

Diamond Member
Jul 6, 2002
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Windows 7 is the best OS I've ever used. Worked great out the box. Windows 8 will have to be awesome for me to change.
 

TSDible

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I'm pretty happy with the progression of MS OSes in general. Windows 7 is actually pretty solid. I can see myself upgrading to 8, but changing the interface to a more classic style.

Windows 3.1-1992
Windows 95-1995
Windows 98-1998
Windows 2k-2000
Windows ME-2000 (Home edition of windows 2k)
Windows XP-2001
Windows Vista-2006
Windows 7-2009
Windows 8-2012

Aside from 00-01, MS has been on a fairly consistent release cycle. The timing is nothing new.

To the bold...

Blasphemy!

Windows ME was a terrible piece of crap... it was basically an extremely bloated and unstable version built on the Windows 95/98 base. It was not a home edition of Windows 2k. That is essentially what XP was.
 

BTA

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Agreed. ME was their attempt to take the DOS portions out of Win98se

It was terrible.

Win2000 was actually pretty good.
 
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As long as they give the option to do away with the Metro completely on traditional desktops, I'm all for it and will upgrade day 1. The developer preview kind of surprised me with how they had it implemented, but I understand that was extremely early and no representative of the final product in any way.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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As long as they give the option to do away with the Metro completely on traditional desktops, I'm all for it and will upgrade day 1. The developer preview kind of surprised me with how they had it implemented, but I understand that was extremely early and no representative of the final product in any way.
Don't count on it. That would be like buying Windows 95 for the explicit purpose of only running DOS applications. Microsoft wants you using Metro and developers writing for Metro, and that means Metro needs to be kept enabled.
 

craftech

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The problem with liking one of Microsoft's Operating Systems is that if they produce a really good one that a lot of people like (such as XP Pro) they stop support for it after a relatively short period of time.

So why (you ask) should they continue support?

Because endless security holes will always be a part of their OS due to their absolute refusal to separate their OS from their browsers and e-mail clients. That one move alone would reduce the vulnerability. So if they won't ever do that then they should continue support for their security plagued OS much longer instead of trying to force people to "upgrade" when it may not really be an "upgrade".

John
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Frankly Craftech you're about a decade out of date. Trident (the IE rendering engine) still ships as part of Windows, but it's not integrated into Explorer in anything resembling the way it was in 98/XP. IIRC, the only thing the OS uses it for besides the default browser is for displaying help files. And complaining about the OS being integrated with their email client is totally off-base, since Windows doesn't even ship with an email client (which frankly I find ridiculous).

In any case, if you take a look at the vulnerabilities in Windows, Trident has next to nothing to do with it. Trident certainly has vulnerabilities, but in all recent cases I'm aware of, those require being run in IE to exploit (which makes integration irrelevant). Outside of Trident, the bulk of the vulnerabilities in Windows are entirely unrelated.

PS 13 years of support is a long period of time. You won't find any other desktop OS close to that
 

gmaster456

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Don't count on it. That would be like buying Windows 95 for the explicit purpose of only running DOS applications. Microsoft wants you using Metro and developers writing for Metro, and that means Metro needs to be kept enabled.
If that's the case I will be stocking up on Windows 7 keys.
 

Desturel

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Nov 25, 2001
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Total noob: what is the Metro?

Metro is the UI for Windows 8. It's based around touch so it's "tablet friendly", but from all accounts it's only good for touch. Not so good for mouse, keyboard and other interface methods.
 

janas19

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Nov 10, 2011
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Metro is the UI for Windows 8. It's based around touch so it's "tablet friendly", but from all accounts it's only good for touch. Not so good for mouse, keyboard and other interface methods.

So it's used on the desktop version? That's weird.
 

janas19

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Nov 10, 2011
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Interesting. The start button doesn't display the Start menu.

Idk, it looks kind of interesting on the whole, imo.
 

ViRGE

Elite Member, Moderator Emeritus
Oct 9, 1999
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Metro is the UI for Windows 8. It's based around touch so it's "tablet friendly", but from all accounts it's only good for touch. Not so good for mouse, keyboard and other interface methods.
Metro is more than a UI. It's a complete design framework; it encompasses not just a new UI, but a largely new API (WinRT) too.
 

Binky

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Oct 9, 1999
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The only persistent bugs I've found in Win7 is the person sitting in the user chair. Otherwise, it's been very stable on every machine I've built.

I'm looking forward to Win8, mainly for the tablets.
 

wirednuts

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ill probably wait till win9 or maybe a service pack... every time microsoft comes out with a new idea they quickly give it a refresh based on user feedback. unlikely win8 will be the longstanding os like win7, winxp, and so on were.
 
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