I don't think you understand how the snap feature works. When a Metro app is snapped, an event is fired informing the app of which location its in. This is a more precise configuration than a simple resized event, and it allows the app to shift its view to be more presentable in that format. This allows developers to create distinct views for snapped vs full screen, which, if done properly, will both look better & require less dev effort than parsing through resize events.
So I finally sprang it on my wife. Reactions ranged from "wtf is this" to "I don't like this.". Choice quotes include "how do I go to a website", "how do I move this out of the way" and "how do I open a tab?".
When I finally showed her the desktop she went "oh, good. what was all that other stuff about". She then proceeded to instinctively open a browser window, a few tabs, and got to work. At no point did it seem to occur to her that she was having difficulty with the windows paradigm she's been using for decades. She wanted to open up email so I told her to figure it out. She stumbled around near the taskbar until the start menu came up by accident. She launched it and it came up in metro mode and she kept asking me how to make it just stay in "normal mode."
I told her that in windows 8, this IS normal mode. The desktop is the fallback. She looks at me in utter disbelief, slams the laptop shut and says "I can't deal with this shit".
They leave behind the desktop at their peril. Normal people are just not going to be ok with this drastic a change.
Quick question: How the hell do you even snap two metro apps? Its not like any of this is intuitive. Also, how the hell do I get the url bar or open a new tab in IE? Everything just disappears.
You can snap either by clicking and dragging from the top of the window and pulling it to the side, or by hitting Win + . or Win + Shift + . to move the active app right/left. The desktop is snappable as well, so you can have a metro app (like messages or music) snapped to the side and your desktop as the primary. The best use I've found for this so far is remote desktop (which is a metro app) and the standard desktop. If you work with various remote machines like I do, it makes swapping between them & your active desktop pretty slick.
You can also right click anywhere on a page to bring up the tab and address view. I find the right clicking a little awkward - but I'm so used to the keyboard shortcuts that I don't really notice it.
So I finally sprang it on my wife. Reactions ranged from "wtf is this" to "I don't like this.". Choice quotes include "how do I go to a website", "how do I move this out of the way" and "how do I open a tab?".
When I finally showed her the desktop she went "oh, good. what was all that other stuff about". She then proceeded to instinctively open a browser window, a few tabs, and got to work. At no point did it seem to occur to her that she was having difficulty with the windows paradigm she's been using for decades. She wanted to open up email so I told her to figure it out. She stumbled around near the taskbar until the start menu came up by accident. She launched it and it came up in metro mode and she kept asking me how to make it just stay in "normal mode."
I told her that in windows 8, this IS normal mode. The desktop is the fallback. She looks at me in utter disbelief, slams the laptop shut and says "I can't deal with this shit".
They leave behind the desktop at their peril. Normal people are just not going to be ok with this drastic a change.
When I do that, the window gets real small, and I can move it around a bit, but whatever I do it just goes back to full screen. Unless I drag it to the bottom, then it seemingly closes. Win + . seems to show the desktop?
Its ridiculous that I couldn't figure that out, but that's not exactly obvious either.
When I do that, the window gets real small, and I can move it around a bit, but whatever I do it just goes back to full screen. Unless I drag it to the bottom, then it seemingly closes. Win + . seems to show the desktop?
Its ridiculous that I couldn't figure that out, but that's not exactly obvious either.
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Windows 8 should have only been targeted at tablets and phones in my opinion.
That's what it did for me until I got new drivers for my video card - snap isn't available below 1366x768, unless you use a registry hack. What resolution are you running?
Right click isn't terribly intuitive but once you know it, its useful in every metro app.
1280x800.
I'm going to lose my shit if you tell me I can't run two apps side by side in that resolution.
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"That is one of the challenges ms is facing here.... you really have to forget how you have used windows the past 20 yrs. It is going to take some retraining but once you do you realize there is a new way to do virtually everything you used to do some of it is simpler and some of it is more complex."
This is absolutely absurd. Microsoft really thinks that people will simply 'forget' how to use the old windows and just completely relearn this new POS?
Here's some negatives i already see:
1) Businesses will NEVER adopt this kind of OS.
2) People like my parents will NOT want to have to relearn everything. (they barely struggle to figure out regular windows!)
3) Power users are going to stick with Windows 7.
4) Do any of you want to try 'supporting' your relatives and friends when they call you relentlessly with stupid questions?
Unless i'm just really missing something huge here, i guess i'm just really dissapointed and feel like we're taking a giant leap backwards.
Windows 8 should have only been targeted at tablets and phones in my opinion.
I think it would be interesting to see the demographics of people who like / don't like this iteration of 8. I have a feeling the 20-somethings probably like it more than the older folks.
Is the Xbox Live application working for you guys? I feel it might be region locked right now.
guys i really dont think microsoft expects businesses to buy this os... they know there wont be any need to upgrade from win7 anytime in the foreseeable future, especially when most companies just run their own software and the os is just the os.
The problem is, Microsoft is in too deep. No one wants to pull the plug on this disaster and take responsibility for it. Doing so would mean taking a loss on countless millions of dollars spent on development and not mention years of development. The next version of Windows would have to be started from scratch, and it could be 3 more years until we see a new version of Windows. They are simply in too deep. Microsoft will continue to escalate their commitment to this train wreck until it falls off a cliff.
Mark my words - this will go down in computing/business history as one of the worst mistakes ever made. Business and computer science students will be reading about this for thirty years.
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For future reference, the minimum screen resolution for snapping is 1366 x 768.1280x800.
I'm going to lose my shit if you tell me I can't run two apps side by side in that resolution.
I think most big companies skip a cycle - they don't have the time or money to upgrade to every version of Windows...and a whole lot of them upgraded to Windows 7.
Microsoft has done it before. Millennium was released in 2000 (Microsoft's version of New Coke) and XP was released the following year. Nothing will ever compare to the abomination that was Millennium but people soon forget. They did it again in late 2006 early 2007 with Vista and then had 7 released in 2009.