Windows 8 on a tablet preview

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Deeko

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Hello from Windows 8! Running pretty smoothly on an old (but powerful at the time) laptop from 2005 or so. Can't find the correct graphics driver though, so I'm stuck at 1024x768 at the moment, but everything else is working well so far.
 

SAWYER

Lifer
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I want to install this on my desktop, can i create a partition on my only drive while it has my win 7 on it and install this on it?
 

smartpatrol

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The ARM version wouldn't run existing Windows software, so it's almost like an entirely separate platform.

Fact is, this review was done on a tablet with an i5, and app performance will suffer on a lower powered tablet.

Will MS somehow make a seamless desktop/portable OS with Windows 8? Let's just say I'm not hopeful.

Windows 8 is a real desktop OS with a real file system, explorer, etc. You can use it exactly the same way you use Windows 7. Or you can use it simply like a tablet, using only touch-optimized Metro apps. Or do some mix of both.

It uses significantly less memory, is less CPU-intensive, and boots up very quickly.

What more exactly would you want in order to consider it a "seamless desktop/portable OS"?
 

foghorn67

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I ran this on something Atom powered. I only two minutes with it, but it was awesome.
My doubts are gone.
 

BoberFett

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Windows 8 is a real desktop OS with a real file system, explorer, etc. You can use it exactly the same way you use Windows 7. Or you can use it simply like a tablet, using only touch-optimized Metro apps. Or do some mix of both.

It uses significantly less memory, is less CPU-intensive, and boots up very quickly.

What more exactly would you want in order to consider it a "seamless desktop/portable OS"?

After so many versions of Windows growing massively in size with each iteration, I simply won't believe that Microsoft has finally managed to make a slim version that's backward compatible until I see and use it myself.

If they have, I'll be incredibly impressed. I've been an MS stack developer for a long time, and even app size grows with every generation. Color me skeptical.
 

dlock13

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After so many versions of Windows growing massively in size with each iteration, I simply won't believe that Microsoft has finally managed to make a slim version that's backward compatible until I see and use it myself.

If they have, I'll be incredibly impressed. I've been an MS stack developer for a long time, and even app size grows with every generation. Color me skeptical.

It used 6 GB to install. Also, I'm going to try and play Dead Island and see if that runs at all.

One thing that really irks me so far is that I cannot close out of an application. Let's say I'm in the Metro interface, you can't close anything there. It's all suspended. I understand the purpose, but what if I want to actually close it?
 

Deeko

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Yea I find that odd...there has to be a way I can't figure it out. You can kill it via the task manager, but I haven't figured out a way from within the app.
 

dlock13

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Yea I find that odd...there has to be a way I can't figure it out. You can kill it via the task manager, but I haven't figured out a way from within the app.

I mean I realize it's a dev build which is why there's no media functionality within the Metro UI, but a close feature? Is that too much to ask?

Also, I have a question regarding the desktop interface. How in the bloody hell do you get icons or anything to show up there? Normally, you could click start and then show on desktop then click My Documents, profile, etc... However, I had to go into explorer and then drag and drop a shortcut to My Computer. I can't click start and find the application I want to use.

I find it incredibly difficult to switch between applications from the left. Not in the sense that I couldn't do it, but the fact that if you have 5+ applications open and you want to get to a certain one, you have to keep dragging and dropping. They need to incorporate some kind of window pane that shows the apps you have open (a la Honeycomb), but let them be able to be dragged and more or something of that sort. Currently, I think it's a little bit clunky.
 

BoberFett

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6GB? Christ, that's not a mobile OS. Install a game or two and couple of regular non-mobile apps and your SSD is full.
 

Deeko

Lifer
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6GB? Christ, that's not a mobile OS. Install a game or two and couple of regular non-mobile apps and your SSD is full.

You're right, it isn't - its a developer preview of an operating system that will cover many different form factors. What's the point in getting worked up over the install size? I imagine come release time there will be a different version tailored to tablets than workstations.

Also, I have a question regarding the desktop interface. How in the bloody hell do you get icons or anything to show up there? Normally, you could click start and then show on desktop then click My Documents, profile, etc... However, I had to go into explorer and then drag and drop a shortcut to My Computer. I can't click start and find the application I want to use.

I'm not sure if there's a better way to get a shortcut on your desktop, if you just want to find something to run it, go to the lower left corner, a little menu pops up, click "search", then "apps", and you can either browse from there or type what you're looking for.

I find it incredibly difficult to switch between applications from the left. Not in the sense that I couldn't do it, but the fact that if you have 5+ applications open and you want to get to a certain one, you have to keep dragging and dropping. They need to incorporate some kind of window pane that shows the apps you have open (a la Honeycomb), but let them be able to be dragged and more or something of that sort. Currently, I think it's a little bit clunky.

Alt+Tab still works.
 

smartpatrol

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After so many versions of Windows growing massively in size with each iteration, I simply won't believe that Microsoft has finally managed to make a slim version that's backward compatible until I see and use it myself.

If they have, I'll be incredibly impressed. I've been an MS stack developer for a long time, and even app size grows with every generation. Color me skeptical.

http://www.winextra.com/archives/wi...alf-the-memory-than-windows-7-out-of-the-box/

This is the slide I was thinking of. It shows the difference in RAM usage/# of processes between Windows 7 & 8.
 

benzylic

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I want to install this on my desktop, can i create a partition on my only drive while it has my win 7 on it and install this on it?

Yes, you can, I did exactly that. Just boot into the installer after you partition your drive and select custom install. Works perfectly fine
 

SAWYER

Lifer
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What program do you suggest to make a partition? I tried to shrink the volume in disk management but it wouldn't let me.
 
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Skel

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Hello from Windows 8! Running pretty smoothly on an old (but powerful at the time) laptop from 2005 or so. Can't find the correct graphics driver though, so I'm stuck at 1024x768 at the moment, but everything else is working well so far.

I had the same issue on a Lenovo T60. I dug up an Vista version of the driver. I had to run it in compatibility mode, but once I did that it installed correctly and my graphics were much much better.
 

Nintendesert

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I have a GeForce 8400M on my laptop so I was able to get the Windows 7 drivers from the Nvidia site and they seem to be working fine with Windows 8. It is performing really well and it is definitely geared to tablets for that Metro UI.

I like it though, and just pulled and put a new HDD in my laptop for my install. There's a little wonkiness though with my touchpad on this computer, so I might have to go check the drivers at the HP website.
 

quest55720

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I am so pumped. I was going to get a windows 7 tablet this fall. I will hold off on that tablet until W8 RC is out. W8 is exactly what I am looking for in a tablet OS. Hopefully before then AMD has next generation Bobcats out a quad core bobcat with w8 in a tablet be perfect combo.
 

alent1234

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After so many versions of Windows growing massively in size with each iteration, I simply won't believe that Microsoft has finally managed to make a slim version that's backward compatible until I see and use it myself.

If they have, I'll be incredibly impressed. I've been an MS stack developer for a long time, and even app size grows with every generation. Color me skeptical.


most of the bloat is 5 different versions of dll's and system files for backward compatibility and a driver database

starting with vista SP2 and server 2008 r2 it's an entirely different OS than what we saw before and rewritten from scratch
 

buzzsaw13

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I just checked out the windows 8 build for the samsung tablet they gave away in anahiem. UI is pretty neat and it was pretty fun messing around with it. It might make for a good gaming tablet since it has some pretty beefy hardware in it.
 
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