windows 8

[mirandu04]

i won't even bother into trying games before a stable release is made by Micros developers. but i am sure by the time the new OS will be out most of the games would be playable

 

[PowerYoga]

my pc is not a tablet. So no switch.

 

[destrekor]

WIndows 8 is more of a way for MS to bring one OS to all device types, its more a developers dream. It offers nothing for consumers.

how does "one OS for all device types" equal "offers nothing for consumers" ??

I'm ecstatic about where this will take us, and hope things work out alright in the end.
Remember, Microsoft NEVER gets anything perfect on attempt #1. Whenever we get Metro V2, be it Win 8 SP1/SE or even Windows 9, we'll all be much happier.

For the longest while, I've been wanting a tablet with Android (to match my Android smartphone). And while I still ultimately want that, so I can keep a single ecosystem for my portables and cloud-life, it still ends up being a mess with Google and Microsoft not playing all that well together (and google determined to be cloud/portable only, no desktop apps and making it hard to perfectly integrate into the desktop).
On the desktop end (if only mouse navigation was a little easier in Win8), it looks like they went and made Win8 even better than Win7 on some fronts (ribbon in Explorer, awesome! Single ecosystem across all devices on Metro, awesome!).

Keeping up with Win 8, it more and more seems like what I really want on a tablet, since I can do a whole heck of a lot Windows specific on a tablet with Metro, and sync things between desktop and tablet very easily. Windows on ARM might be held back a little by removal of desktop apps, but that isn't a huge deal since that would be clunky anyway. Windows desktop on tablets has never and probably won't be great, unless it's a hinged laptop style tablet.
Depending on hackability (as Microsoft is planning on using Secure EFI on their ARM version), I've been planning on dual-booting an awesome Android tablet with Win8, or the other way around. It'll be awesome if I can even do that with a phone, because if I can get full Zune, I might be able to ditch my Zune HD (works great, but it's yet another device and the last hardware iteration of the platform).

On the desktop, I am still not sold on whether I'll upgrade from Windows 7. Win7 is just too awesome for a Windows OS (while it has quirks, like any Windows OS mated to non-standard power-user hardware configurations and less-common activities), and ultimately, I think I'll only switch to Win8 if performance across the board is better than Win7. I'd be on the desktop in Win8 more often than Metro, at least on the PC without touch, so I'll definitely keep up with Win8 development to see if any changes are made for ease of use on non-touch PCs.

 

[KentState]

If we can get touchscreens going in the next few years that are of decent quality and affordable, then I will look forward to switching. However, games and software will have to run before I completely switch over.

 

[Mem]

anyone tried any games in windows 8, like skyrim or another? are they faster? same?

any inputs?

I would try some but have given up on trying to get basic sound out of my Win8,until thats sorted won't be trying any games.

 

[JamesV]

Windows 8 is like the Wii of the software world. It has some interesting parts (task manager), but overall appears to be some casual piece of junk to computer-literate people.

There is no way I'm buying 8, but my cousin who just got out of college is excited about 'Metro'... maybe MS is trying to get the kids who grew up with phones, but without any real tech savvy.

 

[destrekor]

Windows 8 is like the Wii of the software world. It has some interesting parts (task manager), but overall appears to be some casual piece of junk to computer-literate people.

There is no way I'm buying 8, but my cousin who just got out of college is excited about 'Metro'... maybe MS is trying to get the kids who grew up with phones, but without any real tech savvy.

I'm not far removed from college, and I'm excited for the possibilities, yet I am also tech savvy.
This is definitely the "moving forward with the current/young generations" concept at play, and I doubt any of the changes will ultimately prove popular with anybody in the aging PC crowd. This isn't for that crowd though, because even though all the power user functionality can be accessed without much issue, everything else is about moving forward and unifying multiple devices.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I didn't say it was better. Just people are bagging on it like it's some huge step backwards when used on a PC compared to a tablet.

It's the same crap presented in a different way and it's not really any more or less difficult to use with a mouse and keyboard once you spend an hour getting used to it. It's not a huge step back. It may be a step sideways, but really it's nothing to go witch hunting over.

Now the ribbon, on the other hand....

I am not sure yet about Win 8. The metro interface might be beneficial on a laptop, if you could use the touch feature to avoid using the trackpad or a mouse, while having the keyboard for typing. It is just too bad that you cant completely disable it on a desktop.

But I am glad to hear that someone else still hates the ribbon interface as much as I do. I cannot think of words sufficient to describe how much I hate the ribbon.

 

[frozentundra123456]

I'm not far removed from college, and I'm excited for the possibilities, yet I am also tech savvy.
This is definitely the "moving forward with the current/young generations" concept at play, and I doubt any of the changes will ultimately prove popular with anybody in the aging PC crowd. This isn't for that crowd though, because even though all the power user functionality can be accessed without much issue, everything else is about moving forward and unifying multiple devices.

I think I, and most of the people on these forums, are very "tech savvy". Like I said in my other post, I can see the usefulness of Metro on a laptop or tablet. But do you really want to lean over your desk and scrunch up within touching distance of a 27 inch monitor?

 

[DeadFred]

ROFL!

I just moved to from Vista to Windows 7 last October.

 

[destrekor]

I think I, and most of the people on these forums, are very "tech savvy". Like I said in my other post, I can see the usefulness of Metro on a laptop or tablet. But do you really want to lean over your desk and scrunch up within touching distance of a 27 inch monitor?

Considering I don't have a touchscreen monitor, that would be a waste of effort to even do such.

Considering this is a single OS, and seeing it will be beneficial on a few devices, it is great. Also of note, if you have such devices, you can instantly get into the same exact apps, do the same things, and have the data and settings completely synced and ready to roll in the Metro apps, regardless of what device you are using at that particular moment.

If you have a PC and only a PC, I can imagine this will be a pain in the ass. Hell, I imagine some devs will try and make cross-platform services that sync across portables, regardless of which OS one uses, so that could be great as well.
That, and sometimes the clean, simple interface of Metro, I imagine, will be nice to use if you simply want to check something and get back to what you were doing. Live Tiles are amazing for just that thing - check the start screen, see the data you want, without clicking a thing, then back to the desktop app you were using.

A lot of us are also very unfamiliar with the entire concept of Metro (my only experience being Zune and what I've read of it in regards to Win Phone 7 and now Win8), so we've all got to learn the new time-saving tricks that Metro has that we've never experienced before. How to get to things quickly, some of us know in Windows (desktop), but in Metro we are at a loss, and wasting time. And Metro will probably get some tweaks in that regard, hopefully for Win8's release but, if not, then for whatever gives us Metro v2.

There is certainly a lot Metro has to offer us, but many are, so far, seeing it as "removing features we loved" and "ridiculous and requiring more effort to get to what we want" ... yet there are things that can and are accomplished with less effort inside of Metro (compared to "desktop" style Windows). A lot of the hate right now is exactly like Vista hate, but in a different way.
Shitty driver experience with Vista gave people a bad taste, and many repeated the opinions of others without ever touching it, or with having experience that only showed them how things changed without seeing actual stability/usefulness. I loved Vista, and 7 is even better (and even more stable). I think Windows 8 also uses a 6.x kernel, so that should at least be good for drivers/stability (on the Intel side).

 

[MrDuma]

ROFL!

I just moved to from Vista to Windows 7 last October.

you are a late bloomer my friend