windows 8

[gammaray]

anyone tried any games in windows 8, like skyrim or another? are they faster? same?

any inputs?

 

[QueBert]

I tried 1 game so far, Visual Pinball which doesn't work. While I'm sure this is the exception and most games should work. My current gaming luck with Windows 8's offically 0/1.

 

[RavenSEAL]

Don't even bother...

 

[stebog]

Installed Win8 yesterday and have only tried one game so far. Warcraft 3, yeah, I still play it. Usually with my wife, step-son and nephew.

The game has no sound and it doesn't seem to be getting any video acceleration. Thinking it's having problems with the version of DirectX in Win8.

For gaming, don't give up your Win7 box just yet.

 

[Red Storm]

I've got no intention of migrating to Win8. Metro is fail for desktops (aka real gaming machines) and Windows 7 seems to do the job well enough.

 

[Rambusted]

I am not migrating to this metro garbage. Windows phone on my desktop? I don't even want it on my phone what the hell are they thinking.

 

[AFurryReptile]

Windows 8 is going to be a flop. Behind the Metro UI, it isn't even really that different from Windows 7. I'll just stick it out a few years until they add the start button back into Windows 9.

 

[Anarchist420]

If nvidia releases good drivers only for 8 then it might be worthit.

 

[Maximilian]

Windows 8 is going to be a flop. Behind the Metro UI, it isn't even really that different from Windows 7. I'll just stick it out a few years until they add the start button back into Windows 9.

This.

 

[dud]

Windows 8 is going to be a flop. Behind the Metro UI, it isn't even really that different from Windows 7. I'll just stick it out a few years until they add the start button back into Windows 9.

How big of a flop do you think it will be? As big as Windows ME edition? PC World had wonderfull things to say about it:

"Until another Microsoft operating system came along a few years ago, Windows Me was the bottom of the Windows barrel. This successor to Windows 98 SE, ranked No. 4 on PC World's list of the 25 worst tech products of all time, tried to be both a 16- and a 32-bit operating system. It worked about as well as a horse with wheels for front legs and hooves for back legs. It was also slow, unstable and insecure. OK, so those are all traits of Windows in general, but Me took it to an extreme. How bad was it? Microsoft sold it for only a little more than a year. Now, that's bad."

 

[Anteaus]

How big of a flop do you think it will be?

I don't think it will be a flop at all. It is just Win7 with a new interface and support for mobile chipsets. I also don't think it is designed to displace Win7. Think of it as Win7 SE. They couldn't call it that because it would have been confusing since Win7 is primarily a desktop OS for X86 only whereas Win8 is designed for for touch screens and supports multiple mobile chipsets.

My guess is Windows 7 will continue to be the primary OS for desktops/business in the forseeable future with Windows 8 pushing heavy into the mobile market until they get the saturation they are looking for. After that, it wouldn't be hard to release a service back for Win8 that includes an updated version of the Windows 7 interface.

 

[Markbnj]

Windows 8 is going to be a flop. Behind the Metro UI, it isn't even really that different from Windows 7. I'll just stick it out a few years until they add the start button back into Windows 9.

You can basically think of Metro for desktop users as a replacement for the start menu. I don't have a problem with the start menu, but I don't think the Metro start page is inherently worse. You can easily flip back and forth between the start page and the desktop, arrange tiles into groups, see all apps or filtered views, etc. I think people will be able to use it as a start page pretty much the same as they use the combination of the start menu and desktop icons now.

As a sandbox for a new style of graphical, lightweight, easily-deployable apps Metro has other pros and cons, but I think that goes well beyond a discussion of usability. I do think most of the value in this aspect is in a mobile context, not on the desktop, but we'll have to wait and see.

Overall I'm still on the fence about it, but I see what they are trying to do, and the response from the tech press has been pretty positive, even gushing in some respects.

 

[Anteaus]

I do know that traditionally we tend to hate change and often times have to be pulled kicking and screaming until we stop and say, "Ok ok, it's not that bad afterall."

The Start Menu has been around since Windows 95 so I understand the resistance. Let's all just keep and open mind. If it turns out bad well that's what it is, but if it's good we need to be open to that also and not shut the door before we even see what's gonna be on the other side.

 

[AFurryReptile]

Overall I'm still on the fence about it, but I see what they are trying to do, and the response from the tech press has been pretty positive, even gushing in some respects.

Not sure what tech press you've been reading. I've seen a whole lot of "meh."

I get what you're saying, but to me, an intuitive UI trumps all. Metro isn't that. I hate that opening Metro completely blocks your view from the rest of your desktop. I hate that the tiles aren't in any sort of easy to navigate structure. I hate that you have to scroll it left and right just to see all the tiles.

It isn't even that I hate change. It's that MS would take a very good UI, and completely scrap it. It's annoying and there is no point. EVERYBODY knows how a Windows computer works, why cause the frustration?

Plus Metro is fugly.

 

[Dominato3r]

I hate that opening Metro completely blocks your view from the rest of your desktop.

Yeah, that's true.

I hate that the tiles aren't in any sort of easy to navigate structure.

How so?

I hate that you have to scroll it left and right just to see all the tiles.

Well didn't you have to scroll up and down in the start menu?

It isn't even that I hate change. It's that MS would take a very good UI, and completely scrap it.

The desktop is still there, they just changed the start menu.


I've tried BF3 and it ran a bit laggy. I'm thinking it's cause of the old drivers.

 

[AFurryReptile]

How so?

They're large, small, different colors, different sized texts, text all over inside of the tiles, not in alphabetical order. I'd consider myself a power user, and that doesn't make for a good/quick workflow.

Well didn't you have to scroll up and down in the start menu?

I mostly use the recent programs that the start menu lists for me, and the search if I can't find something.

 

[Concillian]

They're large, small, different colors, different sized texts, text all over inside of the tiles, not in alphabetical order. I'd consider myself a power user, and that doesn't make for a good/quick workflow.

You can put them wherever you want. It needs an option to add a most used section near the front, but really, if you don't like the order it puts them in, you just change it.

I mostly use the recent programs that the start menu lists for me, and the search if I can't find something.

And just like in Vista / Win7, you hit the KB shortcut to search Metro and start typing. Or you move to the corner and start typing. It's really not as different as people are making it out to be. It takes all of an hour to adapt to the new styles.

In the end it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. It's the same crap viewed in a different way. It's not the end of the world. If you're smart and use keyboard shortcuts it's pretty much the same amount of time to navigate to stuff since Windows 2000.

People who are objecting to it without trying it are probably the same people who belly moaned about Vista, then praised Win7, which was Vista SP1 with lipstick (and more time for drivers to mature.)

 

[BTRY B 529th FA BN]

Metro is BIG fail, imo. Not for me

 

[Kadarin]

You can put them wherever you want. It needs an option to add a most used section near the front, but really, if you don't like the order it puts them in, you just change it.



And just like in Vista / Win7, you hit the KB shortcut to search Metro and start typing. Or you move to the corner and start typing. It's really not as different as people are making it out to be. It takes all of an hour to adapt to the new styles.

In the end it doesn't make a whole lot of difference. It's the same crap viewed in a different way. It's not the end of the world. If you're smart and use keyboard shortcuts it's pretty much the same amount of time to navigate to stuff since Windows 2000.

People who are objecting to it without trying it are probably the same people who belly moaned about Vista, then praised Win7, which was Vista SP1 with lipstick (and more time for drivers to mature.)

What I'm not getting from this post is how Metro is better than what came before.

 

[flexy]

I have no first-hand exp. with 8 yet but it VERY much looks and smells like a big fail to me.

If i'd want a tablet computer i would get an iPad, and on my desktop i do not need a tablet/touch OS.

I think MS's attempt to get into the tablet market is as fail as Google's attempt to get into social marketing with Google+. Companies should stick with stuff they can do best. No one NEEDS Win8.

 

[Markbnj]

What I'm not getting from this post is how Metro is better than what came before.

Simple: the interface works on a touchscreen . That's not better for us desktop users, but it's certainly better for Microsoft than having no decent mobile solution.

 

[Concillian]

What I'm not getting from this post is how Metro is better than what came before.

I didn't say it was better. Just people are bagging on it like it's some huge step backwards when used on a PC compared to a tablet.

It's the same crap presented in a different way and it's not really any more or less difficult to use with a mouse and keyboard once you spend an hour getting used to it. It's not a huge step back. It may be a step sideways, but really it's nothing to go witch hunting over.

Now the ribbon, on the other hand....

 

[Concillian]

I have no first-hand exp. with 8 yet but it VERY much looks and smells like a big fail to me.

If i'd want a tablet computer i would get an iPad, and on my desktop i do not need a tablet/touch OS.

Just try it, it's free, just give it a shot.

It's really not worse to use. As I said in the previous post, it's not necessarily better either, but it doesn't feel fail to me like Office 2010 did when I had been using O2k for 10+ years.

 

[drebo]

Metro is garbage, complete and utter crap. You can disable it, which leaves you with a regular start menu...but also disallows you from using the only good part of Windows 8: it's task manager.

Also, the ribbon has NO PLACE in Explorer windows.

 

[imaheadcase]

WIndows 8 is more of a way for MS to bring one OS to all device types, its more a developers dream. It offers nothing for consumers.