By the way, the split onscreen touch keyboard is alright and was used for all of my recent responses on this forum. I would be faster on a traditional typing keyboard but that is the nature of the beast.
I mean with several "Metro" and "desktop" applications active at once, happily cooperating, including a managed shared clipboard and such, rather than going into and out of the "desktop" WM. "Metro" apps would need to be able to take a whole side of the screen, of course, regardless of how many could end up being displayed at once.I thought Modern applications already have a inactive mode to reduce memory use when not active and being on display, and also still allow the quick recovery once put active by switching to them from the Modern taskbar.
What you really get is far greater information density. If you ever try Linux, give some tiling WMs a try. Really simple and elegant, and really quick (as in you, the user can be much more efficient than with an overlapping WM), but there's always a status bar you want wider, to read it all, an image section you want taller, and so on, leading to lots of maximize/restore cycles, half defeating the usefulness of it. It works well for very simple UIs (image/doc viewer, or a minimalistic FM like Rox), but beyond that, needs the application designed around it. Touch might need to be able to deal with lower precision, but there's no need for the WM to end up being wasted w/o touch. It would need to get much more flexible, though.On a desktop, it is easier to precisely move and manage small and overlapping windows because their titlebar size isn't finicky for a mouse/trackball/pen. But since Windows 8 was designed for touch as well, having to deal with managing windows gets harder.
Not the tail end, but that they are too separate, in UI terms. If it were more convenient to use them together with "legacy" applications, it wouldn't be so annoying. Personally, I think Metro/Modern is a tail end, that MS will be paying too much for over the long haul (they'll either end having to replace it with something similar, or turn it into a monster, over time), but that type of GUI was and will be needed, including support for a markup-based UI, with a scripting language better than VB.As in from what I am possibly understanding, Modern applications, as the one that is the pure added value? I feel that Windows 8 draws traditional and Modern as both as effective to an acceptable degree (can be better) but to say Modern applications are the tail end? There is a reason I brought up my Opera example.
I hate that for a different reason: MS took 11 years to get the start menu from released to being really good (recent+search did it for me), and just as I was warming up to it, they went and took it away .I can see all the start screen complaints - and as I iterated, didn't faze me much due to using a trackball.
I mean with several "Metro" and "desktop" applications active at once, happily cooperating, including a managed shared clipboard and such, rather than going into and out of the "desktop" WM. "Metro" apps would need to be able to take a whole side of the screen, of course, regardless of how many could end up being displayed at once.
What you really get is far greater information density.
If you ever try Linux, give some tiling WMs a try. Really simple and elegant, and really quick (as in you, the user can be much more efficient than with an overlapping WM), but there's always a status bar you want wider, to read it all, an image section you want taller, and so on, leading to lots of maximize/restore cycles, half defeating the usefulness of it. It works well for very simple UIs (image/doc viewer, or a minimalistic FM like Rox), but beyond that, needs the application designed around it. Touch might need to be able to deal with lower precision, but there's no need for the WM to end up being wasted w/o touch. It would need to get much more flexible, though.
Not the tail end, but that they are too separate, in UI terms. If it were more convenient to use them together with "legacy" applications, it wouldn't be so annoying. Personally, I think Metro/Modern is a tail end, that MS will be paying too much for over the long haul (they'll either end having to replace it with something similar, or turn it into a monster, over time), but that type of GUI was and will be needed, including support for a markup-based UI, with a scripting language better than VB.
I hate that for a different reason: MS took 11 years to get the start menu from released to being really good (recent+search did it for me), and just as I was warming up to it, they went and took it away .
Microsoft to allow users to jump straight to desktop in Windows 8.1?
Microsoft may be working on an option to jump straight to the desktop for users in Windows Blue, according to code found inside important operating system files. For as long as Windows 8 has been out, many have criticized the usage of the Start Screen in favor of the usage of the Start Menu.
For those upgrading to Windows Blue, you might now have the option to remove the Start Screen. According to the report, after examining the code in twinui.dll, there is a line that is "responsible for disabling the Start Screen" and after disabling or modifying the code it makes the system "go to the desktop automatically." Those using Windows 8 or the leaked Windows 8.1 build, you will obviously know by now that this option isn't yet available.
http://www.winbeta.org/news/microsoft-possibly-working-letting-user-disable-start-screen
great, but what about start menu? regular desktop as is on windows 8 is pretty much useless unless you know how to bring shortcuts to desktop.
On W7, you press the Windows key and choose your program from a list. On W8, you press the Windows key and choose your program from a list.
title has been changed to many times, it will not let me change it anymore without contacting a mod@hclarkjr: This thread title:
"Windows Blue Confirmed, to hit RTM in june with august release"
might more accurately say:
"Windows 8.1 to hit Public Preview in June, RTM in August(?), and retail release in October(?)".