Windows Vista, worse than Windows Me?

PeteRoy

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Windows Me was the last 9x Windows version.

Windows Vista is just like Windows Me, it should be the last Windows NT version.

Windows Me was the worst 9x, slowest, crashed the most, didn't work right with many software, just like Windows Vista.

Hopefully Microsoft will realize this as they did with Windows Me and release a new Windows soon like they released Windows XP a year after Win Me.
 

CrystalBay

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You're just plagiarizing someone else's thought on the net , regarding Vista.
 

Pabster

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What a well thought out and supported opinion.

We can all agree Windows ME was a disaster.

Windows Vista, however, is great.
 

tatteredpotato

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I don't think there is any in between in this argument. Those that use it love it, and then some say, well just look at the OP.
 

KeypoX

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omg !!! i have been thinking about posting this for the last few days ... i swear i didnt read it anywhere else either


gotta say i just wiped vista out and got xp pro back in and god it feels so so so much faster and ya know what it is hahahahahaha

so long vista for a little bit atleast ... once hardware gets better we wont mind the major blow on current/ last few years hardware

my favorite vista excuse ..... drum roll please ..... drivers
 

tatteredpotato

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Originally posted by: KeypoX
omg !!! i have been thinking about posting this for the last few days ... i swear i didnt read it anywhere else either


gotta say i just wiped vista out and got xp pro back in and god it feels so so so much faster and ya know what it is hahahahahaha

so long vista for a little bit atleast ... once hardware gets better we wont mind the major blow on current/ last few years hardware

my favorite vista excuse ..... drum roll please ..... drivers

Well it really is the problem. Almost every Vista case I've seen complained about has been a driver issue. True it may be reason enough to stay away from Vista for now, but it isn't the fault of MS.
 

Stumps

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Other than gaming performance, Windows Vista is 1000000000000000000X better than ME could ever of hoped to be.

ME was still buggy even after the finally update was rolled out for it, once the driver issues are sorted with Vista it WILL be far superior to Windows XP.

If it wasn't for the piss poor gaming performance I would continue using Windows Vista Ultimate...everything else it has to offer is way beyond Windows XP Professional (especially Internet performance) and so much more stable than XP.

But alas I like to play games so I'll be rolling back to XP Pro very shortly until the driver issues are sorted.
 

fierydemise

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I really haven't seen what most people are talking about with poor gaming performance, I lose maybe 5% in some games. Hardly a deal breaker.
 

Stumps

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Originally posted by: fierydemise
I really haven't seen what most people are talking about with poor gaming performance, I lose maybe 5% in some games. Hardly a deal breaker.

I had a pretty big drop in some game, around 25-30%...I've currently been playing S.T.A.L.K.E.R and it runs pretty bad on my C2D rig with a X1950pro compared to my A64 with a 7800GS running WinXP pro.
 

Puffnstuff

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I've had more bsod's in the past two weeks with vista than I ever did in the first year of xp pro. Vista continues to invalidate itself which is real fun to get around without reinstalling the whole thing. I did it yesterday morning by unplugging my lan cable and then booting of the dvd and using system restore while disconnected from the net. MS and their wga can kiss my a$$ this bs is retarded.
 

nonameo

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Seems that some people are saying

"hasta la vista, vista"

Just had to do that.
 

Tegeril

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Originally posted by: fierydemise
I really haven't seen what most people are talking about with poor gaming performance, I lose maybe 5% in some games. Hardly a deal breaker.

Yeah, I have to agree here. Granted, I have a ridiculous GPU, but anything I've been interested in playing runs happily and smoothly at 1920x1200 with the max settings and at least 2-4x AA or more.
 

spherrod

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As people have already mentioned, the vast majority of problems with Vista can be traced to poor drivers. Given the amount of time manufacturers had this can be squarely laid at their door, rather than blaming Microsoft.

I don't really game (apart from Football Manager 2007 - greatest game in existence!) but haven't had any problems running Vista.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Pabster
What a well thought out and supported opinion.

We can all agree Windows ME was a disaster.

Windows Vista, however, is great.

:thumbsup:

I agree totally!


Ausm
 

nerp

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I've been loving my Vista and gaming experience since Februrary. The 101.70 nvidia drivers leaked yesterday have made things even better. Sure, it's a beta driver, but I thought I'd chime in as one of those silent majority types with no problems and a wonderful experience.
 

Ausm

Lifer
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Originally posted by: nerp
I've been loving my Vista and gaming experience since Februrary. The 101.70 nvidia drivers leaked yesterday have made things even better. Sure, it's a beta driver, but I thought I'd chime in as one of those silent majority types with no problems and a wonderful experience.

New nvidia drivers? cool please post a link if not on the main Nvidia site


Ausm
 

Tarrant64

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Windows ME shouldn't be brought up at any time.

There is no such thing.




And even if there were, Vista doesn't belong in the same subject title as ME.
 

dguy6789

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It is sad when people continue to bash and bash Vista just because they hate Microsoft. When one can get past the hate of Microsoft and jealousy of Mr. Gates or whatever their problem with them is, they will realize that Vista is a good step in the right direction. Pretty much everyone who uses Vista prefers it over XP. Vista is more stable, more secure, and more user friendly than XP.
 

Arkaign

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Originally posted by: dguy6789
It is sad when people continue to bash and bash Vista just because they hate Microsoft. When one can get past the hate of Microsoft and jealousy of Mr. Gates or whatever their problem with them is, they will realize that Vista is a good step in the right direction. Pretty much everyone who uses Vista prefers it over XP. Vista is more stable, more secure, and more user friendly than XP.

This is all wrong, take off the tinfoil hat buddy. I have great respect for Bill Gates, his hard work, and his charity foundation. I like most Microsoft Products, but I view them all independently, which is the only logical way of forming viewpoints. I've been using Microsoft operating systems since Dos 3.0, and have to be honest, they all have their ups and downs. Not to mention that some get better with a few updates, and some don't. When XP launched, it didn't make sense for most people, as it was basically 2000 with a facelift and better DX support. It was only after DX9 gaming became popularly supported and people's hardware became powerful enough that it truly became an outstanding OS. Vista has a good chance of evolving into something decent as well.

I own a computer shop in a mid-sized town, and the feedback on Vista has been uniformly negative. Sitting on the bench to my left is a new Gateway 5408 C2D box that someone brought in along with a retail WinXP Home package, with the instructions to get Vista "The hell off of my computer!". I get this 2-3 times a week now. My first efforts are to explain the differences in Vista, what UAC means, but usually they insist on getting rid of it.

Vista is technically better than ME, but in terms of what it really offers the average joe who just plays a game once in a while or browses the internet .. it just makes things needlessly confusing. Why spend so many years cultivating an interface layout only to abandon it purely for the pursuit of change.

In my opinion, which has echoed by most of my IT colleagues upon sharing, is that Vista and Office 07 are examples of an exaggerated attempt to make things seem different to justify the price. Move things around, hide things, but the same basic elements remain.

Probably the single largest issue that exists is UAC though, it nags the piss out of you at every turn. I'm not very confident that it will even come close to stemming the time against malware/spyware/etc.

And performance-wise, it's an absolute embarassment. I've had brand-new out of the box Intel Dual-Core premium notebooks, with 1gb DDR2, and Vista runs like petrified dog crap on them. Click start .. wait .. wait ... wait .... oh wow there's the start menu! Ditto with opening something like Word. There's just no excuse for a brand-new $1000 notebook to run so terribly. After formatting and loading XP, it's like night and day. Vista on 1gb runs like XP w/192mb. Or Win2k w/64mb. Or 98 w/16mb. Or 95 w/8mb. On my personal system, though it for whatever reason sees my 4gb as 3.25, it still seems notably more sluggish than my tuned XP install. I run 20 processes total on my XP install at most times, and there's almost zero lag in the interface or opening apps.

Anyway, please realize that genuine criticism of Vista can have absolutely nothing to do with Bill Gates or even Microsoft the corporation, but rather just the product itself. I have no problem with those who like it, but you have to realize that not everyone will.
 

VashHT

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Thats kinda funny, me and another guy at work jsut went through training with P3 machines that had 512mb of ram on mine and 256mb on his. Both of them were labeled "designed for Windows XP", and ran XP like complete utter crap. I'm not saying they would run vista better or anything, but a 1000$ laptop isn't exactly top of the line, and 1Gb of ram is not really enough for vista.
 

Ausm

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Originally posted by: Arkaign
Originally posted by: dguy6789
It is sad when people continue to bash and bash Vista just because they hate Microsoft. When one can get past the hate of Microsoft and jealousy of Mr. Gates or whatever their problem with them is, they will realize that Vista is a good step in the right direction. Pretty much everyone who uses Vista prefers it over XP. Vista is more stable, more secure, and more user friendly than XP.

This is all wrong, take off the tinfoil hat buddy. I have great respect for Bill Gates, his hard work, and his charity foundation. I like most Microsoft Products, but I view them all independently, which is the only logical way of forming viewpoints. I've been using Microsoft operating systems since Dos 3.0, and have to be honest, they all have their ups and downs. Not to mention that some get better with a few updates, and some don't. When XP launched, it didn't make sense for most people, as it was basically 2000 with a facelift and better DX support. It was only after DX9 gaming became popularly supported and people's hardware became powerful enough that it truly became an outstanding OS. Vista has a good chance of evolving into something decent as well.

I own a computer shop in a mid-sized town, and the feedback on Vista has been uniformly negative. Sitting on the bench to my left is a new Gateway 5408 C2D box that someone brought in along with a retail WinXP Home package, with the instructions to get Vista "The hell off of my computer!". I get this 2-3 times a week now. My first efforts are to explain the differences in Vista, what UAC means, but usually they insist on getting rid of it.

Vista is technically better than ME, but in terms of what it really offers the average joe who just plays a game once in a while or browses the internet .. it just makes things needlessly confusing. Why spend so many years cultivating an interface layout only to abandon it purely for the pursuit of change.

In my opinion, which has echoed by most of my IT colleagues upon sharing, is that Vista and Office 07 are examples of an exaggerated attempt to make things seem different to justify the price. Move things around, hide things, but the same basic elements remain.

Probably the single largest issue that exists is UAC though, it nags the piss out of you at every turn. I'm not very confident that it will even come close to stemming the time against malware/spyware/etc.

And performance-wise, it's an absolute embarassment. I've had brand-new out of the box Intel Dual-Core premium notebooks, with 1gb DDR2, and Vista runs like petrified dog crap on them. Click start .. wait .. wait ... wait .... oh wow there's the start menu! Ditto with opening something like Word. There's just no excuse for a brand-new $1000 notebook to run so terribly. After formatting and loading XP, it's like night and day. Vista on 1gb runs like XP w/192mb. Or Win2k w/64mb. Or 98 w/16mb. Or 95 w/8mb. On my personal system, though it for whatever reason sees my 4gb as 3.25, it still seems notably more sluggish than my tuned XP install. I run 20 processes total on my XP install at most times, and there's almost zero lag in the interface or opening apps.

Anyway, please realize that genuine criticism of Vista can have absolutely nothing to do with Bill Gates or even Microsoft the corporation, but rather just the product itself. I have no problem with those who like it, but you have to realize that not everyone will.

And performance-wise, it's an absolute embarassment. I've had brand-new out of the box Intel Dual-Core premium notebooks, with 1gb DDR2, and Vista runs like petrified dog crap on them. Click start .. wait .. wait ... wait .... oh wow there's the start menu! Ditto with opening something like Word. There's just no excuse for a brand-new $1000 notebook to run so terribly.

Performance is an embarassment??? I think Vista blows away XP in performance. Oh BTW, it is well documented that in order for Vista to run smoothly you need at least 2 gig of RAM.

Ausm
 
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