tell me you're a cvnt without saying you're a cvntWine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge (msn.com)
Wine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge
I don't eat out very often for many reasons but i would not be happy either for a extra fee for the waiters heath insurance. that should be the restaurants duty unless they screw with their hours so they don't have to offer it for them (unless this was just so they server doesn't have to pay as much from their check to get it, and still why should the customer be paying this?) for a no skill job servers and waitress's make decent money, 20% of 300 to take them their items they ordered and possibly take care of the dirty dishes after? come on we don't need forced tips and forced health insurance gotcha moments when you get the bill. "covid surcharge" lulz
Yep. Pizza is cheaper now than it was in the 80s and folks wonder why it's not as good.
No offense, but please don't use Pizza Hut and Dominos to judge quality of pizzaI don't see any decline in quality in Pizza Hut's pizzas vs in the 80s, and Dominos is way better now than I remember it being in the 80s.
Fast food pizza is where I've noticed more of a decline. Restaurant pizza seems better, in general, than anything I remember as a kid.No offense, but please don't use Pizza Hut and Dominos to judge quality of pizza
No offense, but please don't use Pizza Hut and Dominos to judge quality of pizza
chucky cheese has hardly stepped up their pizza unless you mean just 1.5 years ago when i stopped going. round table seems to be the originator of quality imo for pizza. ill take one of those chicken garlic white sauce one anyway of course they most likely are a 40$ pizza? maybe moreFast food pizza is where I've noticed more of a decline. Restaurant pizza seems better, in general, than anything I remember as a kid.
But some cheap pizza places have improved a lot, like Chuckie Cheese.
Something has to give though when a pizza is cheaper today than in 1995.
thats not true, some business's wont give their workers enough hours to qualify for health care so that cant always be the case.If you’ve been to a restaurant that provides health care to their employees then you sure have been to a restaurant where you are paying for it.
As already mentioned, this is the case for any business you patronize. You are always paying for their health care, they just don’t specifically call it out.
I’m genuinely confused here. Did you have health care during that time? If so, the Fortune 500 company was paying for it!
I was just using them because they're the examples of pizza being cheaper now than it was 30 years ago, eg, I can get a large Dominos for $8 right now whereas a large Pizza Hut was $10 in 1991 dollars. Going to a non franchised pizza joint isn't cheap these days so I wasn't talking about them.
That makes no sense. They build the cost of the benefits they give their full time employees into the cost on the menu. Obviously they account for the fact they don't give part time employees all the same benefit. How do you think business works. They would take lots of factors into menu pricing, and part time vs full time employees benefits is just one part of that.id say wrong!!!! large pizza hut
thats not true, some business's wont give their workers enough hours to qualify for health care so that cant always be the case.
yea i know exactly what is like to be waitstaff, I have been a waiter and i also was a chef/ cook before in the same restaurants and guess what.. the waiters ran everything even the managers would wait on tables to get tips. The waiter has constant free time can eat snacks order food for yourself.. the cook is sweating the whole time making less money eating nothing.That makes no sense. They build the cost of the benefits they give their full time employees into the cost on the menu. Obviously they account for the fact they don't give part time employees all the same benefit. How do you think business works
Also you have zero clue what it is like to be waitstaff in a lot of restaurants
yea i know exactly what is like to be waitstaff, I have been a waiter and i also was a chef/ cook before in the same restaurants and guess what.. the waiters ran everything even the managers would wait on tables to get tips. The waiter has constant free time can eat snacks order food for yourself.. the cook is sweating the whole time making less money eating nothing.
From the 90s to today Chuckie Cheese has seen massive improvement, from being the worst pizza you could buy to equal to dominos. I'm not saying it's top tier or anything.chucky cheese has hardly stepped up their pizza unless you mean just 1.5 years ago when i stopped going. round table seems to be the originator of quality imo for pizza. ill take one of those chicken garlic white sauce one anyway of course they most likely are a 40$ pizza? maybe more
wow lots to read but I can guarantee that i made more was a waiter then as a cook and I sweated about 1/10th the amount. Sure lifting those trays would be a hard task if you are a little girl. waiters are always over paid and over complain about their work. The worst thing is the party of 10 with kids stomping on food on the ground everywhere hahaha. Maybe some people need to use mental acuity to remember a menu or order, it didn't seem to be a issue. When you have a background of actual work then being on your feet for 8 hours as a waiter really isn't a issue.Again, a business does take into account if it has part time employees and full time employees as part of the equation when they build in their pricing. Just like they take into account part time cooks and full time cooks. Their managers. Their food costs. Your point made no sense about that. When you eat out at a place that provides healthcare to some staff, you are paying for their healthcare on your bill. Period.
I started bussing tables when I was like 14 in a diner, and after I was 18 I waited in about 9-10 restaurants, from diners to a chain (TGIF) to a couple nice ones in Manhattan. And talked to many waiters, especially in Manhattan, about everybody's different experiences with all their previous experience. I have never been in one or talked to anyone where the waitstaff did almost no work and made all the money.
Everything varies by type of restaurant, but in general nothing you say stands true. You gotta hustle to make money. If it's a cheap diner you are running all your food and the checks are low price points, so you gotta work your ass off to make money. Swing shifts are 10 hours long of which half is spent running around like a maniac juggling a million things. Also you have no food runner there, and often bus your own tables because busboys get swamped. In a chain you usually get a runner, but you need to also run food. You are expected to upsell. You are not making money if you don't do work. You only make money if it's busy, and when it's busy, you work. In a nicer restaurant in Manhattan, that place filled up every night at the 6pm seating and the 8pm seating, and on weekends the 10pm seating too. It was madness in those places. The nicer the place the more you have to know and also upsell and you can't make mistakes. It's a lot of mental acuity and being on your feet. In those places you usually have back waiters, but you can also bring food to tables.
And I have always said to people when I talk about my restaurant experience, is that cooks are underpaid. It's crazy in some of those kitchens what the cooks do every night. I was a back waiter in one place in the city, I always say those guys deserve a good paycheck and healthcare. But that's socialism to a lot of people, including the customer in the OP.
The market determines how much they are paid - funny how you’re having such a hard time grasping that. Are you saying the market is wrong?wow lots to read but I can guarantee that i made more was a waiter then as a cook and I sweated about 1/10th the amount. Sure lifting those trays would be a hard task if you are a little girl. waiters are always over paid and over complain about their work. The worst thing is the party of 10 with kids stomping on food on the ground everywhere hahaha. Maybe some people need to use mental acuity to remember a menu or order, it didn't seem to be a issue. When you have a background of actual work then being on your feet for 8 hours as a waiter really isn't a issue.
you must have been a shit cook.wow lots to read but I can guarantee that i made more was a waiter then as a cook and I sweated about 1/10th the amount. Sure lifting those trays would be a hard task if you are a little girl. waiters are always over paid and over complain about their work. The worst thing is the party of 10 with kids stomping on food on the ground everywhere hahaha. Maybe some people need to use mental acuity to remember a menu or order, it didn't seem to be a issue. When you have a background of actual work then being on your feet for 8 hours as a waiter really isn't a issue.
i didn't say it was like no work. i said that table he waited on was very little work. guess what among other jobs i was a waiter before. i would bring home 300$ in cash everyday and barely broke a sweat. i was 100% thinking i got paid to much for what i did. the biggest issue is how many hours you get, so things like calling off or requesting a day off might change your next weeks schedule too.
This was a kind of spendy place AND he had already agreed to a 20% extra fee for gratuity, THAT'S ENOUGH, let the restaurant or the employee figure out who pays for healthcare.EVERYBODY needs to start charging more and just pay their fuckin employees.
no people who think they are obligated to tip huge amounts are what determines what they are paid. i never felt that i deserved as much tips as i got.The market determines how much they are paid - funny how you’re having such a hard time grasping that. Are you saying the market is wrong?
yea i don't know English well but still made amazing amounts of tips as a waiter does this help prove my point? or somehow prove your point?OP rants about 'skills' but displays none in the way posts are written.
No, that’s not how it works at all.no people who think they are obligated to tip huge amounts are what determines what they are paid. i never felt that i deserved as much tips as i got.
or you could just be lying. My money is on that.yea i don't know English well but still made amazing amounts of tips as a waiter does this help prove my point? or somehow prove your point?
He was probably a cook resentful of the waiters.or you could just be lying. My money is on that.
no people choose to be servers as a inbetween job or they can not gain any further skills. it is 100% determined by the tips which could be from your charm or the establishments great food, most likely wont be because you told them about the perfect wine to pair with the caviar choice.No, that’s not how it works at all.
People choose to be servers based on the expected wages they get, which includes those tips. Servers are rational economic actors, if wages declined they would find other work until the market brought wages back up.
i was a cook resentful of the waiters, then i became a waiter while in school... it worked out and yes it is the owners fault sort of.. i feel most people dont understand the tip process and they truly think the cooks and busboys get some. ( i don't feel like this is often the case, busboys rarely got tips from me as i could not trust them to give me the tip when clearing a table so i would clear the tables also which was the worst part of being a waiter if you dont clean the tables you cant get more people in.He was probably a cook resentful of the waiters.
But I've said it, cooks are underpaid. But that's not the waiters fault, that's the owners fault and a society that places little value on many kinds of hard work. But to say that wages should get higher for those kinds of jobs and they should have healthcare, that call you a socialist.
Conservatives are terrible