Wine bar customer writes expletive on $300 check to protest $6 service charge ... lulz

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TheVrolok

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to understand someone else's point of view means you have to agree and say nothing? or you can say a single word (again i said i would never say socialism or write fuck you on a check) but i do think it is his right. its not a child with virgin eyes working at a wine bar right? yea this is the root of all the problems in the word people being passive aggressive.
So you start with a strawman. Then misrepresent yourself. You didn't say it was his right, I don't think anyone would argue he doesn't have the "right" to say something, you said "he expressed his frustration within normal levels."

You argued its "normal" to write "fuck you" on a check because you're salty. Try to keep your own arguments straight.
 

ch33zw1z

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so even if i was to taste a soup or something i made IT IS NOT THE SAME AS EATING ON TEH CLOCK LIKE A SERVER! its total bs to say cooks eat in the kitchen while they work 100% bs.. the health department would violate you for sure.

btw i dont taste my cooking at the house either, after you make something 1 million times i think needing to taste it is a excuse not like you are making a new recipe you have never tried before.

Cooks don't eat while they work? Lol....what planet are you from.

While I worked in food service I also took OSHA safety training at college. There were so many violations at all the places I was employed for food service, it was crazy. Restaurants were just terrible compliance-wise.

The only place that ever gave a damn was a hospital I worked at for 4 years.
 
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killster1

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Cooks don't eat while they work? Lol....what planet are you from.

While I worked in food service I also took OSHA safety training at college. There were so many violations at all the places I was employed for food service, it was crazy. Restaurants were just terrible compliance-wise.

The only place that ever gave a damn was a hospital I worked at for 4 years.
i think im from a different planet, people didnt wash their hands and had violations but they didnt eat in the kitchen. maybe its a california thing? Being a cook has ruined eating out for me and to hear that among the other things cooks are also eating while cooking.. disgusting..
 
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killster1

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So you start with a strawman. Then misrepresent yourself. You didn't say it was his right, I don't think anyone would argue he doesn't have the "right" to say something, you said "he expressed his frustration within normal levels."

You argued its "normal" to write "fuck you" on a check because you're salty. Try to keep your own arguments straight.
HUHHHHHHHHHHHH From the start i said i have never done it.. i might have said it sounded cool but i haven't done it. i cant even remember if i have had any real issues with a check in my life.. just one place i had a issue with the server putting his fingers in a sandwich to point out it did indeed have avocado, (which it didn't).that was in canada at a place called smitty's so what was i thinking to begin with!
 

MrSquished

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who said i stiff waiters? i barely eat out and when i do i always tip, the size of the tip depends really on 3 things one of them being if i will return visit, the other is what i said before accurate order and checking up on the table.


cash in my pocket from easy suckers who think tipping is a great idea.


You said tipping is a great idea for easy suckers. So are you an easy sucker? I just assumed you weren't calling yourself an easy sucker that tips.


its the business's right to add the charge, it is the costumers right to be upset. you think people should just not say something when they are upset but yet you cant help your self insults personal attacks any time anyone thinks different from you. so why are you such a hypocrite?

Quote me where I said the customer had no right to complain. In fact I agreed I think it's better to build the prices into the menu vs add fees. However there are ways to complain without writing F you on a check, and you are defending his personal attacks on the staff but mad that I call them out for them. What a hypocrite you are.

he said one word Socialism.. that will set you into a rage ? maybe you are the problem then so angry at a single word.

Yes. using the now go to catch phrase to bitch about everything for conservatives as it is 'socialism' rightfully pisses me off. It shows how utterly ignorant they are they call everything and anything they don't like as socialism. This has nothing to do with socialism. So if you are calling me out for being mad at how totally insanely ignorant a whole segment of our society has become, I'll take that.
 

killster1

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You said tipping is a great idea for easy suckers. So are you an easy sucker? I just assumed you weren't calling yourself an easy sucker that tips.




Quote me where I said the customer had no right to complain. In fact I agreed I think it's better to build the prices into the menu vs add fees. However there are ways to complain without writing F you on a check, and you are defending his personal attacks on the staff but mad that I call them out for them. What a hypocrite you are.



Yes. using the now go to catch phrase to bitch about everything for conservatives as it is 'socialism' rightfully pisses me off. It shows how utterly ignorant they are they call everything and anything they don't like as socialism. This has nothing to do with socialism. So if you are calling me out for being mad at how totally insanely ignorant a whole segment of our society has become, I'll take that.
this very well could be the first time the guy has used it in his life, yet you seem to know they go around saying everything is such. I dont give extreme tips no. i am not a sucker for crazy tips
 

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How is this point still under dispute? It’s weird to add surcharges like that to a check instead of folding them into your overall prices. That being said, the customer’s reaction to such a small charge that he didn’t even have to pay was insane. Normal people do not behave this way.
 

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so even if i was to taste a soup or something i made IT IS NOT THE SAME AS EATING ON TEH CLOCK LIKE A SERVER! its total bs to say cooks eat in the kitchen while they work 100% bs.. the health department would violate you for sure.

btw i dont taste my cooking at the house either, after you make something 1 million times i think needing to taste it is a excuse not like you are making a new recipe you have never tried before.
Please, keep showing everyone that you are just a self entitled cry baby, who knows nothing about the restaurant business.

The only way the health department could give you a violation is if you had a sandwich in one hand shoving it in your mouth, as you where cooking with the other hand, or stepping a few feet off the line, away from where you are actually preparing the food, having a bite of your meal on a plate, and NEVER washing your hands/changing gloves before you step back onto the line. Next you are going to try and tell us that you where not allowed to drink water/soda, or have a glass of water/soda in the kitchen to drink because you know, it's a health violation... even though it's not (beverages can actually be sitting on the line with you, as long as it has a cover). The only stipulation is the food cannot be where you are preparing meals/prepping food for others, aka not on the cutting board or counter where you are making the food, but it can be on a separate table, or a shelf not where you are actually preparing food for others. But it can be in the kitchen, and you can eat it as long as you follow proper sanitation and hygiene protocols. All you are doing is reaching for some morsal that supports your bullshit, and failing miserably at it.


You have been cooking the same meal at home, every damn day for 2740 years? Are you human? Are you just a one trick pony? Doesn't eating the same thing every day get old? Doesn't your family get tired of eating the same thing every day?

Seriously though, I know your response was just trying to pull something out your ass to defend your stupidity. But all you have done is demonstrated you don't' care what your food taste like, you don't care what you feed your family, you don't care or take any pride in your cooking be it at home or when you cooked in a restaurant. Repetition doesn't mean quality, or that it always taste good, or as expected. I cook for my family all the time (currently it's only my son and I), and I taste everything I prepare before I let my family or anyone taste it, because I take pride in my cooking, and I also know the ingredients themselves fluctuate in taste/quality, even from the same brand/supplier/store. I want to ensure that the meal they get meets my personal taste and quality standards because again, I take pride in my cooking.

All you have shown is you have zero pride in what you do, zero integrity, and you are a poor me cry baby.

I think we have spent enough time down this rabbit hole..
 
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MrSquished

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this very well could be the first time the guy has used it in his life, yet you seem to know they go around saying everything is such. I dont give extreme tips no. i am not a sucker for crazy tips
You didn't criticize great tips. You said tipping is for suckers.

Everybody has seen what a dbag you are in this thread. I mean c'mon.

Own your shittiness.

You are that guy.

You've always been the shitty kind of conservative. And now we know it even applies to your feelings on the food business. It's great.
 
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killster1

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You didn't criticize great tips. You said tipping is for suckers.

Everybody has seen what a dbag you are in this thread. I mean c'mon.

Own your shittiness.

You are that guy.

You've always been the shitty kind of conservative. And now we know it even applies to your feelings on the food business. It's great.
yea.. the word HUGE or massive tips should have been used as i have said over and over that i do leave decent tips 99% of the time, but 20$ for two people with one refill would be often what i got
 

ch33zw1z

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i think im from a different planet, people didnt wash their hands and had violations but they didnt eat in the kitchen. maybe its a california thing? Being a cook has ruined eating out for me and to hear that among the other things cooks are also eating while cooking.. disgusting..

We agree here. Working in a restaurant made eating out challenging. Fast forward a few years and I had gotten a gig supporting POS tech. I got to visit quite a few different restaurants and gained inside info about which ones were probably safer, and which were no-go. Now we almost never go anywhere.

This is one area that fast food has an advantage. They build the place small and open, so you can see darn near everything and everyone there.
 

ch33zw1z

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How is this point still under dispute? It’s weird to add surcharges like that to a check instead of folding them into your overall prices. That being said, the customer’s reaction to such a small charge that he didn’t even have to pay was insane. Normal people do not behave this way.

I would offer that this behavior can be the norm in the service industry. I've seen some pretty terrible people in food service and retail. It's not uncommon at all, they take that "customer is always" right and just run with it.
 

killster1

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I'm finding it hard to believe you ever held any of your reported jobs when you're clearly 12 years old.
glad your not my waiter with those skills.. what's funny is you can insult all day on the internet with anyone that has a different point of view than you, but the second someone writes it on a check Oh there a douch a asshole a dick a prick etc etc.. what's that make all of you, who cant make one sentence with out cursing and insulting everyone?

Guess only your point of view is OK and its only OK for you and your goons to curse and act like monkeys hopping up and down mad right.
 

MrSquished

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I've never been a cook but as a waiter and once as a back waiter, I did not witness cooks, or wait staff, do anything purposely to mess with food. I know it happens places, just never saw it. People really just busting their asses to work busy seatings.

However I would guarantee that in the summer if you eat out at a place with a small hot and crowded kitchen, chances are you've had some sweat on a dish or two.
 
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TheVrolok

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glad your not my waiter with those skills.. what's funny is you can insult all day on the internet with anyone that has a different point of view than you, but the second someone writes it on a check Oh there a douch a asshole a dick a prick etc etc.. what's that make all of you, who cant make one sentence with out cursing and insulting everyone?

Guess only your point of view is OK and its only OK for you and your goons to curse and act like monkeys hopping up and down mad right.

Dude. Do you even hear yourself? Insulting someone on the internet is bad manners, but writing "fuck you" on a check is normal, maybe even "cool?"

Do you lack so much self awareness that you fail to see that you're refuting your own point?
 

killster1

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Dude. Do you even hear yourself? Insulting someone on the internet is bad manners, but writing "fuck you" on a check is normal, maybe even "cool?"

Do you lack so much self awareness that you fail to see that you're refuting your own point?
did you see me write any insults to anyone on this forum? if so please point them out. the closest thing is my last post saying you are acting like a money jumping up and down. words are words right.. its only ok if the person doesn't see your face? is that how you justify it? i really dont care about any of this, i just have my opinion and you have yours but your opinion doesn't force me to act crazy and say the f word and that you are a asshole because you feel different then me. but for some reason thats what you are doing while saying someone else that writes fuck you is so off base
 

TheVrolok

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did you see me write any insults to anyone on this forum? if so please point them out. the closest thing is my last post saying you are acting like a money jumping up and down. words are words right.. its only ok if the person doesn't see your face? is that how you justify it? i really dont care about any of this, i just have my opinion and you have yours but your opinion doesn't force me to act crazy and say the f word and that you are a asshole because you feel different then me. but for some reason thats what you are doing while saying someone else that writes fuck you is so off base
I'm simply talking about your argument. Do you, or do you not, realize that you refuted your own argument?
 
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killster1

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I'm simply talking about your argument. Do you, or do you not, realize that you refuted your own argument?
so you cant point out even one post of me insulting attacking like you and your friends do ON EVERY SINGLE THREAD? you are not my customer so its not the same argument anyway.
 

manly

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Dude. Do you even hear yourself? Insulting someone on the internet is bad manners, but writing "fuck you" on a check is normal, maybe even "cool?"

Do you lack so much self awareness that you fail to see that you're refuting your own point?
This is a rhetorical question.
 

MrSquished

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Dude. Do you even hear yourself? Insulting someone on the internet is bad manners, but writing "fuck you" on a check is normal, maybe even "cool?"

Do you lack so much self awareness that you fail to see that you're refuting your own point?
Conservatives typically lack any self awareness, yes. Because being hypocrites is their life
 
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TheVrolok

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so you cant point out even one post of me insulting attacking like you and your friends do ON EVERY SINGLE THREAD? you are not my customer so its not the same argument anyway.
Why are you changing the topic? I'll just take it as a refusal to answer the simple question I asked.
 

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I don't like hidden charges, but I will pay for the meal and often tip nicely if the service is good, especially if it is one of my favorite places.
 
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killster1

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Why are you changing the topic? I'll just take it as a refusal to answer the simple question I asked.
i did answer you, i said im not a customer so its not the same argument but i guess you intentionally didnt read it so you can make my point that all you are is a hypocrite, you can insult all day but the second a paying customer does it .. WOW WHAT A ASSHOLE HE IS!!! hahahaha
 
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