only shit comes from your mouth, no wonder you complain all the time pure shit taste, i would be mad at life too and wouldnt be able to help myself insulting everyone and then telling others that if they say the word fuck you on a check they are a douche.. hahahahahhaHe just aggressively went on to prove the point I first made, demonstrating incredibly low EQ.
you cant answer the simple question i asked? easier just to continue to attack right? hahahWhy are you changing the topic? I'll just take it as a refusal to answer the simple question I asked.
Please, keep showing everyone that you are just a self entitled cry baby, who knows nothing about the restaurant business.
You just triple quoted me and are essentially foaming at the mouth.you cant answer the simple question i asked? easier just to continue to attack right? hahah
God dammit What? How did you translate "he doesn't know anything about the restaurant business" to mean "he never worked in a restaurant"?Now God dammit hold it right there. You think he's never worked in a restaurant? What?
Next you will tell me he has never Hiked in Texas.
I sure didn't read itSure, but again, did you read the article?
" It also included 20 percent for service and an additional 2 percent “health and wellness” surcharge to cover health insurance for Apéro’s staff."
And my reply was "Can you please show me multiple receipts where "healthcare" is listed as a line item for what you are paying? I've never been to a restaurant where I'm paying for "healthcare" for their employees."
That's fine if they know how to run a business and price their product to cover the cost of staff, wages, healthcare, raw materials and such, but I've never seen a place charge for healthcare on a bill at a restaurant.
You don't buy most items and they charge you for their healthcare as a line item. So you didn't really dispute anything I said.
Did you quote the wrong person or not read what you quoted?I sure didn't read it
You responded to someone who said "Every time you patronize a business, you are paying for someone's healthcare" and it sounded a lot like you were trying to dispute that, solely because there wasn't a line item on your bills.
Yeah, I read what I quoted. I'm not disputing that you've never seen it at a restaurant. I think it's a stupid policy. I thought your post came off like you were disputing that you were paying for healthcare when you patronized a business because there was no line item, and I thought that was silly, because you clearly are. If you weren't disputing it, that's fine, I don't really care about anything else.Did you quote the wrong person or not read what you quoted?
I also said "That's fine if they know how to run a business and price their product to cover the cost of staff, wages, healthcare, raw materials and such, but I've never seen a place charge for healthcare on a bill at a restaurant."
Not disputing if a restaurant choose to provide healthcare that the cost isn't ultimately passed on to the customers (duh, it is for every company), but I can't think of a single business where I buy an item and the receipt has a line item for "employee healthcare". What is the point of listing that on a bill for a meal?
Not to mention they are also forcing you to pay 20% for service? What if the service is absolutely horrible? They still are going to request you to pay for the service.
The US should just do away with tips as a socially-expected payment and make the default be 0% tip, THEN you add a tip if the service was special. Employers should just pay above minimum wage then fire bad servers.
Far more than tips, I'm extremely against hidden fees, even if it is on a sign somewhere that nobody can see because it's a crowed area with dim lights and you're minding your own business, not trying to read every plaque or poster on a wall that you can't even get to without asking everyone else to move out of your way.
It's trying to be deceptive to add such a fee when it isn't industry standard and even when it's a standard it stinks, is just a cost of doing business. When I eat at McDonalds I don't expect a soap dispenser, light bulb, and mop the floor surcharge either. Cost of doing business.
It's total BS, trying to take some social manipulation angle to sneak in extra profit, and even more offensive to me that a business decides to make policies like this, than the inevitable "f-this" when a customer sees them doing it.
It's not a big leap to call it stealing, sneaking in a hidden fee then it's a big hassle in one way or another to not accept it. I'd far rather someone wrote "f-you" than stole from me. I consider it far more acceptable for every single customer to write "f-you" on their check, than for every customer to be charged this fee. Customers need to stand up for what is right, not bend over for nonsense in order to be "polite". It's time to stop being polite when someone has schemed to cheat you. The prices are the prices, no more, no less.
Should've just been 2% higher prices to cover the $6 and no games. Plus I can't help but think the "f-you" may have been as much about the facial expressions and/or attitude about removing the fee. I'm sure the server claims they were extra special doubleplus nice about it, but if they were so nice, they wouldn't have supported/facilitated doing it in the first place.
San Francisco is kind of its own thing, but I recall a few years ago some restaurants started tacking on a "health insurance" surcharge on bills and it did raise some eyebrows.Yeah, I read what I quoted. I'm not disputing that you've never seen it at a restaurant. I think it's a stupid policy. I thought your post came off like you were disputing that you were paying for healthcare when you patronized a business because there was no line item, and I thought that was silly, because you clearly are. If you weren't disputing it, that's fine, I don't really care about anything else.
I remember back when UPS/FedEx started adding a fuel surcharge after post 9/11 price increases, and never went awaySan Francisco is kind of its own thing, but I recall a few years ago some restaurants started tacking on a "health insurance" surcharge on bills and it did raise some eyebrows.
IIRC in summer 2020 when Las Vegas reopened, a few restaurants on the Strip quietly added a COVID surcharge to bills. This led to some customer push back, and staff were directed to remove the fee upon request.
I don't know if either of these surcharges continued to now. I think most of us in this thread would prefer a non-standard fee to be built into menu prices, but also don't condone the customer being an asshole about it. A mandatory service charge for large parties is fairly standard in many places, and I don't have a big problem with that. Presumably if your service sucked ass, you can talk to the manager and he would work with you.
God dammit What? How did you translate "he doesn't know anything about the restaurant business" to mean "he never worked in a restaurant"?
By his own comments, he has demonstrated he doesn't know anything about the restaurant business, because everything he has said is pure bullshit! Which is why he had to ask what skills a server has, yet he supposably was a server.. Second, anyone can take a job and be a body going thru the motions, earning a paycheck and still not understand or know anything about the business. For one to actually know anything about a business, one has to have the desire to learn and want to understand how the business works, which starts with taking pride in the job, and having respect for the job itself. His attitude towards restaurant workers, and his attitude in general towards the job they do, has demonstrated he had no desire to learn the business, didn't take pride in what he did, and sure as hell didn't/doesn't have any respect for it. Which means he was there as a body, going thru the motions to gain a paycheck, and didn't learn a damn thing about the industry.
I have no idea if he has hiked in Texas or not. If he has, it doesn't mean he knows anything about hiking. There are hundreds of thousands of people who go thru the motions of doing an activity that don't know the first damn thing about the activity they are doing., even if they have been doing it for months. Hell, I can go hiking and it wouldn't equate to me knowing a damn thing about hiking.
I'm sorry, was my response to your bullshit accusation over your head? Or is that the sound the vacuum between your ears makes, when ever you try to think?WHOoooossshhh......
I'm sorry, was my response to your bullshit accusation over your head? Or is that the sound the vacuum between your ears makes, when ever you try to think?
I'm way to emotion, and throwing a tantrum to understand your post which started out with "wait a god damn minute" and then makes a false accusation, which I asked you how you came to that conclusion in my response? Then you get all butt hurt from my response to your Whooosh! So much you tell me to GFY! LOL! maybe someone (you) needs to learn how to use the /S tag rather than get all butt hurt over it. Because it came across much different.Wooooossshhhhh You are WAY to emotional to actually understand the nuance of my post. GFY Not even going to try and explain it to you or entertain your repeated tantrums. Won't see your highly emotional reply. You can sit with killster in time out.
Soon you'll need a CPA to figure out the bill. Just tell me the cost of item and provide insurance to employees.
some people are going to feel to awkward to want to bring up not wanting to pay for someone's health care. Then maybe someone like me that i have to be put in that situation to begin with!
But when they buy any other product or service, it's paying for that company's employees that get healthcare. Usually the white collar employees.. But they are ok with that. But God forbid a lower skill worker gets healthcare, it really pisses off the conservative party of family values.Yep...this is what it always comes down to.....the old "I don't want to pay for their (insert the group despised) healthcare!" canard, made without a shred of insight.