Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
IMO, stay in the ~$20 bottle area until you further develop your appreciation. The value in the more expensive wines is usually in the form of three things:
1) Complexity. More expensive wines are generally more complex, and without sufficient tasting experience you're likely to miss it entirely.
2) Ratings. There are only a handful of professional tasters that essentially dictate the market in wines (Laube, Tanzer, Parker, Suckling and a few others). If they give a wine a 100 point rating you can almost guarantee that $30 bottle will soon see $200, and in a few years probably many hundreds if not thousands. If you stick to wines rated ~88-92 you're likely to find some incredible bargains, and if the first issue I described (complexity) doesn't hit you you're just wasting your money on 95+ point bottles anyway.
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
IMO, just go wild and try some new things. Don't worry about labels, regions, or anything else. Find a $5, 10, 15, 20, 25 bottle and drink them (not on the same day). You'll quickly develop your palate so that you can discern a difference in quality, and you'll begin to develop an appreciation for increased complexity.
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
IMO, stay in the ~$20 bottle area until you further develop your appreciation. The value in the more expensive wines is usually in the form of three things:
1) Complexity. More expensive wines are generally more complex, and without sufficient tasting experience you're likely to miss it entirely.
2) Ratings. There are only a handful of professional tasters that essentially dictate the market in wines (Laube, Tanzer, Parker, Suckling and a few others). If they give a wine a 100 point rating you can almost guarantee that $30 bottle will soon see $200, and in a few years probably many hundreds if not thousands. If you stick to wines rated ~88-92 you're likely to find some incredible bargains, and if the first issue I described (complexity) doesn't hit you you're just wasting your money on 95+ point bottles anyway.
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
IMO, just go wild and try some new things. Don't worry about labels, regions, or anything else. Find a $5, 10, 15, 20, 25 bottle and drink them (not on the same day). You'll quickly develop your palate so that you can discern a difference in quality, and you'll begin to develop an appreciation for increased complexity.
Originally posted by: MIKEMIKE
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
IMO, stay in the ~$20 bottle area until you further develop your appreciation. The value in the more expensive wines is usually in the form of three things:
1) Complexity. More expensive wines are generally more complex, and without sufficient tasting experience you're likely to miss it entirely.
2) Ratings. There are only a handful of professional tasters that essentially dictate the market in wines (Laube, Tanzer, Parker, Suckling and a few others). If they give a wine a 100 point rating you can almost guarantee that $30 bottle will soon see $200, and in a few years probably many hundreds if not thousands. If you stick to wines rated ~88-92 you're likely to find some incredible bargains, and if the first issue I described (complexity) doesn't hit you you're just wasting your money on 95+ point bottles anyway.
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
IMO, just go wild and try some new things. Don't worry about labels, regions, or anything else. Find a $5, 10, 15, 20, 25 bottle and drink them (not on the same day). You'll quickly develop your palate so that you can discern a difference in quality, and you'll begin to develop an appreciation for increased complexity.
we are finally doing wine samplings at work.
last night my favorite was the Chateau Ste Michelle Reisling.
Honig Sauvignon blanc is meh but not bad.
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
IMO, stay in the ~$20 bottle area until you further develop your appreciation. The value in the more expensive wines is usually in the form of three things:
1) Complexity. More expensive wines are generally more complex, and without sufficient tasting experience you're likely to miss it entirely.
2) Ratings. There are only a handful of professional tasters that essentially dictate the market in wines (Laube, Tanzer, Parker, Suckling and a few others). If they give a wine a 100 point rating you can almost guarantee that $30 bottle will soon see $200, and in a few years probably many hundreds if not thousands. If you stick to wines rated ~88-92 you're likely to find some incredible bargains, and if the first issue I described (complexity) doesn't hit you you're just wasting your money on 95+ point bottles anyway.
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
IMO, just go wild and try some new things. Don't worry about labels, regions, or anything else. Find a $5, 10, 15, 20, 25 bottle and drink them (not on the same day). You'll quickly develop your palate so that you can discern a difference in quality, and you'll begin to develop an appreciation for increased complexity.
i know you have a vast knowledge of wines ..please point me to some forums or sites that introduce newbs to this world
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
Originally posted by: Descartes
Originally posted by: BooGiMaN
what sites are recommended for newb wine drinkers...i see costco has a large selection of wines....with a large price vaiation as well...soem as low as 6 bucks and soem as high as 65 a bottle..been tempted to try some but i know nothing about wines
IMO, stay in the ~$20 bottle area until you further develop your appreciation. The value in the more expensive wines is usually in the form of three things:
1) Complexity. More expensive wines are generally more complex, and without sufficient tasting experience you're likely to miss it entirely.
2) Ratings. There are only a handful of professional tasters that essentially dictate the market in wines (Laube, Tanzer, Parker, Suckling and a few others). If they give a wine a 100 point rating you can almost guarantee that $30 bottle will soon see $200, and in a few years probably many hundreds if not thousands. If you stick to wines rated ~88-92 you're likely to find some incredible bargains, and if the first issue I described (complexity) doesn't hit you you're just wasting your money on 95+ point bottles anyway.
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
IMO, just go wild and try some new things. Don't worry about labels, regions, or anything else. Find a $5, 10, 15, 20, 25 bottle and drink them (not on the same day). You'll quickly develop your palate so that you can discern a difference in quality, and you'll begin to develop an appreciation for increased complexity.
i know you have a vast knowledge of wines ..please point me to some forums or sites that introduce newbs to this world
IMO, I'd avoid the forums. It's usually a bunch of people arguing about why their preferences are best.
There's no substitute for tasting. The more you drink the more you learn. Really pay attention to what you're drinking and describe every facet of it in terms of taste, sensation, etc.
I've read probably 2 or 3 dozen books on wine, but it's always the tastings where I learn the most. That said, this book is probably the best coverage of the regions, varietals, etc. that you can find.
If you want to spelunk into the darkness of wine snobbery, these are some good forums:
Winodepot
Wine Spectator
Wine Therapy
Wine Advocate
Originally posted by: Descartes
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
Originally posted by: Chunkee
MadDog 20/20
Originally posted by: Triumph
Originally posted by: Descartes
3) Low supply. Keep in mind that some of the best wines in the world produce little more than you could do in your garage. We're talking a few thousand cases for the entire world. This pushes some of these bottles into the thousands of dollars, and they're not always exceptional.
Heard a quip on NPR about French wines this year. Certain vineyards put such a high importance on their namesake that when they are having a good year with a high yield and yet the wine isn't moving off the shelves, either the French government itself will buy it from them, or they'll simply dump it down the drains, rather than put it on sale. That would be beneath them.