Kevin Packingham: The two parts of the company, they’re extremely isolated. There are times when I’m absolutely appalled that we sell what I consider to be the most innovative, most secret parts of the sauce of our products to some other manufacturer — HTC, LG, Apple, anybody. And they [the components groups] are like, ‘Look, that’s none of your business. You go make your mobile phones and if you’d like to use our components, that’d be great.’
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In some cases, for most of us in the industry, it’s defying common sense. We’re all scratching our heads and saying, “How is this possible that we’re actually having an industry-level debate and trying to stifle competition?” Consumers want rectangles and we’re fighting over whether you can deliver a product in the shape of a rectangle.
http://www.wired.com/gadgetlab/2012/07/samsung-chief-product-officer-q-and-a/
It's nice to hear a little more from the company than the typical PR spiel. My favorite parts:
Rectangles were invented by Steve Jobs.
It sounds like most companies had a gentleman's agreement about how to make the patent system work fairly. Then patent troll extraordinaire Apple comes along:As for rectangles, I agree with him but Apple is just playing the system. Jobs learned and saw they could patent all these ridiculous things so they started early on to patent so not to repeat the Mac mistake. It's utter BS but Apple didn't make the rules.
Packingham: In the current environment, theres just one company thats firing the first shot consistently. Most everybody else seems to be getting along really well. There are a few areas where there has been some contention recently, but if you look at those areas of contention, they were legitimate and people were able to come to terms, business terms, that were reasonable. Thats the way the system should work.
Sounds like typical PR piece to me. Samsung sells commodity components to their competitors. It's stuff companies could get elsewhere if Samsung refused. It's not some secret high tech special sauce. It's commodity. The high tech special sauce stuff, Samsung does keep to itself for short period. Top of the line S-AMOLED and Exynos/Mali are not sold their competitors. Only about year later do Samsung make these available to others. By then Samsung has new top of the line S-AMOLED and Exynos/Mali and it's exclusive to Samsung products.
As for rectangles, I agree with him but Apple is just playing the system. Jobs learned and saw they could patent all these ridiculous things so they started early on to patent so not to repeat the Mac mistake. It's utter BS but Apple didn't make the rules.
Then patent troll extraordinaire Apple comes along:
It's.... not a commodity. That word doesn't mean what you think it means. If Apple could get it anywhere, then they would have absolutely no reason to get it from Samsung.
Is it me, or has this subforum turned into the politics and news of electronics?
Is it me, or has this subforum turned into the politics and news of electronics?
What an idiot. He apparently has no understanding of design patents (or is at least being willfully ignorant for PR purposes), but worse still is whining about another division of his own company without actually doing anything constructive about it. If he really believes that Samsung shouldn't be selling components to other companies he should present his case to his bosses and show that it makes more financial sense for Samsung to only supply themselves. Most company's wouldn't tolerate behavior from a mid-level guy calling out the company like that.
As Inigo Montoya would say, "You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means."
Please explain how Apple is a patent troll when they actually produce products based on the patents that they have.
Is it me, or has this subforum turned into the politics and news of electronics?
Is it me, or has this subforum turned into the politics and news of electronics?
Do you honestly believe he was just shooting from the hip with that comment? We're talking about the giants of the industry here. No one is going to call out their company especially the size of Samsung. If you ask me everything he said was probably deliberate and rehearsed beforehand.
This is obviously a PR piece.
What company has a rehearsed PR bit that makes another part of their company look incompetent? I'd agree with you about playing off the design patent part, but other part can't have been deliberate.
That would be like an executive at Microsoft in the Xbox division calling the Office department idiots for something they did or pointing out something unfaltering about them. It makes the company look bad and smacks of petty internal politics. At the very least it's unprofessional.
Sounds like typical PR piece to me. Samsung sells commodity components to their competitors. It's stuff companies could get elsewhere if Samsung refused. It's not some secret high tech special sauce. It's commodity. The high tech special sauce stuff, Samsung does keep to itself for short period. Top of the line S-AMOLED and Exynos/Mali are not sold their competitors. Only about year later do Samsung make these available to others. By then Samsung has new top of the line S-AMOLED and Exynos/Mali and it's exclusive to Samsung products.
As for rectangles, I agree with him but Apple is just playing the system. Jobs learned and saw they could patent all these ridiculous things so they started early on to patent so not to repeat the Mac mistake. It's utter BS but Apple didn't make the rules.
Sony invented the rectangle...
with rounded corners.
Samsung had it's own 'prior art' examples that were created before the iPhone was released: http://www.osnews.com/story/26230/Samsung_reveals_its_pre-iPhone_concepts_10_touchscreen
People who want to hate on Apple always break this down into rectangles and squares. But we've been over this hundreds of times.
there's lots of comparisons like TouchWiz and iPhone UI. that's what's being discussed, not freaking rectangles.
You mean the pictures where the iPhone is shown with the homescreen, and the Galaxy Phone is shown with the app drawer open?
People who want to hate on Apple always break this down into rectangles and squares. But we've been over this hundreds of times.
there's lots of comparisons like TouchWiz and iPhone UI. that's what's being discussed, not freaking rectangles.