Wireless charging is not a gimmick.

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Raduque

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The wireless charging on my S6 is a great tradeoff for the removable battery. I won't buy another phone without it.

It's also the reason I still wear a Motorola 360.
 

PowerYoga

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Have a note 4, have wireless charging. Removable batteries are not mutually exclusive to wireless charging and I still will not buy a droid phone without it.
 

zerogear

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Yep, after having it it's hard to go back to not using. It's great to have a dock on the nightstand and just plop the phone down as go to bed. No wires or things to mess with. It's also pretty amazing at how forgiving the charge is. I've got this case on my G4: http://www.amazon.com/dp/B00VXQI0MK?psc=1

I can set the phone down on the charger even in that case and it will still charge. Crazy.

my question is does your nfc work through that case?
 

Obsy

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Apparently Google thinks it's a gimmick and didn't bother to implement it in either the 5X or the 6P.
 

Midwayman

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Apparently Google thinks it's a gimmick and didn't bother to implement it in either the 5X or the 6P.

Same with Apple. However I'm sure its about them being obsessed with fractions of a MM in thickness. I put a Qi receiver inside my case and its nice.
 

lopri

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That and the metal casing of the 6P is not friendly to wireless charging. I do not think wireless charging is a gimmick at all, btw. If nothing else it serves as an extra means of charging when the wire port is broken. I find it convenient in everyday use.
 

shabby

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Apparently Google thinks it's a gimmick and didn't bother to implement it in either the 5X or the 6P.

Since they couldn't implement it in the 6p since it had a metal back i think would be kinda dumb for only the 5x to have wireless charging, so they ditched it for the 5x too.
 

WelshBloke

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Since they couldn't implement it in the 6p since it had a metal back i think would be kinda dumb for only the 5x to have wireless charging, so they ditched it for the 5x too.
Why would it be dumb to have it in the 5x and not the 6p? (seriously these names are getting dumb )
 

Obsy

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That and the metal casing of the 6P is not friendly to wireless charging. I do not think wireless charging is a gimmick at all, btw. If nothing else it serves as an extra means of charging when the wire port is broken. I find it convenient in everyday use.
True, but it still means that they forfeited wireless charging for a full metal build. And because they don't want the 5X to one-up the 6P in any way, they also had to give it up for the 5X. That's a pretty big decision to make. I'm hoping they went full metal this year for the shock factor, and that they'll go back to wireless charging in 2016 with a partial metal build akin to the Note 4 or Lumia 930.

But in 2014 Google's stance on wireless charging was already wavering: they didn't bother to implement it in the Nexus 9.

Since they couldn't implement it in the 6p since it had a metal back i think would be kinda dumb for only the 5x to have wireless charging, so they ditched it for the 5x too.
I see your point. But I still think it's dumber to take away wireless charging for a phone that's meant to fan service the Nexus 5 users. I know "take away" is technically the wrong term since the 5X didn't have it to start with, but that's how it feels to some of the Nexus 4/5/6/7 users who've invested in that standard.
 

Spineshank

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I don't think its a gimmick. However, by the end of the day I am down to roughly 40% battery life. I charge my phone every night. So it's not really something I would use regardless, except at night of course. Is it cool? yes. But I don't need it. But I can see most phones having it by this time next year and expect the next iPhone will have it.
 

Riverhound777

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I would love to use wireless charging, but it doesn't work for shit on my S6 Edge+. It stops charging after a few seconds or minutes. Took it back to the store, got several different chargers, same thing (guy at the store even confirmed it). Something wrong with my phone, widely known issue, very annoying. I gave up and just plug it in.
 

Ackmed

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You can have both you know.... wired when you want, wireless when you want. Best of both worlds.
 

RGUN

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I've been using my 5X for a few days and while I'm generally happy with the phone, coming from a Nexus 4 and 5 I'm really unhappy with the charging arrangement. I'm genuinely considering selling the 5X and getting something with Qi charging. I knew I preferred Qi charging, but seeing the 5X sit on a table with the cord vs my SO's Nexus 5 on the wireless charger, it is inconvenient and looks terrible.
 

Raduque

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The wireless charging on my S6 is a great tradeoff for the removable battery. I won't buy another phone without it.

It's also the reason I still wear a Motorola 360.

I ditched my S6 and went back to Note 4. Just too many problems with it. I've got a wireless charging sticker and extra battery cover on order to add wireless charging to my Note 4.

Now this I'd like. A totally sealed phone with no need of any physical ports at all. (You'd need a service port for when things go tits up but that could be hidden away with the sim slot and SDcard)

Until that point I'll stick with USB charging.

I don't think we'll have fully-sealed phones till they can re-use SIM card numbers - then they can build the SIM card INTO the phone and have it non-removable, along with the battery and no uSD slot.
 

gorcorps

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Same with Apple. However I'm sure its about them being obsessed with fractions of a MM in thickness. I put a Qi receiver inside my case and its nice.

The only reason Apple doesn't have it yet is they need to figure out a way to make it proprietary... I'm guessing an NFC like chip in Apple's charging pads to send the phone into a "charging mode" which then works. Any pad without this chip won't work.

I think Apple will get into wireless charging, but something will be different enough to make it iPhone specific.
 

Raduque

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The only reason Apple doesn't have it yet is they need to figure out a way to make it proprietary... I'm guessing an NFC like chip in Apple's charging pads to send the phone into a "charging mode" which then works. Any pad without this chip won't work.

I think Apple will get into wireless charging, but something will be different enough to make it iPhone specific.

That, or they are actively developing their own wireless charging tech that is physically incompatible with Qi. Maybe something faster charging or something that can give a larger field. Your idea is also likely and definitely "Apple", though all it would take is one competitor buying the devices and seeing what goes between them - unless they are able to encrypt the link somehow.

I think it's also likely they haven't done wireless charging because there's no easy way to wirelessly charge an iPad without a ginormous charging pad. I'm actually a little surprised Apple hasn't done wireless charging on the iPhones though. It's a very "It just works/Apple" type of tech.
 

cronos

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I don't think we'll have fully-sealed phones till they can re-use SIM card numbers - then they can build the SIM card INTO the phone and have it non-removable, along with the battery and no uSD slot.

But that sounds just like.... the old fashion CDMA system that we in the US *finally* caught up with the world and got rid of (though not completely)

Refresh my memory here, but I believe just a few months ago there were rumors about a phone (was it about the iPhone? can't remember) being shipped with a unique, reusable SIM card that is only supported by the major carriers. The phone will only accept that particular SIM card. You could switch your provider without switching SIM card, but this only works between the supported carriers. I don' t know about everyone else, but I think this is a logistical nightmare. If I own a phone, I want to use it without restriction.
 

sm625

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Not sure where that came from.

Even toothbrushes have been doing that a long time.

You only use a toothbrush in one general location. It gets expensive and basically just plain stupid to set up wireless charging in every location that you use your phone often.
 

Red Storm

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Apparently Google thinks it's a gimmick and didn't bother to implement it in either the 5X or the 6P.

If Google thought it was a gimmick Android wouldn't support it at all. They don't think mSD is a gimmick, it's just something they don't feel is necessary in Nexus devices. Likewise, they must feel that wireless charging is not necessary.

I somewhat agree with Google as well. When fast wireless charging becomes common place everywhere then I'll consider it a must have, but for now it's just a nice extra feature.
 

Raduque

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But that sounds just like.... the old fashion CDMA system that we in the US *finally* caught up with the world and got rid of (though not completely)

Refresh my memory here, but I believe just a few months ago there were rumors about a phone (was it about the iPhone? can't remember) being shipped with a unique, reusable SIM card that is only supported by the major carriers. The phone will only accept that particular SIM card. You could switch your provider without switching SIM card, but this only works between the supported carriers. I don' t know about everyone else, but I think this is a logistical nightmare. If I own a phone, I want to use it without restriction.

I do remember that rumor. It was a long time ago though, cause I think it was for the iPhone 4, IIRC.

If Google thought it was a gimmick Android wouldn't support it at all. They don't think mSD is a gimmick, it's just something they don't feel is necessary in Nexus devices. Likewise, they must feel that wireless charging is not necessary.

I somewhat agree with Google as well. When fast wireless charging becomes common place everywhere then I'll consider it a must have, but for now it's just a nice extra feature.

I honestly disagree completely with Google on both counts.Nexus devices are supposed to be the definitive Android device, the benchmark. Why set the bar so low with no wireless charging, non-removable batteries and no expendable storage? Batteries (especially lithium ion) die and almost everybody in the US has a data cap - usually with a cost prohibitive overage charge.
 
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Red Storm

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I do remember that rumor. It was a long time ago though, cause I think it was for the iPhone 4, IIRC.



I honestly disagree completely with Google on both counts.Nexus devices are supposed to be the definitive Android device, the benchmark. Why set the bar so low with no wireless charging, non-removable batteries and no expendable storage? Batteries (especially lithium ion) die and almost everybody in the US has a data cap - usually with a cost prohibitive overage charge.

But that's because you're judging based on those three things, none of which I personally consider essential. Great to have, sure, but not essential. If you consider them essential, then there are phones out there that cater to your needs. The Nexus caters to my needs better than those other phones.
 
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