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22Admub

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I own a motel, and I'm looking to offer broadband internet access for our customers. I don't want to have to send wires to 22 rooms, so I'm gonna go with wireless. I have a few questions.

All the rooms are on the ground floor all on one long path. The only place I can put the router is in a room that is next to the first room(unless it's plausible to put it in the attic where the temps can reach 120F+). This room has a window that looks down the long path on which the rooms are located. The router needs to reach AT LEAST around the eighth room, about 100 ft. but preferably around the 12th room, which is about 150ft. The reception at a distance doesn't need to be great, since the connection to the internet thru DSL is only gonna be a 256k, and we just want the guests to be able to browse the internet and check email and stuff. I was wondering what the best router would be that would have this range. I have a cheap $20 2.4Ghz phone from walmart that picks up decent reception in about the 10th room down, and that's when the base has a couple more walls in between the phone and the base.

We're also gonna charge people a fee to be able to use internet connection. So we need to able to prevent access to the public completely unless they have paid. Is there a router(or a way to setup a winxp computer) that will allow us to manage users/passwords, so that when someone pays for the internet access, we add their name/password to the router, give them the password, then delete their password, when they leave. I've heard of some routers that can manage access by MAC address, maybe that might be an option? It doesn't need to anything extremely simple, since we only plan on having maybe 1 or 2 people a week that will use the internet connection.

btw, price is sorta an issue.

thx
 

JackMDS

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I do not think that a Wireless Cable/DSL Router is the thing to use in such a situation.

I would get a regular Router, and a good Access Point with a good external Antenna.

You can connect the Access Point to the Router using one long CAT5, and install the Access Point somewhere in the middle of the area.

The hardware would cost a little more (Router $40 + Access Point $90 + External Antenna $50) but it has a chance to work well.

Entry level hardware will not provide the capacity to use software for password scheme or similar control.

However if you have an Access point with MAC filtering you can control the logins. It is not as automatic, but it is doable.
 

22Admub

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The thing is, there's no place to put the access point in the middle(unless I can put it in the hot attic, I'm in georgia).

But are access points gonna be more powerful than a stand alone wireless router? I just figured that a wireless router is just a router and access point in one.
 

22Admub

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OK, I read through that, and it cleared up some of my confusion. But, from what I got out of it, it says that the main reason to use an access point over a wireless router, is that the access points tend to be more flexible. But I don't need flexibility, at all. I simply intend to use it as a gateway. And there's basically only one place that I can really put the router(there's no other place I can put electronics on the whole property, unless it's in the attic). I'm still not sure if the access point will have more range than the router.

I also have another question. I haven't gotten the dsl connection yet, and I was wondering how the connections will work. Is it gonna come out of the phone jack, then to the dsl modem, then to a router/computer/etc? and is the dsl modem connected via cat5 or what?
 

22Admub

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so do you think that there's a wireless router that will be able to handle the range that I need(about 100feet) goin through 2 walls? What specific models have the highest range?
 

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If you have cable TV in every room, and the cable company offers broadband, have you considered asking them about hooking it up to your existing cable TV wiring?
 

22Admub

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if we had cable internet available, I'd have gotten it by now, but unfortunately, all we have is dsl thru our local (possibly communist run) phone company. It's gonna cost us 70 bucks a month for 256kbit, and 90 for 512kbit, and that's bits, not bytes btw.
 

22Admub

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which router is known to have the best range? I couldn't find any opinions on google as to which router works best through a couple walls. ie, which router would most likely be able to go about 100 ft. and thru a couple walls(one of those walls will actually be a window, if that would help)
 

DCIndy

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I own a motel, and I'm looking to offer broadband internet access for our customers. I don't want to have to send wires to 22 rooms, so I'm gonna go with wireless. I have a few questions.

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A couple of things nobody has mentioned. Do you imagine that your guests will just happen to be traveling with the Wireless NIC card that your system will be compatable with? Or, do you intend to hand them a card when they pay the fee and then install the software (which means you'll be running around all the time playing Tech Support Guy.) ?

By the time you buy all this hardware it would have been cheaper to run CAT5 to those first 8 or 10 rooms. No software to install, DHCP supplied by your router and most folks will connect with no problems.
 

DCIndy

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I own a motel, and I'm looking to offer broadband internet access for our customers. I don't want to have to send wires to 22 rooms, so I'm gonna go with wireless. I have a few questions.

________________________

A couple of things nobody has mentioned. Do you imagine that your guests will just happen to be traveling with the Wireless NIC card that your system will be compatable with? Or, do you intend to hand them a card when they pay the fee and then install the software (which means you'll be running around all the time playing Tech Support Guy.) ?

By the time you buy all this hardware it would have been cheaper to run CAT5 to those first 8 or 10 rooms. No software to install, DHCP supplied by your router and most folks will connect with no problems.
 

DCIndy

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I own a motel, and I'm looking to offer broadband internet access for our customers. I don't want to have to send wires to 22 rooms, so I'm gonna go with wireless. I have a few questions.

________________________

A couple of things nobody has mentioned. Do you imagine that your guests will just happen to be traveling with the Wireless NIC card that your system will be compatable with? Or, do you intend to hand them a card when they pay the fee and then install the software (which means you'll be running around all the time playing Tech Support Guy.) ?

By the time you buy all this hardware it would have been cheaper to run CAT5 to those first 8 or 10 rooms. No software to install, DHCP supplied by your router and most folks will connect with no problems.
 

DCIndy

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Sorry for the duped reply, Was repeatedly getting a 404 error when I submitted this.
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I own a motel, and I'm looking to offer broadband internet access for our customers. I don't want to have to send wires to 22 rooms, so I'm gonna go with wireless. I have a few questions.

________________________

A couple of things nobody has mentioned. Do you imagine that your guests will just happen to be traveling with the Wireless NIC card that your system will be compatable with? Or, do you intend to hand them a card when they pay the fee and then install the software (which means you'll be running around all the time playing Tech Support Guy.) ?

By the time you buy all this hardware it would have been cheaper to run CAT5 to those first 8 or 10 rooms. No software to install, DHCP supplied by your router and most folks will connect with no problems.
 

birthofsorrow

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Ok, maybe you should think about doing this.

Get a linksys wireless router. Also, linksys makes a piggyback range booster for the wireless, that would be your best bet for your central setup.

I would buy a few wireless network cards and configure your router to only allow those mac address to be able to use the wireless network (this is very easy). Then just simply rent your customers the card.

i know someone who set something similar up in there motel and it worked very well.

I'll get links to the wireless router and range booster and post links for you.

thanks
mike
 

birthofsorrow

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Get the BEFW11S4 router

and the WSB24 signal booster for the router.

any cards will do the trick, but I would reccomend you get on egay and get some Dell truemobile 1150 cards

they have the orinoco gold chipset and they have really good range. You can pick them up on ebay for about 38 bucks plus shipping.

 
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