Wireless networking can kiss my ass *RANT - Keep this crap!!*

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: WarDemon666
Of course it is, but by the time you get through it, ill notice that youre trying to get in and once you get in, all youll be able to get is the interweb heheh

LMAO. You go on believing that I'm powerless to hack you when I'm on your LAN.

Tell you what, take a network security course or two when you graduate high school.

- M4H

 

[rh71]

dude it took my n00b @$$ 10 minutes to figure it out. 128bit wep, no SSID broadcasting, and MAC filtering with my netgear setup. Either your Linksys is wack or your DSL router hates you.

 

[InlineFive]

Sounds like you didn't specify an SSID. Wireless isn't for noobs, that's for sure.

And for the record I have two laptops on an 802.11g AES encrypted network working just fine.

 

[warcrow]

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Fck it. I will run 50+ feet of CAT5e, terminate it myself and be done with it.

My DSL router is also a 802.11a/g wireless router. I followed the instructions, created a 128-bit WEP key. Installed a Linksys 802.11g wireless NIC, attempted to configure it.

I got TWO networks but the one I wanted; MINE. I guess they were my neighbors. I found one guys' kid's sofball pics and another guys music. Big deal. I DIDN"T get MY network.

Fcuk it. Tomorrow, I return the wireless NIC and run the damn cable. What a bunch of crap.

I can configure a W2K3 Enterprise network for 1,000+ clients, complete w/DNS/DHCP/SAV/SUS/SMS and database sharing...but I couldn't get my own shiit to work!!! Fck it. WIRED is the way to go.

I already uninstalled the hardware and driver and boxed up the NIC.

This wireless crap seems to have two settings:

1. Wide open. EAsy to configure but you're wide open; i.e. my neighbors
2. Locked down. Safe as food in front of Mary Kate, but impossible for anyone, including me, to get to.:roll:

.......hrm, something tells me you're mad.

 

[WarDemon666]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: WarDemon666
Of course it is, but by the time you get through it, ill notice that youre trying to get in and once you get in, all youll be able to get is the interweb heheh

LMAO. You go on believing that I'm powerless to hack you when I'm on your LAN.

Tell you what, take a network security course or two when you graduate high school.

- M4H

I dont need to

you seem like a very informed person, but youll have trouble accessing my system, im almost 100% sure.

my system is soo secure right now...

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: warcrow

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Fck it. I will run 50+ feet of CAT5e, terminate it myself and be done with it.

My DSL router is also a 802.11a/g wireless router. I followed the instructions, created a 128-bit WEP key. Installed a Linksys 802.11g wireless NIC, attempted to configure it.

I got TWO networks but the one I wanted; MINE. I guess they were my neighbors. I found one guys' kid's sofball pics and another guys music. Big deal. I DIDN"T get MY network.

Fcuk it. Tomorrow, I return the wireless NIC and run the damn cable. What a bunch of crap.

I can configure a W2K3 Enterprise network for 1,000+ clients, complete w/DNS/DHCP/SAV/SUS/SMS and database sharing...but I couldn't get my own shiit to work!!! Fck it. WIRED is the way to go.

I already uninstalled the hardware and driver and boxed up the NIC.

This wireless crap seems to have two settings:

1. Wide open. EAsy to configure but you're wide open; i.e. my neighbors
2. Locked down. Safe as food in front of Mary Kate, but impossible for anyone, including me, to get to.:roll:

.......hrm, something tells me you're mad.

Something tells me he's MichaelD.

Y'know ... there's always the chance you got a DOA router.

- M4H

 

[sniperruff]

Originally posted by: PorBleemo
Sounds like you didn't specify an SSID. Wireless isn't for noobs, that's for sure.

hey im pretty much a software and definitely networking noob and i got it right.

 

[MichaelD]

Originally posted by: rh71
dude it took my n00b @$$ 10 minutes to figure it out. 128bit wep, no SSID broadcasting, and MAC filtering with my netgear setup. Either your Linksys is wack or your DSL router hates you.

Both, methinks. :roll: Either way, by this time tomorrow, there will be a 50ft CAT5e cable in place. Wireless KB/MS will fill out the bill. I was just trying to avoid running the cable.

 

[RbSX]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: RyanSengara

Originally posted by: MichaelD
Fck it. I will run 50+ feet of CAT5e, terminate it myself and be done with it.

My DSL router is also a 802.11a/g wireless router. I followed the instructions, created a 128-bit WEP key. Installed a Linksys 802.11g wireless NIC, attempted to configure it.

I got TWO networks but the one I wanted; MINE. I guess they were my neighbors. I found one guys' kid's sofball pics and another guys music. Big deal. I DIDN"T get MY network.

Fcuk it. Tomorrow, I return the wireless NIC and run the damn cable. What a bunch of crap.

I can configure a W2K3 Enterprise network for 1,000+ clients, complete w/DNS/DHCP/SAV/SUS/SMS and database sharing...but I couldn't get my own shiit to work!!! Fck it. WIRED is the way to go.

I already uninstalled the hardware and driver and boxed up the NIC.

This wireless crap seems to have two settings:

1. Wide open. EAsy to configure but you're wide open; i.e. my neighbors
2. Locked down. Safe as food in front of Mary Kate, but impossible for anyone, including me, to get to.:roll:

One thing that instructions don't tell you to do is turn on the wireless. By default it isn't on. You have to go into the control panel for the router and turn it on.

First thing I did.

Interesting. If it's any consolation, i had trouble setting mine up too.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
M4H must show ATOT how large his e-penis is. I wait for a reply, mister

I don't recall posting a 3DMark score ...

- M4H

haha, but what about the dramatic, Jason Bournesque, "Turn around. I'm on your network. Verry hax0r

 

[rh71]

Originally posted by: MichaelD

Originally posted by: rh71
dude it took my n00b @$$ 10 minutes to figure it out. 128bit wep, no SSID broadcasting, and MAC filtering with my netgear setup. Either your Linksys is wack or your DSL router hates you.

Both, methinks. :roll: Either way, by this time tomorrow, there will be a 50ft CAT5e cable in place. Wireless KB/MS will fill out the bill. I was just trying to avoid running the cable.

My house has jacks/CAT5 throughout the rooms, but when I switched to wireless, it was such a "free" feeling. I think you should see about getting support for your DSL router and its wireless settings.

Make sure you try 1 step at a time... completely open and broadcasting.. see if you get a signal... then tighten the clamp from there.

 

[MercenaryForHire]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
M4H must show ATOT how large his e-penis is. I wait for a reply, mister

I don't recall posting a 3DMark score ...

- M4H

haha, but what about the dramatic, Jason Bournesque, "Turn around. I'm on your network. Verry hax0r

Yeah, that would be amusing.

This message brought to you by WarDemon666's hacked AP.

- M4H

 

[Redviffer]

I've set up mine fairly easy, except for one spot that keeps giving me problems. I'm going to move that computer I think, tired of dealing with it. I would run wire but it's not my house.

 

[WarDemon666]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
M4H must show ATOT how large his e-penis is. I wait for a reply, mister

I don't recall posting a 3DMark score ...

- M4H

haha, but what about the dramatic, Jason Bournesque, "Turn around. I'm on your network. Verry hax0r

Yeah, that would be amusing.

This message brought to you by WarDemon666's hacked AP.

- M4H

you wish

Funny though, no doubt about that

 

[Nebor]

Wireless networking is crap even when it's fully set up. Set up is a bitch though. Then you have to deal with all the crap that causes it to drop the signal.

 

[Kishan]

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
M4H must show ATOT how large his e-penis is. I wait for a reply, mister

I don't recall posting a 3DMark score ...

- M4H

haha, but what about the dramatic, Jason Bournesque, "Turn around. I'm on your network. Verry hax0r

Yeah, that would be amusing.

This message brought to you by WarDemon666's hacked AP.

- M4H

lol-so clever, yet so original. You definitely bring life into this forum. Cheers friend!

 

[WarDemon666]

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316

Originally posted by: MercenaryForHire

Originally posted by: KPSHAH316
M4H must show ATOT how large his e-penis is. I wait for a reply, mister

I don't recall posting a 3DMark score ...

- M4H

haha, but what about the dramatic, Jason Bournesque, "Turn around. I'm on your network. Verry hax0r

Yeah, that would be amusing.

This message brought to you by WarDemon666's hacked AP.

- M4H

lol-so clever, yet so original. You definitely bring life into this forum. Cheers friend!

true!

 

[nsafreak]

Really, screw using WEP and just disable broadcasting and enable MAC address filtering. Basically have it setup so certain MAC addresses can access the wireless network. WEP in truth is a joke, only takes a few minutes to crack so sometimes it really isn't worth it.

 

[Abhi]

Nice rant

 

[thomsbrain]

i felt the same way trying to get wireless going at my place. took me two routers and about 4 hours and in the end i don't know what i did to make it work but i'm not going to touch ANYTHING because i know i'll never get it going again.

 

[faZZter]

Originally posted by: nsafreak
Really, screw using WEP and just disable broadcasting and enable MAC address filtering. Basically have it setup so certain MAC addresses can access the wireless network. WEP in truth is a joke, only takes a few minutes to crack so sometimes it really isn't worth it.

MAC addresses can be spoofed too.......

 

[WarDemon666]

Originally posted by: nsafreak
Really, screw using WEP and just disable broadcasting and enable MAC address filtering. Basically have it setup so certain MAC addresses can access the wireless network. WEP in truth is a joke, only takes a few minutes to crack so sometimes it really isn't worth it.

WEP doesn't encrypt Layer 2 traffic. Number of packets needed to get a MAC address - one. - M4H

and when you disable brodcasting you still know theres an AP, not very hard to sniff some packets and try to get through. You need a combination of everything, imo

 

[SandInMyShoes]

Without constant monitoring, it is impossible to secure a network which is running a device with the 802.11b MAC.

 

[Confused]

Your problem is you bought Linksys.

I've installed/configured loads of wireless kit, Linksys/Netgear/D-Link have given me nothing but problems. I've also set up US Robotics, without ANY problems. Any wireless kit I buy is USR now.


Edit: Just double-check, when entering the WEP details on the PC, you did make sure the Encryption type (Open/Shared) were the same? I've seen some wireless clients trying to default back to Open, when it should be Shared.


Confused

 

[TreyRandom]

Just thought I'd mention to those who do not already know... 128-bit WEP encryption is JUST as insecure as 64-bit WEP encryption. Why?

WEP encryption uses a key and an Initialization Vector (IV). 64-bit WEP uses a 40-bit key and a 24-bit IV. 128-bit WEP uses a 104-bit key and a 24-bit IV. So, you see, they both use a 24-bit IV.

The IV is a one-up generated value that is unique to each packet and is sent in the clear. And, because there are only 16,777,216 possible IV values, they will eventually be reused.

The problem occurs when two packets with the same IV value are captured. When this happens, an attacker can easily decipher the key - regardless of whether it is a 40-bit or 104-bit key. As alluded to earlier, IV reuse occurs quickly with increased network use... Send 17 million packets, and a match WILL be made.

What makes matters worse is that when many wireless cards are reinitialized (upon reboot, etc.), the IV is reset to "0" (and the one-up system begins again)... thereby making it easier to capture a duplicate IV. Kill the electricity (or wait for a reboot), then kill the electricity again (or wait for another reboot)... BAM! Instant IV duplication - and the key falls out.

After the key has been discovered, an attacker can then decrypt or spoof packets... and the target will be unaware until an active attack is launched.

M4H ain't just measuring his e-penis, folks. In this instance, he speaks the truth.